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Apple reportedly dropping camera supplier O-Film after forced labor allegations
Right on cue. @georebmac in to save the day for poor old China that just has a stellar track record when it comes to human rights. I’ve been wondering, back when they had the one child rule, and mothers had the option to either kill their baby girl or put the up for adoption to countries like the US, what was your defense back then?GeorgeBMac said:mjtomlin said:wood1208 said:Don't take away income from poor people. If you choose to manufacture in places where people are poor than overlook what's going on and let local goverment and society address it, not my investment in Apple.
Did you miss the "forced labor" part? These aren't poor people being made to work long hours. These are an ethnically targeted group of people being rounded up, thrown into "re-education" camps, and sent off to work in factories against their will.IF it was really forced then you would be right.But I would not trust the the U.S. Dept of Commerce to tell me what color black is -- particularly when it comes to China. They, along with the Treasury Dept, have been the hub of implementing Trump's smear and hate campaign against China. And now, as their end nears, they are throwing as much fuel on the flames as they can.And, as we are seeing so clearly now with our election, these clowns rely on allegations rather than evidence to complete their mission: take down China.The U.S. Dept of Commerce is one of many U.S. government agencies that will need to be decontaminated and depoliticized.
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Hewlett Packard Enterprise leaving Silicon Valley, moving to Texas
I din't think you are referring to me exclusively, but there was something the other day I didn't agree with you on. Can't remember what it was now, but contrary to what some may think, I don't hold grudges.22july2013 said:
Interestingly, I can never tell in advance when a response to my post will be positive, like yours (thanks), or something like this: "your comment is so moronic it doesn't deserve a response," which I got a couple of days ago.razorpit said:
Sadly you understand it much better than most Americans. At least on this site.22july2013 said:
When Trump used those opening words about a third world country, the Dems called him a racist. Et tu?flydog said:
Texas is a shithole, and no one wants to live there, which is precisely why housing is so cheap. When it becomes more like California it will be because people want to live there and drive up prices, not because of "bad governmental decisions."razorpit said:Only problem is the company will pull all the people that made the same bad governmental decisions in CA to TX. Eventually Texas will eventually end up ruined like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, etc.
And on the face of it these words don't make sense. People are leaving California because of the high taxes. And the taxes are high mostly because of California's trillion dollar pension obligations. As a result, California will have to raise taxes higher, resulting in a vicious circle and potentially the inability for California to pay its debts. Whereas Texas will get more young workers who pay taxes resulting in a better economy and tax base for them. The economy and population of Texas is growing, so it's hard to believe the claim above that "Texas will be ruined."
The good news is that California isn't the worst state for funding its pensions. It's only the sixth worst. I didn't mention bankruptcy because it's not at all clear that California will go bankrupt, and also because bankruptcy isn't a legal option. Federal Bankruptcy Code prohibits US States from declaring bankruptcy, although the Bankruptcy Code could be modified. However the US Supreme Court supersedes even Congressional Law, and in 1977 the Supreme Court said, "a state cannot refuse to meet its legitimate financial obligations simply because it would prefer to spend the money to promote the public good rather than the private welfare of its creditors." It would be difficult understanding how a State Bankruptcy would be overseen... would someone in the US Government manage the State's budget, laws and taxes? The US Supreme Court says States are Sovereign and cannot be run by a Federal agent. I would think that if a US State modified its constitution to allow a Federal Takeover, that would permit the Feds to run the State.
I'm not an American so I have no stake in this debate. But I do relish all constitutional crises because they tend to find solutions that answer difficult questions.
It's a sign of a healthy relationship to have disagreements, on things, unless you are discussing facts. Sadly there are some on here that are so off base, nothing is going to help them. That's what scares me with the recent censorship issues on social media. That's not healthy behavior. That's what famous dictators of the past and present did/done.
As some one else (I think in this thread) already said, I'm happy we can have these discussions. sometimes I learn from them and sometimes I teach. Hope others can keep things "in-check"so we get to keep them going. -
Salesforce to acquire Slack in $27.7 billion deal
Well, at least those pricey contracts now have something to show for themselves...
