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Rayz2016 said:

randominternetperson said:

"It's unclear how the company will air future TV shows. While it could continue restricting them to Apple Music, that might hamper their audience, since many people will likely want to watch on an HDTV but not have access to an Apple TV. There's no way of watching Apple Music video on devices such as a Roku or Chromecast."

That is the challenge, isn't it?  Apple is the only entrant into this market that a hardware provider first and foremost.  For Apple to be successful in this market I think they're going to have to commit to being available on every hardware platform (exactly like they did with iTunes for Windows).  Let people buy Apple TVs because they are great part of the Apple ecosystem; don't expect people to buy them because they want to see a particular TV show.

A friend of mine took to Facebook a few weeks ago to whine about Carpool Karaoke being exclusive to Apple Music.  I didn't get the big deal since GoT is exclusive to HBO and House of Cards is exclusive to Netflix and The Tick is exclusive to Amazon Prime.  But the difference is that for each of those other ones, once you have a basic box on your TV you can add any of those services instantly for a few bucks.  To do the same for CK, you'd either have to watch it on your iPad or order a new piece of hardware.

This is a very good point. 

That's the entire point of Apple entering this market.  To enhance the stickiness of the Apple ecosystem and drive sales to Apple hardware.

If they make some money on sales of the content great but the intent is to sell more iPads and aTVs.  This is no different than Microsoft and Sony having exclusive content for their respective consoles except for Apple the money is made on the hardware side rather than software side.

Why on earth would Apple spend money to make Roku better?  The only reason Apple has iTunes on Windows isn't to sell music to Windows users but to support iPhone sales to Windows users.

If Apple manages to create the next GoTs then you damn well better buy an aTV to watch on your 4K TV just like if you want to use FCPX or Xcode you buy a Mac.

My kid started FPV drone racing with the small tiny whoop quads.  $175 sounds like a lot until you start doing any quad stuff.  The total amount we're into is north of $175 and that's for the cheap end of FPV racing.

Granted $120 of it was for the taranis...

Soli said:

Can we get back on topic?

How deep does this corruption go?
Will this affect Samung’s bottom line?
Is this guy an offering while many other guilty parties get to go free?
Does this affect Apple’s dealings with the company?

You COULD google and see that Korea got rid of a president over it...so "how deep" is...actually just business as usual.
Will it affect Samsung?  Nope.
Is he a scapegoat?  Sure.  High profile conviction to show "we are solving corruption".
If stealing IP didn't impact Apple's dealing with Samsung then a Potemkin conviction of some Samsung executives won't either.

All the Koreans I've spoken too have been both surprised and jaded about the whole thing.  Surprised at how far it's gone and jaded in thinking everyone gets a pardon eventually.  Watching Korean TV news and listening to the kibitzing around the table is amusing...at least when I'm not down $200 playing cards with these guys.

Whether Chaebols will go the way of the Zaibatsu's and evolve into Keiretsus remain the be seen.  Drawing too much parallelism between Japan and Korea is not necessarily a good thing to do...

foggyhill said:

nht said:

foggyhill said:

andrewj5790 said:

Consumer reports... eh... the same folks who ran the flawed tests on the new MacBook Pro. Major grain of salt. I’ve never used one of these machines, nor would I sully my fingers with one, but... consistency demands that I look askance at this after my reaction to the MBP battery thing. 

Askance at 90000 people reporting... What? The margin of error if they're sampling the general pop of buyers, which is probable given the numbers, are very very low.

This is actually a much better feedback than their reviews... Or the trash Verge review that lauded that crap computer.

Even if you go by the fact that people that have problems tend to report more, the breadth of this survey mitigates this enough that it gives an indicator good enough to actually to make a yay or nay decision.

I find it hard to believe they got 90,000 Surface respondents when they have to send out 4M questionnaires to get 480K responses for cars.  The number of Surface respondents is likely quite low and no cited.  I'm mean shit, with a 6%-12% respondent rate on cars you really think they sent a million or so surveys to Surface owners?

Dream on.

I can get pretty much any result I want from a survey, so yes, the same organization that went for clickbait results on Apple likely has done so again because MS has gained some meager mindshare.

These are the same guys that bought part of Gawker (consumerist) to improve their internet advocacy arm.

