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  • Apple design chief Jony Ive to depart later this year, create new studio with Apple as cli...

    kestral said:
    I see all these tech writers out there praising John Gruber’s post about this. I don’t see what’s so great about it. It’s quite nasty, especially the part where he complains about the FT using the title “Sir”. Not professional at all.
    John Gruber is the biggest Apple sycophant out there. The fact that he finally said something "nasty" is huge.
    Nah Gruber has been less and less of a fanboy in recent years. My guess along with perhaps some sincere complaints he was sick of being considered a sycophant and so decided to become more critical. The fact he re-tweeted Nilay Patel praising his DF post says everting about who the audience for that piece was.
    cornchip
  • Apple design chief Jony Ive to depart later this year, create new studio with Apple as cli...

    kamilton said:
    spice-boy said:
    No matter how great many of the Ive era designs have been.... I am looking forward to see what the next generation of designers will do beyond the strict minimalist Ive aesthetic.  
    Me too!  The Ive fixation on thin has hampered MBP design.  My hunch is the new Mac Pro is the first indication of post-Ive design. I returned a new 13” MBP last week.  Going to wait another year. 

    Jony had a hell of a run, but AAPL needs a new design ethos 
    And yet Ive was one of the narrators in the Mac Pro video posted on Apple’s website. Plus he was the one in the hands on room showing it off to Tim Cook. 



    As far as the thinness obsession, most Windows laptops (outside of gaming devices) are as thin as any Apple laptop. I don’t think it’s an Apple obsession but a consumer desire for products that are lighter and more portable. And something marketing likes to push.

    I’d also say this is all bit of a Rorschach test. For those who aren’t Ive fans if Apple does something they like then they’ll assume he had no involvement. If Apple does something they hate then the assumption will be it’s a leftover from the Ive days.
    cornchipmacplusplus
  • Apple design chief Jony Ive to depart later this year, create new studio with Apple as cli...

    This is the best thing to happen to Apple.

    To the news of "Jony Ive leaves Apple", I can only add "Finally!"

    He is taking Marc Newsom with him - which indicates that Jony's design mistakes have finally prompted Tim Cook to cut that relationship, and go with a new group (notably the Pro Design group).

    Apple is in better hands with Jony Ive, finally!
    Right except this Pro Design Group was, and still remains inside hardware engineering. John Ternus, the guy who showed off the Mac Pro at WWDC is part of hardware engineering. The two groups that reported up through Ive are now reporting to Jeff Williams (future Apple CEO in my opinion) not hardware or software engineering.
    Yes. That's exactly what I'm thinking. That's why the heads of the Human Interface Design and Industrial Design are now answering to Williams and not Cook is suspect. Ive used to answer to the CEO directly but not anymore. This means Cook just handed off a 'hot potato' to Williams by saying ' Okay Williams. It's your turn now. I got one foot out the door and getting ready '. 

    I smell another huge exit. 

    EDIT: to be honest, I would've like Craig to be CEO. 
    It depends what one wants the CEO role to be. I still think Jeff is the one being groomed. But if Apple is moving away from hardware towards a software services business then maybe the operations guy isn’t the right one to take over. Just so long as it’s not Eddy Cue. 
    cornchip
  • Apple design chief Jony Ive to depart later this year, create new studio with Apple as cli...

    tmay said:
    AI_lias said:
    Good riddance. Maybe the ports will come back now, and better keyboards, upgradeability, repairability, and other common sense things that left lately. Sounds funny how he was the top design officer, but people think he shouldn’t be held accountable for all design decisions. 

    Apple was already getting rid of upgradeability when Steve Jobs was still around. Decisions on upgradeability, ports etc. don’t just come from designers. Even the whole so-called obsession with thinness. Let’s not forget it was Steve Jobs who announced the MacBook Air by pulling it out of a Manila envelope and spent most of the intro talking about how thin it was. Oh and as far as repairability and upgradeability...go read an iFixit review of a Microsoft Surface product. They get lower scores than Apple products. Yet for some reason Microsoft doesn’t get nearly the grief Apple does.
    Phil Schiller is Apple's Completely Invisible Senior Vice President, apparently. 

    The fact that most of the commenters are complaining about marketing, not Industrial Design, and yet blaming Ive for all errors and omissions, is telling. 
    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, I think Phil Schiller is the most powerful person at Apple. I’d argue very few decisions get made without his approval. 
    cornchipmacplusplus
  • Editorial: Apple is neither doomed nor saved now that Jony Ive has moved on

    McJobs said:
    Jonathan is not walking away. He was pushed. The runway is now clear for Scott Forstall return.
    Scott Forstall is not a hardware designer. And Apple has a software chief.
    MacQc