nicholfd

muthuk_vanalingam said:

nicholfd said:

charlesn said:

Wow. This one is a head scratcher for me. I can't ever remember a tech product failing in the market and then being brought back shortly after in essentially identical form.  

Uh - maybe because it didn't fail?

Apple never made any statements about poor sells, or how it did in the market.  Apple never made any statements about why the 1st gen was discontinued.

So what do you base your "failing in the market" statement on?  Hopefully not ANALyst who pull shit out of their ass... 

PS - we have 8 x 1st gen HomePods.

Hang on - Why would ANY company "discontinue" a product IF it had succeeded in the market place????

Component availability, production capacity availability, etc.  COVID was happening...

Or, new model, but same issues as above to get it to market...

Plenty of reasons other than "failing in the market".

And none of us really know why, because Apple generally doesn't share that type of information.

charlesn said:

Wow. This one is a head scratcher for me. I can't ever remember a tech product failing in the market and then being brought back shortly after in essentially identical form.  

Uh - maybe because it didn't fail?

Apple never made any statements about poor sells, or how it did in the market.  Apple never made any statements about why the 1st gen was discontinued.

So what do you base your "failing in the market" statement on?  Hopefully not ANALyst who pull shit out of their ass... 

PS - we have 8 x 1st gen HomePods.

keithw said:

Not to be ungrateful, but where are the Mac Studio updates with the M2 Pro, Max and Ultra options?

Remember the cadence of the M1 series?  Same for the M2 series.  First plain M2 released.  Then M2 Pro & M2 Max released.  Then, later M2 Ultra released.  

When the M2 Ultra chip is ready, then you'll see an updated Mac Studio model.

22july2013 said:

nicholfd said:

22july2013 said:

bloggerblog said:

or it just records directly to iCloud like other cameras?

Name a single camera that records to Apple's iCloud. All the cameras that I found record to proprietary clouds, mostly in China.

Every HomeKit Secure Video camera records to iCloud.  I personally have 2 x models of Eufy cameras that support HSV.  I did not user their app & do not need to.  They are configured for HomeKit Secure Video only.  I also know they do not record anywhere except to HomeKit - they are blocked/monitored at my firewall (same for all my other cameras).  HSV records through the "active" HomeKit hub (HomePod original, Apple TV, iPad, etc.).  The HomeKit hub manages encrypting the video & sending it up to iCloud.

HomeKit Secure Video does NOT take up any of your iCloud storage. Apple treats it differently. You probably know that.

And when you say you are using a "HomeKit hub", I presume you are referring to the "Eufy HomeBase2 base station", right? If you watch the video in the link in my previous post, you may learn how that base station bypasses HomeKit Secure Video security features, and how the hub directly communicates with servers back in China.

You said your cameras are "blocked at your firewall", which isn't the whole solution, because you also have to block all traffic from your HomeBase2 (which processes your video) to the internet. if you watch the video in the link above, you'll see why that can't be done.

iCloud storage and counting against your limit was not part of the discussion, until you mentioned it now.  I am aware it does not count toward the storage limit.

You presume incorrectly.  I'm referring to the Apple device that is acting as the current "controlling" HomeKit hub in the house.  We have multiple HomePods & Apple TVs.  Many are listed as hubs (may not be the correct term) in the Home app.  Only one is the current, controlling HomeKit hub.  THAT device manages the video from the camera, encrypting it, and uploading it to iCloud.

And regarding the cameras I do have, that requires the HomeBase2, it is the HomeBase2 that is blocked/monitored at the firewall.  The HomeBase2 does not upload any video from my cameras to the internet.

22july2013 said:

bloggerblog said:

or it just records directly to iCloud like other cameras?

Name a single camera that records to Apple's iCloud. All the cameras that I found record to proprietary clouds, mostly in China.

Every HomeKit Secure Video camera records to iCloud.  I personally have 2 x models of Eufy cameras that support HSV.  I did not user their app & do not need to.  They are configured for HomeKit Secure Video only.  I also know they do not record anywhere except to HomeKit - they are blocked/monitored at my firewall (same for all my other cameras).  HSV records through the "active" HomeKit hub (HomePod original, Apple TV, iPad, etc.).  The HomeKit hub manages encrypting the video & sending it up to iCloud.