So, you got nothing huh.
There is a bias in the fact people with problems report more and in if surface buyers reflect those surveyed, but that's it.
For Surface Pros, numbers sampled are likely low enough and demos differ enough that they can't really say either way.
But, for the mass market Surface laptops, the whole brand they sure can.

If they get at least a thousands surface owner, which shouldn't be hard to do even if they sell like crap, the numbers would be statistically significant.
25% is likely way way more than the numbers they need to declare the results significant for the Surface with their subsampling.

You have to remember that any skewing also happens to other makers, that's relative results in this case still reflect relative satisfactions of users regardless of actual real numbers unless there is a huge disparity between who buys surface laptops and other maker's laptops.

What we have is a 20th century organization looking for relevance in a 21st century environment when most folks looking for information on a product look at reviews posted on Amazon.

An organization that has chased headlines in the past by creating mountains out of molehill issues against the iPhone and MBP. 

Given that they have deliberately skewed results against Apple there is reason not to trust them on pretty much anything tech related.  What are going to say the next time they trash an Apple product because they need hits?

Frankly, if you read CR on any topic you are knowledgeable (computers, cars, whatever) you realize that often they have no clue and nobody knowledgeable would make the same recommendations or have the same concerns about their "issues".

Note that the article is also written deceptively...there is the implication that they have 90K Surface owner respondents and they don't indicate either the number of sent surveys, respondents and survey questions.  That leaves the reader completely unable to judge the value of their "findings".  Given those parameters I can show any result I want to fit whatever conclusion I want.

If I were send a survey to 2016 MBP users asking if they had ANY issues with their laptop and scored all respondents who replied yes (I had to buy a dongle, I liked the old keyboard more, I had an issue transferring my old apps and documents, I don't' think understand the touch bar) want to bet I couldn't claim 25% of 2016-2017 MBP owners report problems in the first two years?

Heck, I love my 2017 MBP but it glitched with my Dell USB-C dock that required a firmware update on the Dell.  CR would count me as someone who reported a problem with the new MBP which might be a semi-true statement but pushes a false narrative.  The survey question would be "Have you had any issues with connecting your MBP with any peripherals?".  Yes, but it wasn't really Apple fault.

I have both a Surface Book and current MBP.  That folks have issues with Windows isn't surprising at all and 25% strikes me as low. Windows still has a lot rough edges than MacOS. The hardware has been pretty solid though and I love the hybrid design.  I like my 2017 MBP more though now that it's thinner and lighter than my 2013 MBP and eGPUs are on the horizon.

Oh, in some research circles a handful of respondents can generate "statistically significant" results.  Without also reporting p-value, effect size and even alpha you have no idea what that means.

Also, the article doesn't provide any insight into how other hybrids score.  Don't you think it might have been of interest to know how many hybrid owners reported "problems" and the nature of their problems?  What if hybrid respondents in general had a 50% problem rate?

There are lies, damn lies and statistics. You want to believe these because you dislike Microsoft.  I look at them with suspicion because I don't trust CR after they screwed over Apple to get hits. 

Fuck CR.  Soon enough there will be another Apple hit piece and MS is unimportant these days.  Who cares that MS and Apple were rivals in the last century? 

foggyhill said:

andrewj5790 said:

Consumer reports... eh... the same folks who ran the flawed tests on the new MacBook Pro. Major grain of salt. I’ve never used one of these machines, nor would I sully my fingers with one, but... consistency demands that I look askance at this after my reaction to the MBP battery thing. 

Askance at 90000 people reporting... What? The margin of error if they're sampling the general pop of buyers, which is probable given the numbers, are very very low.

This is actually a much better feedback than their reviews... Or the trash Verge review that lauded that crap computer.

Even if you go by the fact that people that have problems tend to report more, the breadth of this survey mitigates this enough that it gives an indicator good enough to actually to make a yay or nay decision.

I find it hard to believe they got 90,000 Surface respondents when they have to send out 4M questionnaires to get 480K responses for cars.  The number of Surface respondents is likely quite low and no cited.  I'm mean shit, with a 6%-12% respondent rate on cars you really think they sent a million or so surveys to Surface owners?

Dream on.

I can get pretty much any result I want from a survey, so yes, the same organization that went for clickbait results on Apple likely has done so again because MS has gained some meager mindshare.

These are the same guys that bought part of Gawker (consumerist) to improve their internet advocacy arm.