muthuk_vanalingam

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

Here's some more "oxymorons" I've noticed from the iKnockoff crowd:

"Apple is too expensive"
But criticizes Apple for not adding more to the XR. Like how it needs a 1080p screen(for some reason), OLED etc. which would drive the price much higher.

Ostrich and sand??? With the benefit of hindsight, it is now easy to figure out that Apple got it wrong with respect to features and pricing of Xr. Xr is supposed to be the successor to iPhone 8 plus, but it was a side grade (design and SoC upgraded, display and camera downgraded), not a proper upgrade. It still would have been fine if Apple had priced it accordingly. But that didn't happen, hence Apple trying hard with promotional offers to increase sales. And revenue shortage purely due to lack of iphone sales. To even deny these basic facts is to keep the head firmly in the sand like an ostrich. 

"Not a proper upgrade"

So you're asking for more? iPhone XR starting at $899? Better idea?

iPhone XR is the most popular iPhone right now(according to APPLE not the Verge or some fat youtuber). So not sure why you're denying the facts while giving your opinions?

Am I asking for more? Yes. For an additional $150? No, thanks. It should have had those for $750 to begin with. I am sure you will say that "people like me who ask more from Apple have a wrong entitled mindset" and Apple was spot on with features and pricing for Xr. This is where the real problem lie. Apple and its shareholders might have an mindset that Apple is entitled to 38% margin, even in a "matured" smartphone market. But ordinary customers seem to disagree with that entitlement in large numbers.

Disagree with what I say and need proof??? Don't look anywhere beyond last quarter original/revised guidelines, Apple CEO's letter to investors, unusual heavy promotions this year which was NOT seen in previous years. 

iPhone XR outsold the other X models.

So the customers have spoken. If you ran Apple, guidance would have been much worse since you believe Apple should have erased most of their XR profit.

"iPhone 5c is a failure" deja vu?

"Xr outsold the other X models" - It is pure PR talk, which doesn't mean much. With its lower price compared to Xs and Xs Max, It was obvious from the beginning that Xr would outsell Xs and Xs Max. That is besides the point. The key questions are:

1. What was the expected total number of Xr units that Apple expected to sell during the Oct-2018 to Dec-2018 quarter?

2. Did it meet those Apple's own expectations (Not some random analysts or internet blogger's expectations)????

Customers have spoken? Really? Then, why did Apple miss "its own guidance"????

AppleExposed said:

muthuk_vanalingam said:

AppleExposed said:

Here's some more "oxymorons" I've noticed from the iKnockoff crowd:

"Apple is too expensive"
But criticizes Apple for not adding more to the XR. Like how it needs a 1080p screen(for some reason), OLED etc. which would drive the price much higher.

Ostrich and sand??? With the benefit of hindsight, it is now easy to figure out that Apple got it wrong with respect to features and pricing of Xr. Xr is supposed to be the successor to iPhone 8 plus, but it was a side grade (design and SoC upgraded, display and camera downgraded), not a proper upgrade. It still would have been fine if Apple had priced it accordingly. But that didn't happen, hence Apple trying hard with promotional offers to increase sales. And revenue shortage purely due to lack of iphone sales. To even deny these basic facts is to keep the head firmly in the sand like an ostrich. 

"Not a proper upgrade"

So you're asking for more? iPhone XR starting at $899? Better idea?

iPhone XR is the most popular iPhone right now(according to APPLE not the Verge or some fat youtuber). So not sure why you're denying the facts while giving your opinions?

StrangeDays said:

Miss China Girl said:

MplsP said:

StrangeDays said:

davgreg said:

This could have all been avoided had Apple designed the phone with user replaceable batteries.

One question: were iPads ever involved with the problem?

You’re in a dream world, man. Removable batteries haven’t ever been part of the iPhone, the most popular consumer product in history, and will never come to it.

Nor was the problem related to being non-removable. Batteries age, and after a certain age they need to be replaced. You can have the battery replaced on any iPhone, I’ve done it myself. Things require maintenance...non-story.

Well, He's right, Apple could have designed the iPhone that way, but that would have involved a bunch of other engineering/design compromises for something that you typically only have to do once every 3 years or so. Apple showed long ago that a user-replaceable battery isn't high on people's list. 

How many smartphones have user replaceable batteries, anyway? I don't think very many do - for exactly the same reasons iPhones don't.

Actually, most Android phones do have user replaceable batteries.

