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caddyman33 said:

Cheap hubs follow no guidelines, expect troubles 

Not true. They actually follow standards. The expensive once frequently do not. Apple is the biggest company that does not follow standards. It did not even in SSD disks areas years ago using proprietary controller that was on board rather than with memory like everybody else did. hence you had to buy "special" SSD just to satisfy bad idea design that did not make for performance anything, but kept you with buying overpriced upgrades  from Apple. And unfortunately in area of SSD Apple is not even near brands like Crucial or Samsung.

auxio said:

crowley said:

Lol. Don’t worry about the lack of ports, just use a hub, they say.

Because the dozens of cheap USB-C hubs on Amazon are all flawlessly engineered to specifications. /s

This is exactly why Apple has had hardware compatibility programs in the past, and why I typically buy the accessories listed in the Apple store.  The time and headache wasted with poor quality accessories just isn't worth the few bucks of savings.

As far as cheap devices they are not poor quality and you are wrong. Many of them are higher quality than Apple (and to break news to you Apple does not manufacture them, but stamps it with its brand while electronics is manufactured and designed as standard by others "cheap" once). Those are not Mac computers, but standardized protocol devices - hubs. Same with printers. All of them work on Linux flawlessly including "Apple" yet Apple engineering cannot figure it out to make work the same way.

"Other users report Apple support staff telling them to try Apple-certified hubs."

What else do I need certified by Apple? Work style and life? It worked so do not break it. This has been going with many devices for last years. BTW they broke support for their own devices like Apple Fax USB dongle years ago so, do not tell me that Apple certified would work over time either. Should I wait for Apple certified printer

Arrogance at Apple is astounding. That is why I am not missing it much while I switched to Linux Mint desktop and converted Apple MacBook Air into "MintBook Air". But I am sorry for people who still have to cope with that Apple people arrogant attitude.

Right. Put it on every toy, but not on Linux when this system as desktop is mature now and supported even by some banks (yes we can work from Linux). When Apple is gonna get smart and compiles this software to be available in Linux stores? So far someone wrote port of Apple Music for subscription, but obviously it is not the same as some protocols are disabled. Seriously, not being able to use Apple Music turns users on Linux to 7Digital and Spotify services, but it is not as good.

OutdoorAppDeveloper said:

Apple Computer: Nice products but you wouldn't want to work there.

Yes and that is my friend who came from east coast NYC finance learned too. Even their development process is weak comparing to what we use in big software shops in finance. If you do not know what is big, one floor of financial company has more operations line of code than entire Microsoft. I co-owned literally 2 million lines of code of trading system. Small piece of what else was on the floor. When he said of their weak process and ow to fix it they did not agree so, he played to leave that garbage Now Zoox pays probably better and has better process as Amazon project. Apple as much as achieved top in technology has a lot to learn to be more efficient. Keyword is automated testing and avoiding repeat mistakes in code. If they want people to work on weekends because management does not want investing into automated testing and people have to do it on time that normally would be their private time then Apple will have to pay more to those engineers.