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dabigkahuna said:

I can pretty much agree with that - though I would also point out that a lot of the attacks on the company are unfair. I've never objected to the fair ones. Made them myself. But, confirming that many people have been unfair is the fact that, in spite of me criticizing WT myself, I have often been accused of only defending them.

Unfairness has been a primary issue for me on the internet for decades. After I first, foolishly, thought it would be a great way for people to have rational discussions with others all over the world. After a couple years I realized that wasn't going to happen no matter how nice I was to people who weren't, so I set out to stand against the crap.

I dont see you defending unfairness here. I see a very specific bias in you and a keen focus on a specific narrative. You are like a defense lawyer. A good analogy to you and Waytools would be you are like Johnnie Cochran defending OJ. You ignore any and all facts and statements that hurt your narrative. You spin any facts that can suit your narrative. Alright, OJ beat his wife on several occasions, nobody is perfect, but he didnt kill her! Ok, WayTools missed 500 shipping deadlines by an infinite margin over the past 4+ years and all the while collected more and more money from more customers showing them a specific time frame when they would receive their product, but they never lied to anybody! Your propaganda strains credulity and you know it. 

But thats ok - it is good, because the ludicrous replies from WayTools_Support and Kahuna characters shine light on the defective personalities behind the company and the lies they believe and the lies they tell, which helps caution additional people away from being involved and giving the narcissists more money.

Clearly the people behind Waytools are never going to change. The only thing that can be done is to starve them to death until they disappear.

Masteroftheobvious said:

Not sure how to repay 'principle' but I'd gladly contribute to paying you interest for four years, at my bank account interest rate of .01%, which is ~4 cents, if it makes you feel better.   It will have to be through paypal, etc. as you are not worth a 50 cent stamp.  You don't get an early adopter gift if you cancel, that's the deal, take it or leave it.

No doubt you are part of the Waytools team and that sentiment is exactly how Waytools thinks about and treats its customers. Thanks for proving one of my points. 

My message has been delivered. I recommend no one give money to the outrageously unethical people who run this company until they fulfill their obligations to the past four years worth of customers whose money they already have.

Hey @Verxion at WT forum:

From JULY OF LAST YEAR, in response to that post, WayTools said: “All - Working through update topics this Sunday, will advise soon.” (still no update, a year later)

Are you surprised?

Now a lot has happened since then. For example, I posted about a grave concern I had with a graphic on the website. I posted about that a half year ago: https://forum.waytools.com/t/problem-graphic-on-the-website/5520/4 This is what Waytools said over half a year ago in response: “Team will brainstorm some further refinements, and alternative ways to present it. We’ll plan to revise it within a week.” (it still hasn’t been changed)

Are you surprised?

More than two months ago, I wrote a post: https://forum.waytools.com/t/so-i-guess-i-gave-a-ted-no-a-techtalk-no-a-textblade-talk-in-a-theater/5604
In that post, I said: “How long will it be before you all get to know more of what I know right now? ... Based on my most recent conversation with Mark, I’d be surprised if you don’t know more in less than two months. Hopefully significantly less than two months from now.” (we still don’t have this information posted)

Are you surprised?

I had intentionally padded what Mark had told me of when he’d share information with everyone. BY A LOT. But then I sort of quietly forgot about it as I have a lot going on in my life right now (we are getting VERY CLOSE to adopting the little boy we’ve had in foster care for two years!!!) As some of you know, I’ve been extremely bullish about the TextBlade and I continue to know and believe that it is a TRANSFORMATIVE PRODUCT, one that people will love when they receive it. But I recently had an experience that unfortunately made me have to take a step back. 

Congrats on the adoption. 

While the nature of your restaurant encounter was obviously uncomfortable, given that the outcome ended up being somewhat congenial, it seems it was a net positive. Too many of the WT cheerleading squad seem to live in a bubble of non-empathy, similar to Mark Knighton. I'm glad you are taking a 'step back' and thinking about the degree to which you tolerate Mark Knighton's ridiculous BS.

There is honor and integrity in being transparent, reliable, deadline oriented, consistent, and truthful. Mark Knighton is none of those things, so it really baffles me as to why others who seemingly have some of those qualities would attempt to defend his behavior so often.

dabigkahuna said:

weirdosmurf said:

 so it’s just deliberate misrepresentation then... [shrug]

Except I didn't misrepresent anyone.

But here you are, once again making it about me

Mark Knighton is a pathological liar.

Not about you.

poisednoise said:

weirdosmurf said:

i suspect we are in for a long, long wait before anyone sees an actual purchased TextBlade (if ever...). 

it's really quite liberating: I've never put anyone on ignore before, and it's quite fun seeing "gaps" in the post numbers and imagining what tripe I'm not having to waste my time with!).

