TextBladeDenied

dabigkahuna said:

TextBladeDenied said:
You are confused. Read what you wrote. If I cancel my order, I cancel my claim. 

You said they will NOT ship in 2019 and 2020. The deal would only require you cancel if you are WRONG. If you are right, your claim remains.

Seems you have no confidence in your assertion!

I am completely confident they will not ship in 2019 or 2020, and I am completely confident that I will retain my order and thus my right to a claim for as long as I please until I see fit to do otherwise, regardless of whatever biased propaganda you spew onto the internet shilling for Mark Knighton.

What I lack confidence in is your grasp on reality.

dabigkahuna said:

But you said it wouldn't ship. If it doesn't then agreeing to cancel your order if it does doesn't affect your chances of getting it (assuming your are correct), nor would it affect your claimed effort to hold them accountable for NOT shipping. Only if you are wrong do you lose anything. Seems you aren't very confident about that.

You are confused. Read what you wrote. If I cancel my order, I cancel my claim. Not going to happen. I retain the right to hold them accountable to the original terms of sale. Period. Obfuscate all you want. Does not matter.

dabigkahuna said:

2. Just establishing that saying "Yes" and then not achieving what you said "Yes" to does not mean someone lied. And I've pointed out that whether it is something actually bad or not depends upon WHY - which doesn't include whatever you might ASSUME.

I dont care what nonsense you think you are establishing. It is not important. You are ignoring the fact that language conveys intent, and intent establishes accountability. When someone is held accountable for their actions in court, the standard of evidence is not the realm of all possibilities in the quantum physical universe as you like to suggest in your whimsical nonsensical and naive musings. In civil cases, preponderance of the evidence suffices. 


Two pallets of aging Textblades with expired batteries.  Millions of dollars collected from 100,000+ customers? $95,419.84 in revenue per prototype test units (131) supplied? 2 unfinished test units provided to journalists. 4+ years of waiting. No final product shipped. No keys for kids. Who has the money? Mark Knighton has the money.

Mark Knighton said:

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Rather odd how both perpetually make the case for how these ‘lying liar’ scoundrels don’t make their imaginary product, and are stealing money, while they both concurrently chastise the maker for ‘forcing’ customers to take their money back in refunds.

As stated repeatedly:  Holding you accountable to the original terms of sale. Really pissed off after 4+ years of your BS. Dont like it? Tough.

Mark Knighton said:

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Even more baffling is how both of them in lock-step, each insist on leaving their money with these alleged thieves, to get the non-product, that’s not production, and will never ship.  

As stated previously:  To retain a claim against you for a possible lawsuit. TBD. Dont like it? Too bad.

Mark Knighton said:

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And how both go to great lengths to hide their identities and orders so they don’t get ‘punished” with a refund of their “stolen” money. And this is just to make sure they can file a claim to recover said money which they refuse to take back. 

 (Note - I do not know or speak for Rolanbek despite Mark Knighton lumping us together.)

That point aside, speaking only for myself - 100% correct on both points! You finally seem to be getting some of this through your thick skull.

Mark Knighton said:

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And all of this playing out on the comment section of an article about this imaginary product, which didn’t get produced, and didn’t ship to anyone at all, and certainly not to the writer who didn’t get it, but somehow managed to find it superb and loves writing on it.

Deflection. Obfuscation. Lies. Nobody has claimed the Appleinsider author did not receive a test unit. Nobody has claimed that there are no test units. See how you twist and turn and lie? Thank you for yet another example.

Quite the contrary, I have repeatedly made the point (check my footnote on every post) that you have obtained potentially tens of thousands in revenue per unit for the 131 unfinished test units delivered to treg testers. I dont know how many of those units account for those shipped to journalists. If you prefer, I will account for the two I am aware of in my footnote (1 to Macrumors years ago + 1 to Appleinsider).

Mark Knighton said:

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If you’re having trouble following all this, perhaps it’s because that is precisely the plan.

Nobody here is confused except you, and your CPO (Chief Propaganda Officer) Kahuna.

Mark Knighton said:

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Confusion and distraction are often the bedfellows of deception.

That is a beautiful example right there of accusing others of that which you know best.

Did I (or Rolanbenk) take your money 4+ years ago and promise you a product would be in your hands at a series of missed ship dates?

You really need to get a grip on yourself.


Two pallets of aging Textblades with expired batteries.  Millions of dollars collected from 100,000+ customers? $95,419.84 in revenue per prototype test units (131) supplied? 2 unfinished test units provided to journalists. 4+ years of waiting. No final product shipped. No keys for kids. Who has the money? Mark Knighton has the money.

dabigkahuna said:

patientlywaiting > OK. For you there is effectively no meaningful difference between "I expect to [X]", "I promise to [X]", "I assure you [X]", "I guarantee that [X]"

They are different, but only in degree of confidence of the statement. And all can be wrong, without someone lying. 

You are fixated on the notion of 'lying' as a 'binary' choice, without acknowledging that in society there are consequences in those 'degrees' of confidence. You do not have to prove someone is lying in order to hold them responsible for failing to uphold their word.

If you 'guarantee' something to someone, that guarantee, whether it is just a personal guarantee to your wife that you will do something, or a professional guarantee to a colleague, or a legal guarantee in a contract - all can have serious consequences when the guarantee is broken.

You are a master of spin Kahuna, so you use the innocent example of guaranteeing a spouse you will pick up the kids and then getting into a car accident. You intentionally pick the most excusable scenario.

Your analogy would be much closer to the truth if the example was guaranteeing a spouse you will pick up the kids, then stopping at a bar along the way to get drunk, and forgetting about the appointment entirely. Were you lying? Did you know you were going to have an urge to get drunk on the way to pick up the kids? (Kahuna - maybe not, so it was not lying). Did you know you were going to forget about the appointment after you got drunk? (Kahuna - maybe not, so it was not lying). Did you know with certainty that when you finally continued on your way to the school you were going to wreck the car because you were drunk? (Kahuna - maybe not, so it was not lying).

It is ridiculous of course, as are all of your cringeworthy analogies and spinster arguments.


Two pallets of aging Textblades with expired batteries.  Millions of dollars collected from 100,000+ customers? $95,419.84 in revenue per prototype test units (131) supplied? 4+ years. No final product shipped. No keys for kids. Who has the money? Mark Knighton has the money.

dabigkahuna said:

TBD > There will be no Textblade. Not in 2019. Not in 2020.

Considering your practice of keeping your order while ridiculing anyone who places an order, let's take a different approach. How about you publicly vow to cancel your order in WayTools does ship in 2019 or 2020? Just so we can tell if you really believe what you say (which doesn't mean anyone else has to believe it!). 

Why would I do that? I have repeatedly and clearly stated that my intent is to hold Waytools accountable to the original terms of sale, which is reasonable under any circumstances, and to retain a claim so I can sue if absolutely necessary. I am among the earliest customers.

There is no contradiction in my being one of the original purchasers who waited 4+ years while relying upon Marks lies, and my desire now to caution newcomers (after Waytools launched a renewed PR campaign via Appleinsider) not to get pulled into the same debacle as thousands of others.


Two pallets of aging Textblades with expired batteries.  Millions of dollars collected from 100,000+ customers? $95,419.84 in revenue per prototype test units (131) supplied? 4+ years. No final product shipped. No keys for kids. Who has the money? Mark Knighton has the money.