nhughes

GeorgeBMac said:

nhughes said:

GeorgeBMac said:

Nope!  I'm not buying it:
That limits the new phones to forcing people to choose between either a high-end X upgrade or a large screen.   To many people like the 6, 7 & 8 sized phones to force them up into ultra-premium to get one.  

Plus, it's time for an SE update.  THAT should be more interesting than anything else -- there are so many ways to go there -- particularly if/when Apple propagates FaceId throughout its line up.

Another interesting thing to watch is what happens to the iPad Mini.  For many uses its the perfect size.  But, like the SE, its internals are getting further and further out of date.

SE update is expected next spring. It won't have an edge-to-edge display — it will be a budget model.

Thanks!  that gives me yet another configuration to consider:
- an SE for music in the car -- particularly if I upgrade to an Apple Play 'radio'.
- an iPad at home
- an Apple Watch with LTE for exercise.

And, amazingly, I could get all three for about the price of an X.

Eric_WVGG said:

nhughes said:

GeorgeBMac said:

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SE update is expected next spring. It won't have an edge-to-edge display — it will be a budget model.

What’s this based on? I haven’t seen a single rumor yet.

GeorgeBMac said:

Nope!  I'm not buying it:
That limits the new phones to forcing people to choose between either a high-end X upgrade or a large screen.   To many people like the 6, 7 & 8 sized phones to force them up into ultra-premium to get one.  

Plus, it's time for an SE update.  THAT should be more interesting than anything else -- there are so many ways to go there -- particularly if/when Apple propagates FaceId throughout its line up.

Another interesting thing to watch is what happens to the iPad Mini.  For many uses its the perfect size.  But, like the SE, its internals are getting further and further out of date.

midwestapplefan said:

Oh how nice.  We can post comments here but the one yesterday on the locked phone for the Texas shooter was closed because it was too political.  Porn is more appropriate than politics I guess. 

Soli said:

nhughes said:

Soli said:

nhughes said:

Soli said:

2) You can't have AR without a camera, but as we saw with Google Glass a camera just makes it creepy. Can Apple overcome that stigma?

I've been thinking about this a lot lately, at least in terms of a wearable camera on the Apple Watch. Using the Series 3 with LTE, without your iPhone nearby, is a great experience except for one glaring omission: the lack of camera. And yet, having a discreet camera on your wrist is indeed creepy.

There is also the problem of which way does the camera face? Toward you for FaceTime/selfies? Or away from you, to take (probably low-quality) pics? Or do they do two cameras, or some sort of clunky physical rotating camera?

I wonder if the solution both of these problems is the same: One camera that faces the user (embedded in the screen, if they could ever do that). This allows for FaceTime and selfies and the like, and then taking pictures of the world around you would require some sort of broad gesture (ie, telling the watch to take a picture, but the image isn't actually snapped until you rotate your wrist outward in a rather obvious motion, then turn your wrist back to view the image). I wonder if having a broad gesture, combined with some sort of visual cue (a light flash or whatever) would turn down the "creep" factor, letting people around you know that you are snapping pictures.

Perhaps the solution for this with augmented reality glasses would be something similar — a process that requires the user to press a button on the device itself, so it is clear to those around you that you are interacting with your glasses, accompanied perhaps by a flash of light or something that says "hey, picture time." It's not perfect, but it's arguably more obvious than someone on the train acting like they are using their phone for other purposes while they are actually snapping pics.

Cameras in everything, including our glasses, are seemingly inevitable. And younger generations won't care as much. But we're still in some sort of uncomfortable limbo — which is precisely why the Apple TV Siri remote requires you to hold a button to invoke Siri. I suspect Apple will continue to go slow and tread lightly. Perhaps the first Apple AR glasses won't even allow the user to capture pictures. The first iPad didn't have a camera.

If we're talking about a FaceTime camera in the glasses, I'm not sure that's possible due to distance. If we're talking about in the Watch, then perhaps it could be placed within the display once we move to micro-LED or its successor where there's a lot of extra space between the bright LEDs for other types of "pixels" to reside. Building it into the display may also remove much of the stigma over having a glossy, curved lens pointing at someone.

I don't think there would be a FaceTime camera in the glasses, no. But it would make sense in the watch (even if the battery life would be abysmal — just a simple phone call has only an hour of battery life). And one camera in the watch for both FaceTime and "outward" facing pics would be aesthetically pleasing, simple to use, and actually help cut down on the "creep" factor. I guess society would just have to get used to the idea of someone turning their wrist at you to snap a pic. Seems like a rather obvious motion to me, though. Less discreet than using your phone.

Societies are collectively made up of idiots (and I obviously include myself as part of many societies). There are people on this forums that are "concerned" about the Amazon Echo and AirPod listening for a keyword without understanding that recording is a different task or that they've been using devices in their homes and on their person that have microphones that could be recording and sending data to servers without their knowledge, not to mention camera data, keystrokes, general app use, and screenshots.

It wasn't until too many Mac OS versions ago that Apple even made it so apps would have to ask for access to the data in Contacts nee Address Book, of which I have plenty of data that could be used to steal my identity. For example, to make access to a CC easier I've set up that company's phone number in Contacts with a semicolon to Wait, and then my entire 16 digit card number so I can press a button to have it automatically sent as tones for authentication without having to pull out my wallet and type the number in manually. Before they did that I'm not sure I really considered that my Address Book and pretty much everything else under my User Account '~/'  and Library '~/Library/' was readable by random apps I may install.