Xed

h2p said:

As I've said before, it's confirmed, Netflix is not allowing their iPad app on to the VisionPro. They Don't want a bit of more distribution?

It's been pointed out elsewhere that Netflix was quick to create —which they didn't even have to do for a solid iPad app experience over the Safari browser experience — an app for Nvidia Shield and some shitty Facebook service whose name I've already forgotten.

macxpress said:

DavidEsrati said:

Jony Ive is a stylist and ruined the MacBook Pro so he could make a case for his tiny toy- the MacBook Air.
The keyboards were useless, they ditched magsafe - you needed a dongle for everything.
Jony Ive leaving was the best move Apple could make.
Now if someone would talk some sense into Apple about getting serious about small business and return Apple Server- and fix Apple ID to work easily for corporate owned devices we might actually get somewhere.

There's no need for needing a server these days. Apple already has an AppleID solution for enterprise. It's called Apple Business Manager and they also have a lite MDM called Apple Business Essentials. With an MDM there's no reason to have a server at all really. If you need storage there are more than plenty of storage solutions out there that work great with Apple products. 

https://www.apple.com/business/enterprise/it/

https://www.apple.com/business/essentials/

Fortune500 companies all over the world use Apple Business Manager and an MDM solution such as Jamf to manage their Macs, iOS devices and AppleTV's. IBM for one is one of the largest major companies that use Macs in its environment using ABM and Jamf. They also use it for their iOS devices as well. 

You don't image a Mac anymore as it's all configured by MDM out of the box, or you restore it and let the MDM set it back up the way you want it. iOS devices are also setup automatically with the MDM, same goes for AppleTV's. There's no reason to do something like Netbooting, or QT streaming server, etc. There's just simply no reason to have macOS Server anymore. 

I'm very much a Mac user, deep into the Apple ecosystem, and have been using Apple products longer than most AI readers have probably been alive, but I can't for a second agree that there's no need for servers and that anything Apple does for business is even close to a complete or relevant enterprise solution. As kludgy as MS always has been, currently is, and surely will be, using MS365 to manage users is overall a great experience and nothing Apple can begin to touch.

mrstep said:

Xed said:

timmillea said:

There is hardly any difference between the MacBook Pro and Air since Apple silicon. One has a fan and the other doesn't. All other differences are purely down to marketing and deliberate product placement. Improved heat sinking would remove the need for a fan, the display could be made premium and suddenly there is no need for two product lines. Ive was right. 

The lack of a fan affects the weight, internal space usage (i.e.: overall size), power usage, and speaks to the performance allowable. An improved heat sink will improve that but I'll need hard numbers showing cost and benefit to know if that's both worth it or even feasible with a maxed out MacBook Pro.

True on sustained performance, but the odd thing is that there's been almost no weight difference ("Air"?) for years when it was 2.8lbs vs 3lbs. Apparently the solution was to make the Pro start at 14" and 3.5 lbs, I'd still love to see a true Air show up at the 2 lb mark again. 🤷‍♂️ 

I know that the larger chassis of the MacBook Pro needs a beefier aluminum structure to support the extra weight over an extra distance without flexing, and I wouldn't be surprised if the higher cost of the MBP is more than than just the performance components, but also some better components for cooling which can be lower in weight compared to the entry-level MBA. I'm not sure where these components will fall but I do know that there are a lot of variables to consider to make a valid comparison.

timmillea said:

There is hardly any difference between the MacBook Pro and Air since Apple silicon. One has a fan and the other doesn't. All other differences are purely down to marketing and deliberate product placement. Improved heat sinking would remove the need for a fan, the display could be made premium and suddenly there is no need for two product lines. Ive was right. 

The lack of a fan affects the weight, internal space usage (i.e.: overall size), power usage, and speaks to the performance allowable. An improved heat sink will improve that but I'll need hard numbers showing cost and benefit to know if that's both worth it or even feasible with a maxed out MacBook Pro.

Additionally, Ive has been gone for 5 years and that was before Apple Silicon Macs starts to be introduced. Was Ive talking about the then unreleased Apple Silicon Macs, but this also could've been a quote from years before that was on the table. Personally, I'm very happy that Cook didn't listen to Ive —assuming this is all legitimate in terms of discussion and memory of past events — as I don't to use the anemic MacBook Air as my primary computing device.

And let's not forget that Ive is not infallible in his ideas. The hockey puck mouse, the  clamshell Mac with the upside-down Apple logo when open, charging port on bottom of Magic Mouse 2 to name a few. But at least we're not all talking about the MacMan, which is what Steve Jobs wanted to call the iMac. Bullet dodged there.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/06/30/the-worst-apple-designs-by-jony-ive-according-to-the-appleinsider-staff

There are also outliers such as BlackBerry Access 3…

Does that number refer to user base?