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winstoner71 said:

Some of you need to stop being such Karens. This is news. Good reporting. 

Some of "you" need to stop being such Dicks, calling people Karens for merely sharing an opinion. It is news in a limited context. Good reporting? Maybe. Besides, I like the idea of a surprise even if it's not that much "new" to unveil.

Stabitha_Christie said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing. 

Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.

Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.

I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.

...I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. 

I agree. Enabling bad behavior doesn't help. But that's another genie that will never be put back in the bottle. Paparazzi selling their pics to tabloids because the public believes in "their right to know" proves that. This and every other tech news/rumor site operates on much the same way. I doubt that many sites pay for this kind of "news" not that it matters much. So I agree in a better world this wouldn't have happened. We have to make peace the best we can and pick our battles.

Let's assume this is an actual pic and not AI. Sunglasses knew he'd be the subject of pics if the rumors of his security team are accurate. The whole situation gives me a "staged" feel. Who is he? An Apple employee doesn't seem probably. Why was he photographing the alleged 17 outdoors in what appears to be a public area? Who provided the phone? Is this an Official Apple Leak?

Then there's a question (of me at least) of whether or not as previously mentioned this is an AI generated rendering and not a photo. The third finger of the left hand looks to be obscured by some artifact. Sunglasses' reflection in the 17 looks to me to be at a wrong angle. Sunglasses' sunglasses reflect almost completely different images. That might be explained by a bend in a bridge. That whole situation gives me "fake" feel.

All speculation on my part. You're all free to move about the cabin.

elijahg said:

retrogusto said:

dijital said:

Who keeps asking Apple for an even thinner iPhone with worse battery life? I’ve never met anyone with those requirements.

Even thinner? They’ve been getting thicker with basically every new release for the past 11 years, and this is what keeps me from upgrading until I absolutely have to. Nobody wishes for worse battery life, of course, but I would love it if they could make something with the same thickness (6.9mm), weight (129g) and battery life as the iPhone 6 from 2014 (or in that ballpark) but with more modern specs. And maybe they should devote more resources to developing really great battery cases for people who don’t mind the bulk but need more battery life.

On behalf of all of those who want a phone to be functional and useful for a longer period of time versus being 2mm thinner, how is 2mm thinner with 25% less battery life an acceptable tradeoff to you? 

Not that I'm a heavy user but I could never live with that. I have friends who have no worries every getting down to 20%-30% battery life and it's not the end of the day. None of them carry a charger aren't worried. It seems to work for them but I'd have Percentage Anxiety. Apple probably dropped the MagSafe Battery because non-mini MagSafe phones don't really need it for most users. Or Apple says they don't.

Apple didn't deliver the mini with the battery life I wanted. I compromised because the compact size was better than the other phones, even though it wasn't a 5S. With a car charger and a MagSafe battery on occasion, I can get through a 12 hour shift with no anxiety.

dijital said:

Who keeps asking Apple for an even thinner iPhone with worse battery life? I’ve never met anyone with those requirements.

I've known a few business types, especially some women, how prefer or would prefer to keep the phone in an inside breast pocket but don't due to the weight, or do and lament the weight. I don't know how many customers like that there are and that they're enough to help sustain a model.

charlesn said:

retrogusto said:

 I would love it if they could make something with the same thickness (6.9mm), weight (129g) and battery life as the iPhone 6 from 2014 (or in that ballpark) but with more modern specs. And maybe they should devote more resources to developing really great battery cases for people who don’t mind the bulk but need more battery life.

See, that's the thing, people say they want this or that, but then Apple offers it and they don't buy it.

No It's not. it's speculative bullshit. Tell me how many customers said they wanted a smaller phone and didn't buy it. How many? How many said that but didn't buy?

I can more accurately speculate that everyone or nearly everyone who wanted a smaller phone bought a mini. Because the minis sold. Wasn't enough in either case. It's possible that some people wanting a smaller phone weren't happy with what Apple delivered. It happens. That's not the same as your implication of "people say". That line is trotted out a lot and never with any substantiation other than Apple dropped the line. The sales weren't to Apple's liking. That doesn't support your "people say" premise at all.

Maybe @retrogusto will say why he didn't buy a mini. Maybe it was as you stated. Or maybe what Apple shipped wasn't he's dream phone for some other reason than size and weight.

I've got a mini and a MagSafe battery pack. I take it with me on days that will see heavy use of the phone. There will be people who like this rumored phone, if it comes to be. Like the minis, there may not be enough to keep the phone a contender. The Back Pocket Brigade won't be happy. A phone as thin as rumored won't survive many back pockets, even if it has a Ti frame.

We'll never see the likes of the minis, and mores the pity. A niche market Apple chose not to sustain. Good point about any improvements in battery life for the 17Air being incorporated into other phones.

pichael said:

What a bunch of idiots, especially using spray paint on a building. Surely they will need to use some chemicals to remove the spray paint now. 

I can not condone any acts of vandalism. 

I condone neither vandalism nor the gross stupidity demonstrated in this action by the actor and his adoring fans.