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Hewlett Packard Enterprise leaving Silicon Valley, moving to Texas
Sadly you understand it much better than most Americans. At least on this site.22july2013 said:
When Trump used those opening words about a third world country, the Dems called him a racist. Et tu?flydog said:
Texas is a shithole, and no one wants to live there, which is precisely why housing is so cheap. When it becomes more like California it will be because people want to live there and drive up prices, not because of "bad governmental decisions."razorpit said:Only problem is the company will pull all the people that made the same bad governmental decisions in CA to TX. Eventually Texas will eventually end up ruined like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, etc.
And on the face of it these words don't make sense. People are leaving California because of the high taxes. And the taxes are high mostly because of California's trillion dollar pension obligations. As a result, California will have to raise taxes higher, resulting in a vicious circle and potentially the inability for California to pay its debts. Whereas Texas will get more young workers who pay taxes resulting in a better economy and tax base for them. The economy and population of Texas is growing, so it's hard to believe the claim above that "Texas will be ruined."
The good news is that California isn't the worst state for funding its pensions. It's only the sixth worst. I didn't mention bankruptcy because it's not at all clear that California will go bankrupt, and also because bankruptcy isn't a legal option. Federal Bankruptcy Code prohibits US States from declaring bankruptcy, although the Bankruptcy Code could be modified. However the US Supreme Court supersedes even Congressional Law, and in 1977 the Supreme Court said, "a state cannot refuse to meet its legitimate financial obligations simply because it would prefer to spend the money to promote the public good rather than the private welfare of its creditors." It would be difficult understanding how a State Bankruptcy would be overseen... would someone in the US Government manage the State's budget, laws and taxes? The US Supreme Court says States are Sovereign and cannot be run by a Federal agent. I would think that if a US State modified its constitution to allow a Federal Takeover, that would permit the Feds to run the State.
I'm not an American so I have no stake in this debate. But I do relish all constitutional crises because they tend to find solutions that answer difficult questions.
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Hewlett Packard Enterprise leaving Silicon Valley, moving to Texas
Stop, you’re just making yourself look foolish. Renting a 26’ U-haul from Silicon Valley to Austin, Tx $5,365. Going the opposite direction, $1,084. Do I need to explain to you why those numbers work the way they do?flydog said:
Texas is a shithole, and no one wants to live there, which is precisely why housing is so cheap. When it becomes more like California it will be because people want to live there and drive up prices, not because of "bad governmental decisions."razorpit said:Only problem is the company will pull all the people that made the same bad governmental decisions in CA to TX. Eventually Texas will eventually end up ruined like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, etc.Where do you live? Punch the numbers in yourself then you can come back and tell us how ignorant you are.
Colorado is on the path of Wisconsin. Both are beautiful states, but government had nothing to do with that. That’s all on God.neoncat said:Texas has some interesting ideas about tax rebates for business—some of the most generous in the entire country. It's a no-brainer to relocate there if you can pull talent. Austin is an interesting and diverse city, lots of viewpoints and ideas (and Apple has a huge presence there). Houston is genuinely not terrible either, really, outside of its weird (read: non-existent) zoning laws. Hope you like a factory moving in next door. I've traveled to Houston a lot for business (well, used to) and found I didn't hate it as much as I expected I would.
But talking about a state like Colorado as "ruined" is pretty funny, given the concentration of wealth and entrepreneurship here. My home state of Wisconsin, tho... now there's a backwater. I have no desire to ever return. Beautiful scenery, especially up north, but culturally... scary place.
Wow, never bothered to ask yourself why they are leaving? You are literally talking about stepping in dogsh*t in your front yard and to clean it off your shoe you slide it all over your sidewalk and driveway and congratulate yourself on a job well done. (San Francisco crowd, insert human feces and you’ll have an idea of what I’m talking about.)commentzilla said:
Exactly. Fortunately there is an upside, all of these people moving to Texas will make its conversion to from a Red to Blue state all that much faster! That's what happened in Georgia and we're seeing the same in other Red states.flydog said:
Texas is a shithole, and no one wants to live there, which is precisely why housing is so cheap. When it becomes more like California it will be because people want to live there and drive up prices, not because of "bad governmental decisions."razorpit said:Only problem is the company will pull all the people that made the same bad governmental decisions in CA to TX. Eventually Texas will eventually end up ruined like Colorado, Arizona, Nevada, etc.
