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charlesn said:

avon b7 said:

charlesn said:

I really wish Apple would release data on how many people are actually using its self-repair options. Would love to know what tiny fraction of 1% all of this "right to repair" legislation is designed to serve, although I'm sure the Radio Shack and Heathkit diaspora are thrilled with it. Gosh, maybe we should force Apple to provide the parts, tools and instructions so I can build my own iPhone? No surprise that the EU, which leads the world in tech regulation, badly lags the U.S. and Asia when it comes to tech manufacturing and innovation. 

If you tie this in with the Batteries Directive (user replaceable batteries), perhaps even more people will hang onto their phones for longer. 

Sealing phones with glue was always a highly debatable move. 

Phones only really need to be splashproof and Apple has never made waterproofing a warranty option. Nano coatings have been around for years. 

Any of the millions of people who've accidentally submerged their iPhones in water with no resulting damage since they earned an IP67 rating in 2016--thanks to drops into a sink, tub, pool, lake or whatever--would beg to disagree that phones only need to be splashproof. The result of splashpoof-only phones would be that any accidental submersions would mean throwing the phone away because repairs would likely be too costly. There is no data to support the idea that people are replacing their iPhones because they don't want to pay Apple $89 or $99--or significantly less to 3rd party repair shops--for a new battery that would give them years more use out of a phone that's presumably doing all they need it to do. The real driver of upgrades for people who might not ordinarily do so are the mobile carriers offering "free iPhones" with any trade-in, as long as you sign a service contract for X years. 

charlesn said:

I really wish Apple would release data on how many people are actually using its self-repair options. Would love to know what tiny fraction of 1% all of this "right to repair" legislation is designed to serve. 

While it would be nice to know, Apple certainly knew that nobody (in the general sense) cares about repairing phones (or computers for that matter) and that allowed them to use manufacturing methods that resulted in more reliable and less expensive phones*.  Everybody wins, except for that fraction you mentioned.

Apple's net profit percentage is practically a constant.  If they are forced to use more expensive manufacturing techniques, you can be sure you'll pay for it.

* less expensive: less raw materials, less energy, less environmental impact.  Apple's use of glue has reduced the environmental impact of iPhones more than the right to repair programs ever will.

mariowinco said:

I’ve bought just one pair of AirPods and then I’m waiting until they have replaceable batteries.
I’m in the process of throwing the third Apple keypad for my iPad Pro. 

I simply cannot understand two things 
- why Apple is “green” something 
- how certain consumers are ok with all the electric waste that Apple devices create

I remember the times when buying Apple was the more ecological and economical choice …

sconosciuto said:

godofbiscuitssf said:

mark fearing said:

Okay...lots of weird things. 3 things - 

1- can a president just decide not to enforce a law? One where the stated reason is based on implied foreign manipulation?

2- The Dem's were idiots for passing this in the first place. The nature of the stated concerns are obviously ridiculous.

3- I don't have a 3 I guess...but this is really silly.

Yeah, blame the Dems.  Who instigated it?

“the Dems” - which includes Joe Biden - gave into sinophobia and helped make it a law.