Citation? The flagships sure don't.

clarker99 said:

saltyzip said:

gmgravytrain said:

It's unlikely Apple will ever stand a chance in India within the next five years. The way Apple keeps jacking up iPhone prices, I don't see how anyone in that country can afford or even want to buy an iPhone when they have so many less expensive Android smartphones to choose from. The Apple ecosystem is probably non-existent in India because there likely aren't many Mac desktops or laptops being sold in the country. I've already faced the fact that Apple will not make any headway in any of the BRIC nations. Apple basically said to all the Android manufacturers, "These countries are completely yours to take 98% market share to our 2%." That's a really discouraging thing for Apple shareholders to have to hear. It's a crushing defeat by all Android manufacturers. Four huge countries and Apple can't even get a teeny, tiny worth of a grip in terms of market percentage. It's no wonder Wall Street has given Apple such a kick in the nuts for the last week or so. Now, Apple has to be the only tech company struggling to make share gains while the FANGS and Microsoft are freaking knocking it out of the ballpark.

I always hear about reversals of fortunes and now Apple is on the negatively receiving end of said reversal. Everyone is always happy to see Apple stock end up in the toilet and now they're all having a good laugh at the former trillion-dollar company. They were all sure it wouldn't last for Apple and now they're right. I'm not actually worried as long as I'm receiving my fine Apple dividends. It just kind of hurts how Apple is being left out in the cold while the rest of the tech stocks are burning hot.  Only Apple has to worry about things like peak iPhone every single quarter.  There hasn't been anything close to an iPhone 'supercycle' in the past few years, so why do some people keep talking about it happening.

The party's over... dum-de-dum-dum. (sung in a wistful voice)

Blame Tim Cook and the rest of the apple board who aren't interested in anyone who hasn't got a big bank balance, they aren't interested in the "junk market" so they said.

Android is the phone of the people, just as Toyota  is the king of cars worldwide. Not everyone has to drive around in a mercedes to get from a to b.

Toyota actually makes a profit. The only Android vendor that makes any kind of profit is Samsung.

It is also fun to pretend that High-end Android devices are not ‘expensive’. The Mate20 is launching in Canada for $1300, the Note 9 is $1249. So, much more affordable!  These are not the devices being sold in India. Cheap sub-$200 phones probably are the most popular and no one is making profit on those.

Good for One Plus but let’s see who the flavor of the week Android vendor of choice is in a couple years. A couple years ago Samsung was Android vendor of choice with no other really good option.  Time will tell.

ericthehalfbee said:

I’m not sure who mentioned it, but a comment was recently made that 75% of App Store revenues were games, therefore they should be used to test performance. The implication is, obviously, that most people don’t do work on their iOS devices and people mostly played games, thus trying to undermine the requirements for fast processors to run powerful Apps.

Last year Adobe had revenues of $7 billion. Autodesk had revenues of $2 billion. Two companies that make expensive, complex software used by professionals.

Activision/Blizzard had revenues of $51 billion. Should I then claim PCs are only used to play games because game revenues vastly outpaced revenues of professional applications?

Gaming is popular and generates a LOT of revenue. You can’t draw conclusions about what people do with their devices just because gaming companies make lots of money.

GG mentioned it. But never mind. Your responses to GG and Morgle in this thread (despite your own incitement) are less than adequate. The examples provided by GG and Morgle are VALID, because those are the ones which are COMMONLY used. If you want to choose a NICHE application for comparison, then you have to "admit" that ALL the ADDITIONAL power that Apple's A series processors is useful for a small set of NICHE users ONLY.

The specific App examples that you gave in one of your comments (video encoding, complex spreadsheet, audio mixing etc) would have come up in the TOP 10 most APPS used list if they are used by "majority" of the users. They are NOT used by majority of the people (I am talking about iPhone users only), hence they are not coming up in the TOP 10 or 100 most frequently used Apps.

Either you have to admit the A series processors performance has reached a "niche" category - much like 18 core Xeon processors in the iMac Pro that is needed only by a small sub segment of Mac owners Vs iMacs with i5/i7 (in mobile terms, the snapdragons and exynos would fit that category) satisfying the needs of common people. Is an 18 core Xeon processor much more powerful than quad core i7? Of course, Yes. Does everyone NEED it? Absolutely NO. Only a small set of niche users need that 18 core Xeon processor.

OR

prove that it is useful for "generic" users with "generic" App/Game examples.