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The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient
TextBladeDenied said:The most gracious assessment is that they are blatant liars who scammed customers into giving them money so they could attempt to develop a product which they have been unable to complete for 4 years. This is not a new trick. They simply could not get investors, so they scammed customers to fund development. They claim they do not need the customer money to continue this facade of finishing and releasing a functioning product, yet they keep the money and vigorously defend any assertion that they are unethical to hold the money without releasing the product. Kahuna gets very agitated whenever the money is mentioned, probably because he is living off it.
It does not matter how many words you throw at facts, the actions of Waytools are apparent. 4 years of evidence assures us no one will never receive a working product from this company in exchange for money. Ignore them, and ignore the rants of their obnoxious spokespeople Kahuna and Colin.Waytools has not objected to these indisputable facts: They collected money from (they claim) thousands of customers for a product that was declared ready to ship in 2015.
Well, they did collect the money. And they THOUGHT they would ship in 2015. So?You can quibble about the definition of a 'lie' until you drop dead, but nobody aware of or involved in this debacle who is not a paid shill like Kahuna or Colin believes that Waytools has behaved transparently, or ethically, or truthfully.
In short, anyone who disagrees is lying. Wow. So, what have I been paid? You can't say with a TB because I paid for that. In fact, it is worth pointing out the inconsistencies of criticism. You see, about all you can say is I got the TB, but we've had plenty of critics make fun of us for working for nothing. So I guess those critics lied.Kahuna gets very agitated whenever the money is mentioned, probably because he is living off itYou sure like making stuff up. Let me be very clear, I don't get paid by WayTools. I get paid retirement from my original work teaching, I get paid social security, and I get a tiny bit of money from part time work which I really just do to stay active in the community.
I also happen to be the foremost expert in the entire world about where my money comes from. So let me know when you can show otherwise, rather than just making up crap because you're mad. -
The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient
My usage is mostly with my Desktop and occasionally with my iPhone.This would have been the same even when I used a MacBook since my typical arrangement was the desktop on the desk, but whatever wireless keyboard I had at the time would be on my lap so I could just lean back in my chair and type away. I very rarely used the MacBook keyboard except on trips where carrying the big wireless keyboards was not very practical. Which, of course, isn't the case with the TB. -
The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient
arkorott said:I agree that no one outside WT knows the complete picture on existing bug. But TREG testers clearly do know more than enough to judge if the current product meets the expectations you had when you ordered. And I don't believe any of you have recently (ever?) reported anything to the contrary. Would you or any tester prefer to give up your test unit and wait with the rest of us for the new firmware? If not, why should the rest of us have to wait?Maybe I need to address this a bit further.I don't think it is a matter of whether or not it fits my expectations. That only applies to whether I'm satisfied with it - which doesn't equate to meaning it should ship to everyone.
But if you want my answer to my expectations, no, it didn't fit when I first got it. Sure, I liked so many things about it that I was willing to put up with problems, but some of those problems were huge to the point I needed a replacement. Other times they were just annoying and maybe, if the problems stayed at that level, my willingness to accept them may have reversed over time.
Waytools can handle the relatively small number of testers via phone calls and replacements - it's one reason we have TREG and not GR yet. But if they had shipped to everyone, it would have been a disaster. They wouldn't have time to deal with everyone, nor should they be expected to survive while replacing vast numbers of keyboards, not to mention the terrible publicity as those with problems (and those are the people who would speak publicly the most) complain.
While lots of people may be mad about communication, etc, I think that is minor to what could happen if they send out a product like we started with.
Now, I know, it has gotten much better. But, just for the record, I've noticed the measurement for almost everyone complaining about GR is that "now" it should be good enough. And by "now" I not referring to today - but whatever "now" was at every moment for the past 4 years. While they could be correct this time (or not), it sure wasn't correct back many times in the past. Yet, at least based on those I've heard from, we all liked our devices.
Looking at it another way, maybe even WT thinks the present version is "good enough" (I don't know, of course). But they still know there will be problems come up with new customers that they need to fix. Lack of free memory makes that very hard to do and, with all the code that has to be changed each time to make room, every fix may well create a new problem. So I have no difficulty understanding that they may feel it is best to make one big rewrite, test it in house with their automated test equipment as well as their own people and only when they have it back up to the level of the old version, send it out to treg to make sure.
I also have no difficulty seeing the view of those who just think it would me best to ship now anyway. But it isn't their call to make. It isn't their risk if their preference doesn't work out for the company.I can say it would be nice if we got a big update on what is happening though! -
The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient
one-off said:If the support burden becomes too much, slow down deliveries until the new firmware is ready or the support load is managed. By all accounts, the existing firmware exceeds all reasonable expectations we had for the original product.I believe the damage Waytools is doing to their reputation by continuing to take customer money for new orders and continuing to miss delivery estimates, for customers who have been waiting for 4 years is far greater than any damage they would incur by beginning to ship the existing product now to the oldest customers.However, while I don't happen to agree with some of your views, I think you presented them in a reasonable manner. -
The TextBlade keyboard is superb, but you'll have to be patient
alexonline said:One thing you quickly learn about DBK - brevity is not part of his life remit. Words are his thing. He is wordy. It would be great if Textblade would launch, all the words from DBK hasn't made it arrive any faster, sadly.