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AppleExposed said:

And no Apple TV version.....

Which is pretty stupid of Apple not to try to promote...

boltsfan17 said:

AppleExposed said:

For what? So I can play some cheap iPhone games for free?

Unless Apple starts developing its own games and getting 3rd parties on board to bring console games to the next Apple TV, then who cares if I can play the paid version of Angry Birds and other indie titles?

Older console games could be possible on the ATV4. Newer console games are pretty much impossible on the ATV4. It's not nearly powerful enough. I wish Apple could work out a deal with Nintendo to bring some older classics to the Apple TV. 

The A10X benches faster than the Tegra X1.

https://gfxbench.com/compare.jsp?benchmark=gfx40&did1=26084812&os1=Android&api1=gl&hwtype1=GPU&hwname1=NVIDIA(R)+Tegra(R)+X1&did2=50838650&os2=iOS&api2=metal&hwtype2=iGPU&hwname2=Apple+Inc.+Apple+A10X+GPU

So the aTV5 is Switch class as a console.

cgWerks said:

melgross said:

With all the cheer about this little rise, it needs to be understood in the context of where it began, which was at the $233 level, and moving higher.

Yeah... I must be missing something about this article. It isn't even close to where it was before the letter.

Mike Wuerthele said:
Invoking the guy's name is not against the forum rules.

At this point, I'm a bit unclear about the rules (or at least where the line is). Politics is part of life and numerous articles are quite political in nature, as are some of the comments.

I'm not sure I get what's wrong with that, as I'd think the point would be... that for some reason, some people can't seem to politely discuss politics or religion, but then why not police/ban the bad behavior, not eliminate those topics (which are, IMO, the most important of topics there are)?

I get that it's a tech forum, and not wanting to run too wildly off-topic, but if the article itself is related... then we just turn comments off or pretend it isn't political? And, it isn't like the bad-behavior of some is limited to political articles either.

I guess it's your forum, but it would be nice to know if there is some real line, or if is it like speeding tickets, where some small percentage get smacked down to keep us all on our toes?

The trump reference had zero to do with AAPL's recovery and was political trolling.

MacPro said:

mac_128 said:

MacPro said:

mac_128 said:

MacPro said:

Seems like yesterday!  It was tough going at first but then in the November of that year, we had a ton of them delivered for the "Test Drive a Macintosh" campaign which went very well.  Our clients could take a Mac home for the night.  Many 'tests' converted to sales even though the buyers had no actual use or need, they were just so damn cool.

November 8, 1984

We’re those 128K or 512K Macs?

It is all a bit fuzzy but the 128 was released in September and this campaign in November was no doubt to bolster its sales after the lackluster sales of the original Mac.  We were still shifting lots of Apple ][s, Apple ///s and several Lisas at that point.

I think you mean the 512K was released in September. I seem to recall reading it was the 512K which was really needed to re-launch the Macintosh to the public for that campaign. The 128K just simply didn't have enough memory to use with one 400K disk, and most weren't buying the external drive at the $2500 price point. That extra RAM allowed the entire application programs to be held in memory along with large documents and files, not to mention actual multi-tasking. I think by the time the 512K was released, the Lisa 2 was already using the Macintosh emulator too, followed shortly by the Lisa being rebranded Macintosh XL. Those must have been interesting times to be in that business. Do tell -- how many Apple ///s did you personally repair by dropping it on the floor? Ha

None thankfully but those Lisas were a slipped disk waiting to happen!  Yep, the 512k you are right but they also released a revised 128k same time according to Wikipedia.

It was an unbelievably fascinating time to have owned Apple dealerships for sure.  A few years later we were into the DTP era and the roof came off.

Upgrading 128Ks to 512K was a college side hustle.

AppleZulu said:

Seems like the “eventually” part is the thing that all the “if Steve Jobs was still alive” people don’t want to remember. There really weren’t any instant successes in Apple’s history. It’s almost always a new thing that gets incremental upgrades until it becomes the brilliant thing everybody thinks it was in the first place. 

Then we forget all that, and when we watch it happening again in real time, It’s all “Apple is doomed, Tim Cook is an idiot, and if Steve Jobs were alive, we’d have an instant success every six months!”

Eventually may be a given but not in any sort of good timeframe.  Take for example the stirrup...something completely obvious in hindsight but humans have been riding horses since 4500BC and the stirrup on a treed saddle didn't appear until somewhere between 206BC and 302 AD in China.  It didn't make it to Europe until 6th century AD.

Without Jobs and the Mac we could have been using ever better versions of command line interfaces and textual user interfaces (curses) for a couple more decades.  That a GUI is obvious hindsight ignores that if the Lisa and Xerox had been the only early examples and market failures its possible IBM PCs and Unix wouldn't have moved to GUIs.

Likewise full screen smartphones are "obvious" in hindsight but without Jobs and the iPhone we would have been treated to ever better versions of the blackberry and stylus based UIs.

Jobs was unique in that he jumpstarted two major computer interface paradigm shifts.  Three if you count voice interaction with virtual assistants which we probably should.

He didn't just skate to where the puck would be but knocked it in that direction when everyone else wanted it to go somewhere else.