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Kuminga said:

bulk001 said:

Kuminga said:

bulk001 said:

Kuminga said:

This is a great article.

I read through the complaint because I work for an investment firm and had to do it as soon as it came out.

i have to say, this complaint is simply filled with pure idiocy and outdated claims, I am not a lawyer but it’s hard to see how the DOJ can prevail here.

This complaint is a perfect example and great argument for small government and how stupid and outdated these people are quite honestly.


The 5 percent stock loss today is a buying opportunity.

The problem is that Jim Cramer agrees with you! (Sorry, insider investor joke where you always do the opposite of what Cramer recommends)

Jim Cramer gets a bad rap honestly. He is quite well respected in our world .

They go ahead and buy buy buy!  

Just for context, DOJ went after Microsoft about 20 years ago and they had a much better case honestly than this one.

Today, 20 year later, same day government wants to interfere again with Apple, 

Microsoft soft is at an all time high

I’m sure Apple is thrilled with you insightful investment analysis /s 

Kuminga said:

bulk001 said:

Kuminga said:

bulk001 said:

fastasleep said:

bulk001 said:

Only time will tell if you are right. Why don’t you reschedule this post for an update in 2 years. Personally my money is on the DOJ who, you know has actual lawyers and stuff, as opposed to two writers of an Apple blog. 

If only Apple had a few actual lawyers and stuff.

Couple of thoughts, it isn’t Apple’s lawyers that AppleInsider is quoting. I doubt that Apple’s lawyer's see this as this simple or are so cavalier.  Further, Apple couldn’t win a case where Cook made statements on a QER which is typically covered by a catch all disclaimer that is almost lawsuit proof and paid out close to a half billion dollars that AppleInsider then blew off as insignificant. They couldn’t hold off the EU regulations and also just got hit with a 1.84B Euro fine. Their brilliant legal minds also sued a tiny company with a pear logo and ended up having to help redesign their logo given the public blowback. They lost the Apple Watch case and settled with Qualcomm. This is their top notch legal team that they are bringing to this fight?

The EU if you noticed, generally  only goes after American Companies and never their own companies.

Greensill, Wirecard AG are two examples where they didn’t just go after companies, but shut them down. Glencore they heavily fined for taking bribes. That aside, the reason they probably do is that American companies could be coming in thinking they can do whatever they want while most EU companies are playing by the rules?

You just made my point. Those companies are not Google or Apple. Also Notice the EU never does anything bs China,….

Your  point was that the EU generally only goes after American companies. That is not true. I gave you three examples where you were wrong. Not sure how that “makes your point”. As for China, they have put limits on Huawei 5G equipment so one can hardly say it “never does anything” against Chinese firms (your sentence was a little vague so I could be misquoting you there.)

Kuminga said:

This is a great article.

I read through the complaint because I work for an investment firm and had to do it as soon as it came out.

i have to say, this complaint is simply filled with pure idiocy and outdated claims, I am not a lawyer but it’s hard to see how the DOJ can prevail here.

This complaint is a perfect example and great argument for small government and how stupid and outdated these people are quite honestly.


The 5 percent stock loss today is a buying opportunity.

The problem is that Jim Cramer agrees with you! (Sorry, insider investor joke where you always do the opposite of what Cramer recommends)

nubus said:

coolfactor said:

Apple+EU has been a disaster for years. Apple spent 10 years on promising before finally being forced to USB-C. Now EU has had enough with politicians hitting Apple in several ways causing disruptions to hardware and software. Apple is taking a beating every week.

Apple never promised USB-C for 10 years. What nonsense it that?

Well.. it is in an interview with Greg Joswiak from Apple that they worked 10 years against EU on this:
https://www.zdnet.com/article/iphone-will-get-usb-c-charging-as-apple-says-it-will-comply-with-eu-law/

As the article also states it all started in 2009 when Apple signed a proposal for using a common charger to reduce e-waste (EN/IEC 6268). Obviously Apple never delivered on that but allowed other companies to sell dongles so that users could connect to the common charger. That is not how e-waste is reduced. So - either 10 or 15 years.

Oh snap - facts!  

fastasleep said:

bulk001 said:

Only time will tell if you are right. Why don’t you reschedule this post for an update in 2 years. Personally my money is on the DOJ who, you know has actual lawyers and stuff, as opposed to two writers of an Apple blog. 

If only Apple had a few actual lawyers and stuff.

Couple of thoughts, it isn’t Apple’s lawyers that AppleInsider is quoting. I doubt that Apple’s lawyer's see this as this simple or are so cavalier.  Further, Apple couldn’t win a case where Cook made statements on a QER which is typically covered by a catch all disclaimer that is almost lawsuit proof and paid out close to a half billion dollars that AppleInsider then blew off as insignificant. They couldn’t hold off the EU regulations and also just got hit with a 1.84B Euro fine. Their brilliant legal minds also sued a tiny company with a pear logo and ended up having to help redesign their logo given the public blowback. They lost the Apple Watch case and settled with Qualcomm. This is their top notch legal team that they are bringing to this fight?