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Apple Vision Pro followup expected to be a more affordable, cut-down model
Then you're talking AR, not VR, and I've seen nothing that indicates that this is where Apple is taking all this in the near future when they've clearly made AR a feature of their VR experience.InspiredCode said:
The rumors are a A-series chip in the non-pro version. I think where Apple will not compromise is in areas that affect comfort. Who knows, maybe an A-series chip with R1 built in. Additionally we are talking at least a couple years of advances in A-series chips before it releases.FileMakerFeller said:
For me it's a matter of timeframe. Apple is absolutely planning for multiple price tiers for the AVP, but they won't implement them until supply gets close to exceeding demand. Right now the bottleneck is the screens - supply is constrained and we don't know exactly when that will be rectified, but I doubt it will be in time for "version 2" of the device.InspiredCode said:
Why not? All of Apples other products have separate consumer and pro lines. Apple may be able to get away with a less powerful chip since the general use case will be apps and media consumption. The iPhone processor is much more powerful then what the Meta Quest 3 has.Afarstar said:I *can* sorta imagine Apple offering a new and distinguishable "virtual computing device" of some sort; but not just a less capable, less expensive, AVP.In proper English it’s ’sort of’ not sorta.Won’t you Yankees ever learn?Powerful VR experiences closer to PC VR rigs may be limited to the pro.
The one certainty is that Apple will not make any compromises on the quality of the experience. Any "low cost model" will be at least as capable as the first version of the AVP, and Apple will focus on how the "Apple Vision" is a wonderful experience and the Apple Vision Pro is even better.
Apple would like to get visionOS in glasses one day. That means less power, not more power. I think we will see a range of capabilities. If you are really buying for more than casual gaming or for 3D modeling then the Pro model is likely needed. I imagine the standard model will run flat apps and play movies just fine, but with fewer batteries and longer runtime.
Additionally, I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Apple release an AR version of their upscaling technology to lower hardware requirements. Qualcomm recently released their own version of this. It is tricky to do since you wouldn’t want to do that for text rendering, but I’d be surprised if we don’t see it by the next model.
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Apple Vision Pro followup expected to be a more affordable, cut-down model
That would be exceedingly foolish to have no strategies for a new product (or anything else) in a multi-trillion dollar company.InspiredCode said:eightzero said:
This is an actual question: what new device has Apple offered in the past where this happened? IOW, the premium version came out, and then afterwards a less expensive option was offered shortly thereafter.I guarantee Apple doesn’t have a playbook they follow for new products.
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Apple Vision Pro followup expected to be a more affordable, cut-down model
I haven't done an exhaustive search but the iPod mini was launched less than 2.5 years after the launch of the original iPod. That seems like it would be inline with this current rumor for the Apple Vision.eightzero said:This is an actual question: what new device has Apple offered in the past where this happened? IOW, the premium version came out, and then afterwards a less expensive option was offered shortly thereafter. I'm not convinced this is Apple's plan at all. Get the costs of parts down? Sure. They *always* do that, and the difference goes into their bank, not to lower priced stuff. Over time perhaps the devices get way more capable for about the same price, but that's not what is posited here.
The only thing I can think of is the original iPhone: people complained when they bought one at full price (over $500!) and then a few months later Apple dropped the price. Purchasers complained, and Apple (Steve) offered refunds.
I *can* sorta imagine Apple offering a new and distinguishable "virtual computing device" of some sort; but not just a less capable, less expensive, AVP.
Also, while it took 3.5 years, the Apple TV went from a $300/$400 device for the first generation to a $99 device for the 2nd generation. Not exactly the same as the functionality was overall better with the 2nd gem, but it was a major drop in price once they moved from being macOS to iOS based, something that won't happen with Apple Vision OS or HW.
The iPhone SE came out in 2016 with the original iPhone launching in 2007. The iPhone 5c launched in 2013 as first less expensive model with older tech that wasn't just last year's model with a price drop.muthuk_vanalingam said:
iPhone SE would be an apt comparison.eightzero said:This is an actual question: what new device has Apple offered in the past where this happened? IOW, the premium version came out, and then afterwards a less expensive option was offered shortly thereafter. I'm not convinced this is Apple's plan at all. Get the costs of parts down? Sure. They *always* do that, and the difference goes into their bank, not to lower priced stuff. Over time perhaps the devices get way more capable for about the same price, but that's not what is posited here.
The only thing I can think of is the original iPhone: people complained when they bought one at full price (over $500!) and then a few months later Apple dropped the price. Purchasers complained, and Apple (Steve) offered refunds.
I *can* sorta imagine Apple offering a new and distinguishable "virtual computing device" of some sort; but not just a less capable, less expensive, AVP.
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Apple Vision Pro followup expected to be a more affordable, cut-down model
If that's a serious post then... 🤦♂️Afarstar said:I *can* sorta imagine Apple offering a new and distinguishable "virtual computing device" of some sort; but not just a less capable, less expensive, AVP.In proper English it’s ’sort of’ not sorta.Won’t you Yankees ever learn?
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Apple Vision Pro followup expected to be a more affordable, cut-down model
Like others, I'm not sure I understand your post, but I will say that if I had no main computing device and $3500 to spend I absolutely choose a MacBook Pro. I'd also choose a $3500 MacBook Pro over any iPhone or iPad as my main computing device. I just prefer a Mac notebook as primary computer, but that isn't to say that I don't use an iPad, iPhone, or Apple Watch. I'd love to try out AVP and if I feel there's a use case that warrants the cost I'll buy it. Currently I'm thinking that commercial flights might a great use for it but since I don't fly nearly as much as I used to I'm not ready to write a check.ravnorodom said:For even $2000, I would rather pay a little bit more and get a MacBook Pro instead.