Yes it is liberating. I have 'it' on ignore now too. It's rather amazing. It's as if, suddenly, a scene of urban blight was instantly converted into a beautiful park. 

poisednoise said:

the delay and problem here lies not so much with the product per se as the person leading the project. Like you, I suspect the only way we'll ever see a GR is if another company buys the IP. it'd be kinda cool to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.

Mark Knighton is an epic disaster who will never be able to get this across the finish line. You can tell by his whole persona that this thing will live or die under his direction. He's already in one lawsuit with former partners. He has barricaded the success of this product behind his own epic delinquency and insanity. He is not the type who can admit that he's been very wrong about everything. He will probably bankrupt the Waytools shell company before selling it.

After Waytools missed the May deadline for the update:

>Waytools wrote 9 days ago:
>>Just letting everyone know we expect to post our TechTalk update with a lot of exciting news
>>about TextBlade’s powerful new firmware infrastructure, on Saturday evening after 9 pm pst.

>Waytools wrote one week ago:
>>Sundays are good quiet time for this kind of work.

>Waytools wrote 6 days ago:
Here we are, on the path to two weeks after the promised May update. Another 'quiet Sunday'. A 'good time for this kind of work'. Does anybody think Mark Knighton is actually working right now? I think he's probably doing something else.

User @dpom on the WT forum thought Mark deserved props for having worked all last weekend. I wonder how @dpom feels now?

User @colinng on the WT forum wrote something, but then thought better of it and deleted it. @colinng is probably re-thinking his life choices after having compared Mark Knighton to Mozart, Bach, and da Vinci.

User @gmadden appropriately wrote 'Here's to insanity'. @gmadden posts here on AI so perhaps he has some inspired thoughts to share about all this.

Treg testers - please consider disclosing what the 'top gift' is that so many of us have been waiting for. Try something different. Instead of enabling Mark Knighton to keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again for 4+ years, try changing the situation. Take away some of Mark's manipulative power by disclosing to his customers what they will gain by hanging in there for another 4 years, or what they will give up if they decide to finally abandon hope and cancel their orders. Be a force for good, and transparency, so Mark's customers can make an informed decision rather than being kept in the dark and held hostage to the whims of a delinquent sociopath.

AnthRD said:

I was banned on the forums for “misrepresentation” when I tried to estimate when would finally be released (estimated 2016). They were right I was wrong, I was overly optimistic on when would be released. 

Wow. Mark Knighton clearly hates optimists. Thanks for sharing that perfect example of his nasty narcissistic authoritarian attitude towards his customers.

Hopefully some brave Treg tester will soon anonymously reveal the 'top gift'. I'm hoping there's at least one out there who can understand the rationale of chipping away at some of Mark's manipulative control of the situation. If the 'gift' is known, then customers can make a more informed decision about whether to continue waiting or not, after waiting for so long already, and as a bonus, perhaps Mark might be motivated to modify his behavior in a constructive way if he no longer wields the 'carrot and stick' and simply has to be judged based on what he can, or more likely, cannot accomplish. 

dabigkahuna said:

2. So if someone shoots your dog, it is ethical to shoot their dog?
4. It is unethical because we agreed not to tell. It doesn't matter why they want it to be a secret. It only matters that we agreed to keep it a secret.

#2 - Ugh. What an ugly analogy. You're primitive little brain repulses me. I'll restate the point at a higher level: At the extremes, ethics become relative. It's not ethical to just shoot someone, but it may be ethical to shoot someone who is shooting at you.

#4 - By that sweeping logic, anyone who ever swore to keep secrets for a leader/politician/govt/bureaucracy/organization which later turned narcissistic, corrupt, or cruel committed an unethical act by revealing any secret that helped to reform or expose or bring down the offender. By that logic, all whistleblowers are unethical in your view. What a world we would live in if you ran it.

You are far too much of a simpleton to debate this Kahuna. I'm sure if we were to place you somewhere in time under dire circumstances, you would be very loyal soldier in the hands of a tyrant.

To everyone else, I say:  The circumstances have changed. A line has been crossed. The 'top gift' is no longer a 'gift'. It is a means of manipulation. Test Mark Knighton by revealing it. After 4+ years of his ludicrous, unprofessional, embarrassing insanity, watching him do the same things over and over again is just, well, insanity - as the saying goes. So lets try something else. Push Mark Knighton in an unknown direction. Take something he currently uses to control people - a piece of information that would cause no harm to Waytools by revealing - and give it to the people who paid and never received anything. Lets see what happens.