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  • Drama about emulators on the App Store has only just begun

    I’ll keep my 3DS. 
    I’ll keep my GBA. (Seeing how far people can step this back :smiley: )
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  • When to expect every Mac to get the AI-based M4 processor

    blastdoor said:
    blastdoor said:
    NYC362 said:
    blastdoor said:
    That roadmap implies no m3 Mac mini. I wonder if there will also be no m3 Mac Studio and if maybe the Mac Studio will get an m4 faster than we’d otherwise expect. And if all that turns out to be true, I wonder if the explanation might be that the first 3nm process from TSMC had yield issues, so maybe Apple wants to move to N3E ASAP
    I wonder if we might see an intro of an M4 Max and Ultra for the Mac Studio and Mac Pro at WWDC.   Introduce them on June 10th, available on June 21 or 28 (which is a bit longer than the normal announcement to availability span for Apple)... that's 10 or 11 weeks away.  Considering the relative small numbers of units needed compared to MacBook Pros, this could be a possibility.  
     
    Also, putting an M3 Max and Ultra chip into a Studio in June, really makes no sense as the processors (at least for the Max) as it would already be eight months old.  
    LOL, this is never going to happen.  The M4 is not that far along and the basic vanilla M4 would be the first one out of the fab due to less complexity compared to the Pro/Max/Ultra. Fabs rarely if ever start with the more advanced chips and then work backwards. Moreover, if the M4’s are ready now one has to question how many “AI” enhancements it actually has.   

     I would imagine Apple will have the vanilla M4 pretty much ready to go to production but it will not have much in terms of significant AI enhanced features that will be added to the Pro/Max/Ultra models in which I can see each iteration being more AI capable.  This also allows Apple to continue working on further AI enhancement capabilities that will be part of the Ultra or Max. 
    I agree it is unlikely to happen in June, but never say never. The max and ultra are very low volume relative to other chips in apples lineup so it’s not crazy to think they could come earlier in the cycle than was the case for m1 and m2. 

    Heck, m3 max was out at the same time as m3, so there is that precedent. 
    If for some reason the M4 max was released so soon I doubt it would have compelling AI capabilities since it seems Apple has been a little late to the AI party.  
    Apple first included an NPU in the A11, back in 2017. They have increased the number of cores from 2 to 16 during that time. They’ve primarily used it for image related ML tasks. 

    Apple is only late to the GPT NLP game. But no later than they were to the mp3 player or smartphone games. It might be too early to count them out.
    It seems no matter how many times it get spelled out, some people will still read that and think “but NPU and AI don’t have any of the same letters.”
    thtblastdoorwilliamlondonAlex1Nwatto_cobraroundaboutnow
  • When to expect every Mac to get the AI-based M4 processor

    Amazing how this same one bit of rumor went from “improvements to the Neural Engine” and now with that exact same bit of RUMOR, it’s “AI-based processor M4”

    the idea of the 24 hour news cycle will be the end of the human race. 
    I think your second point may be correct, but I'm not seeing what your first sentence has to do with anything. Your quoted portions are basically saying the same thing.
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  • When to expect every Mac to get the AI-based M4 processor

    smsm said:
    Xed said:
    smsm said:
    I'm I the only person who doesn't want AI on his devices? So for the interaction I have had with AI has been Artificial Stupid not intelligence. If Apple forces AI with the next operating systems I will not install it or purchase any device with it pre-installed. I already have all the intelligence I need. I use my brain.
    So you have predictive text in Messages disabled?
    So AI built in to the next operating systems will only work with an internet connection as they do now? What I don’t want is my own device creating this. I’m not aware that this is happening yet.
    Not sure why we're still going around this same mulberry bush, but Apple has incorporated on-device AI since at least 2017 right in their A11 chip and OS code.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_A11#Neural_Engine
    williamlondonAlex1Nwatto_cobraroundaboutnow
  • When to expect every Mac to get the AI-based M4 processor

    smsm said:
    I'm I the only person who doesn't want AI on his devices? So for the interaction I have had with AI has been Artificial Stupid not intelligence. If Apple forces AI with the next operating systems I will not install it or purchase any device with it pre-installed. I already have all the intelligence I need. I use my brain.
    So you have predictive text in Messages disabled?
    williamlondonwatto_cobraroundaboutnow