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dabigkahuna said:

The past we’re estimates so you lose on that too. 

Also, to be clear, the above statement is a 100% falsehood. A total lie.

The very earliest ship dates that were stated, and many of the successive short time frames (next week, etc) were not offered as 'estimates', they were stated as assurances that shipping would occur upon those dates or within those specific time frames.

This is the primary false narrative that Kahuna likes to perpetuate ad nauseum, but anybody can go through the blog posts and Waytools forum to fact check his BS.

dabigkahuna said:

The past we’re estimates so you lose on that too. 

More accurately, it seems that when I make a point you cannot twist enough to fit your narrative, you ignore it completely, or you retort with BS assertions, as per above.

dabigkahuna said:

> If you were lying about your intent to arrive to court, and then purposefully crashed your car in order to avoid the appearance....
Wow, I'd say you're getting absurd, but you already passed that point.

The whole debate is absurd from the start. You have been comparing an unqualified affirmative answer to a specific question (Will you ship in 2019: Yes) to everything and anything involving wives and judges and appointments and car crashes while excluding the context of 4+ years of prior assurances, ambiguity, misdirection, and outright lies about when the product will be shipped. Every time you do this, you illuminate to all what a ridiculous lying shill you are.

My analogy works perfectly. Mark Knighton is a pathological liar, but it is difficult to prove to a criminal standard of proof. Fortunately, for civil courts and all reasonable peoples expectations of others assurances, the preponderance of evidence standard suffices.

If you tell a judge you have coincidentally had a car crash every day, week, month, and season that your court appearances was rescheduled, trust me, you are going to land in jail.

Waytools has already walked backwards on the clarity of their original answer, with your assistance. The answer is no longer yes, it is now something vague and meaningless about 'rising confidence'.

The truth is, it will not ship in 2019, or 2020, or any year after that. If we assume 100,000 orders (Mark seems to like higher numbers), then a mere 0.13% of those who paid for the device have been lucky enough to receive an unfinished prototype after 4+ years of waiting.

Waytools should refund all money, and resume orders when the product is actually ready to ship, if ever. That is the only ethical approach at this point.

dabigkahuna said:

To go back to the proper context, if a judge asks me if I can appear in court on Friday and I say, "yes", then, on the way to the courtroom on Friday I'm in an accident and am in the hospital instead of in court, I will not be charged with perjury.

If you were lying about your intent to arrive to court, and then purposefully crashed your car in order to avoid the appearance, then you would still be a pathological liar, but you might not be charged with perjury because it would be difficult to prove that someone would do something so moronic and self-destructive just to avoid a court appearance.

Hmmm. Kind of like....

WayTools_Support said:

Arkorott - firmware infrastructure update is main focus, per our posts on our forum.
We’ll be giving a tech update this month on our forum

This month. Next month. Winter. 2020. Dont hold your breath until you turn purple Arkorott.

dabigkahuna said:

patientlywaiting said:

Those of us who have been banned or shadowbanned from the WayTools Forum ask our questions here because we are unable to ask our questions there.

The question was about getting an update. They have already said it will be on their forum. Thus it doesn't matter if some can personally ask the question there or not.

It certainly does matter if a person wants to ask a question that further clarifies a point. Why do you 'answer' questions such as this on behalf of a company you allegedly do not work for and give such pointless and unhelpful responses? You are such a gasbag. This is what I mean by you enabling Mark Knightons behavior.

dabigkahuna said:

But it's fine if people want to ask here too. I was just pointing out where they have already said they will post it.

Nobody needs or asked for your permission to ask a question here too. You were just pointing out what everyone else was perfectly capable of reading themselves without your troll assistance.