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9secondkox2 said:

bulk001 said:

9secondkox2 said:

If they do this, might as well add touch capability to Macs. Fair play. 

Doubt it happens though. 

So… it would dual  boot operating systems? Run one virtually? Go Mac OS only for iPad Pro and iPad os is for lesser iPads? All kinds of conundrums. Especially if they go through the trouble of adding Mac OS only to handicap it by running mobile apps. Sheesh. What a mess. 

And as I opened with, apple has long mss as obtained the products have different reasons to exist. If they go and add Mac OS to an iPad, they should add touch to macs. Otherwise it seems like artificially limiting macs when they’ve clearly figured out how to make Mac OS touch viable. 

I think they should. But it would potentially make laptops a lot more expensive. iPad already have a touch screen so it is the os that has to change. Also, as someone suggested it could more be with a keyboard and mouse in “iPadmacOS” and touch in iPadOS. I have a touchscreen PC and never used the touch screen as you have to swivel the keyboard out of the way to make it work. 

It would cost less than $2 per to add multitouch to the Larger screen macs and displays. You have sub $100 chrome books with touch screens for crying out loud. Apple wouldn’t need to raise prices at all. Ventura is already a touch friendly UI. 

I’d welcome s touch screen before I’d welcome max is on iPad. 

9secondkox2 said:

If they do this, might as well add touch capability to Macs. Fair play. 

Doubt it happens though. 

So… it would dual  boot operating systems? Run one virtually? Go Mac OS only for iPad Pro and iPad os is for lesser iPads? All kinds of conundrums. Especially if they go through the trouble of adding Mac OS only to handicap it by running mobile apps. Sheesh. What a mess. 

And as I opened with, apple has long mss as obtained the products have different reasons to exist. If they go and add Mac OS to an iPad, they should add touch to macs. Otherwise it seems like artificially limiting macs when they’ve clearly figured out how to make Mac OS touch viable. 

wood1208 said:

Not happening. If Apple feels MacOS should be ported to iPad in whatever size/features version suitable for iPad then Apple will port on all iPads and remove iPadOS. Unless there is a MacOS for MAC and iPad; Apple not going to do half hazard job. Easily confuse consumer base.

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DAalseth said:

To me this smells more like the kind of story Apple itself would seed in order to ferret out leakers. My guess someone is about to find their keycard access revoked. 

That or it’s a misinterpretation of apple working on cross-platform app compatibility.

Personally, I’d love it if my Ipad Pro had more feature parity with MacOS. I’ve said for several years that iPads are being constrained by iPadOS. That’s still true and many things that they technically can do are kind of kludgy and much more difficult than they are on MacOS

"That or it’s a misinterpretation of apple working on cross-platform app compatibility." => Apple already has that.  It's called Catalyst

"Personally, I’d love it if my Ipad Pro had more feature parity with MacOS." => Dan Moren posted an article regarding the vision behind the iPad and he summarized it well:

"When the iPad came out, it felt like a burgeoning third revolution, but a decade-on much of that potential has been squandered. None of this is to say that the iPad hasn’t been a success, but that it hasn’t been all that it could be. The real opportunity is for the iPad to be the best of both worlds: taking the modern aspects of iOS and combining what worked well on the Mac, and turning it into a device that’s more than the sum of its parts."

https://www.macworld.com/article/1339589/ipad-isnt-a-big-iphone-or-a-touch-screen-mac.html

Catalyst enables UIKit apps - iPhone and iPad apps - to run on macOS with a minimum of work. macOS has an implementation of UIKit (essentially code libraries that apps are built with) to make Catalyst apps work, especially on Intel. For ARM, macOS basically hosts the entire iOS environment stack and unmodified iPhone and iPad apps can run on macOS/ARM. Some developers are intransigent. A lot of them don't want even that and prevent their unmodified apps to run on macOS. They surely want money for that. Anyways, I digress.

There isn't anything to go the other way. For FCPX, LPX to run on iPadOS with a minimum of changes in FCP itself, Apple would have to have iPadOS host an implementation of AppKit - the macOS code library - to make that happen. An iPadOS AppKit library would change UI conventions from WIMP to Touch. Apple doesn't want to do that yet, because unknown reasons. The biggest one is that only recently are there iPads with enough RAM to do it, and perhaps even more recently, some iPads don't have the storage performance to really do it. The hard way is to rewrite FCP in some combination of Swift+ObjC+SwiftUI+UIKit.

Apple has an incredible amount of balls that they are juggling. FCPX surely has a bunch of crappy C++ code with Objective-C wrapped around it with AppKit code wrapped around everything. Then, there are probably custom Intel, PPC, and ARM machine code in it to make some things fast. On top of this, they are transitioning to Swift and SwiftUI, both themselves are moving targets. It's an incredibly capital intensive effort to get everything to Swift and SwiftUI. Basically a nation state effort.