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MikeFS said:

An all glass iPhone is not my dream.

CheeseFreeze said:

ergonomics and tech need to be fixed:
- current design hurts your wrist over time
- glass-like material feels gross 
- you cannot press two buttons at the same time
- in fact you don’t feel buttons at all
- oh and no scroll wheel. You have to slide your finger over glass with zero tactile feedback 
- you can’t right click without hovering the finger t
- poll rate stinks
- DPI stinks
- USB connector in a weird spot.

The entire product in 2024 is a joke.

• Ergonomics is an individual issue. Some designs are universally bad but there are many designs that work for many people and don't work for many others. I've used other mice that don't work for me but work well for others.
• Personally never had an issue with the smooth surface. No different than an iPad or track pad but again, this is a matter of individual taste.
• What software do you use that requires you to push both buttons at once? (serious question) I've never encountered that so I'm guessing it's rather rare but if you have such software then the MM is definitely not for you.
• No buttons was an issue for me at first. I simply learned to lift my index finger slightly when clicking the right 'button.' For me this took bit of learning and now I never notice it.
• I have to log in to a virtual Citrix environment for work and use PC programs via a server. For these uses the scroll wheel is clearly better. For everything else (i.e. actual Mac apps) I've found I much prefer the wheel-less scrolling on the Magic Mouse. 
• I've never had an issue with the poll rate but I suspect that is something that they are looking at updating. You're essentially complaining that the device needs an update in response to an article talking about a pending update. 
  
• Agree that the USB connector location is an inexcusable design blunder. 

AppleZulu said:

tiredskills said:

AppleZulu said:

tiredskills said:

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MplsP said:

foregoneconclusion said:

tiredskills said:

foregoneconclusion said:

The reason the charging port is on the bottom is due to the original removable battery option. The charging port is in the same location as the latch for the removable battery cover. That allowed Apple to save $$ by keeping the industrial design almost identical between the two different versions. 

That's ok then.  I'm perfectly happy to accept suboptimal design if it contributes to Apple's bottom line.

It would have been suboptimal design without the fast charging capability. But since it could charge for the work day in five minutes, keeping the internal design arrangement almost identical to the removable battery version makes more sense than spending time/money on giving the end user five minutes of tethered work time. 

Ah, the same old, tired “it’s not THAT much of an inconvenience” excuse. The people making it are almost as tired as the excuse is. 

The picture in the article shows just how ridiculous the design is. I was again reminded of the absurdity when I got an alert that the battery on my Magic Keyboard was low. I simply plugged it in and kept working. I suppose what I should have done is turned it upside down and gone to do something else which I must have needed to do anyway while it charged?

The current design keeps people from leaving it plugged in and using it as a wired mouse. Is aesthetics a reason? Maybe.

The real reason is that this is Apple, and they would inevitably have to defend themselves against a class action lawsuit if they designed it the way you want it, because leaving it plugged in would result in wear and damage to the cable and port from repetitive (mis)use as a wired mouse. It wouldn't matter if they plastered warnings all over the place not to use it while it's plugged in. The lawsuit would claim that it was clearly designed so that you could use it while plugged in, knowing that the eventual damage from an intentionally faulty design would result in sales of more replacement cables and mice.

Put the port on the bottom, and while there's lots of truly absurdist bellyaching about it, there are no class action lawsuits. It's a wireless mouse. It's insanely easy to charge it so you can use it wirelessly.

No evidence whatsoever to suggest this would happen.  Completely made up nonsense with little to nothing by way of precedent.  Stop making excuses.

No evidence? Among other things, Apple just paid out on a class-action lawsuit that literally penalized them for extending the usability of older iPhones by preventing them from crashing.

Remember "battery gate"? All lithium batteries become weaker over time. It's a fact. It's physics. It's also a fact that smartphones will crash if the processor demands more peak power than an older, degraded battery can produce in a given time. Apple wrote iOS to adapt in those cases, instead slowing the processor in order to spread out (and thus lower) peak power demand on the battery over time, thereby allowing functions to be carried out, if a bit more slowly, instead of letting the phone simply crash and shut down. While it's true that a phone that gets slower and slower may motivate a user to eventually spend the money to replace it with a newer device, it's also true that a a phone that starts crashing and shutting down will motivate a user to much more quickly replace it with a newer device, because it's not just slow, it's unusable. Apple was actually decreasing demand for iPhone upgrades by enabling older devices to last longer, but the class action lawyers twisted that around, ignoring the facts and creating a narrative that Apple was causing older phones to slow down for no reason in order to promote a planned obsolescence scheme. That's a lie, but it was eventually cheaper for Apple to settle the suit rather than letting it drag out, with that lie continuing to be featured in the public square, and continuing to damage Apple's reputation. 

They did all this without telling users, or offering them any control over their phone's behaviour.  That's why they were sued.  Completely different from your ridiculous prophecy.

That’s not the sort of OS feature that usually gets a press release. Preventing system crashes is generally filed generically under “system improvements” or “bug fix.”  And what sort of user control would you expect for the battery issue? A dialog box that says “Oof! That’s a tough one for your old battery! How would you prefer to handle it? [Temporary slowdown] or [System crash]”

You’re just proving my point. The twisted, litigious response in “battery gate” is a great predictor for how people would respond if Apple put a charging port on the front of the mouse. In some number of cases of misuse of the device as an always-wired mouse would lead to damage to the charging port, people would blame Apple for bad design and sue them for the damage.