williamlondon

polymnia said:

williamlondon said:

polymnia said:

Yes, good-natured ribbing. That's exactly how I describe it. You might notice the lack of swearing and personal insults. That is one of the tell-tale signs of good-natured discussion. Also a redirection tactic, trying to steer our discussion back to a more civil tone.

I am anxiously awaiting your insightful comments on the article.

At first I considered reporting your angry comments to the moderators, but I'd prefer to let them stand here as a testament to your unpleasantness.

Quick reality check: You do realize we are all here reading serious reporting of unannounced, rumored Apple products of the future, reading the tea leaves that the AI staff diligently uncovers for our consideration. We are a bunch of (mostly) grown (mostly) men who are discussing our Apple tech fantasies with each other. I try to remember those facts while reading and commenting in this imaginative, insightful (inciteful?) and absurd community.

I'm game for reading any Apple tech fantasy you care to indulge yourself in.

I'm not here to be cursed by anyone.

For what it's worth, I sill feel the next AppleTV (which is what this article speculates this filing might describe) should be a 4K unit. I think the time is right. Apple sells 4 different iPhone models that capture 4K video now. So if the studios don't have 4K content yet, there are untold millions of iPhone 6s and iPhone 7 owners who may be producing that content themselves as we speak.

You can describe things any way you want, but that doesn't make them right or real. You can claim offence too by throwing yourself in front of some imagined stream of invective, but that doesn't mean it's real to anyone but your own very creative imagination. Claiming something doesn't make it so, no matter how many times you try. Your sensibilities are not my problem but yours, if AI has a problem with the word FUCK, they can ban it from use on the forum. Until then, it's a word, pure and simple. I never insulted you, I never threw it at you, I never called you names, I never attacked anyone (not anyone) personally (never any ad hominems), I'm very careful about that because it's the first step to kill discourse, no matter what you say or think on the subject. The audacity to claim victim status in a post laden with such self-righteousness and patronisation. Rolling eyes is justified here.

And, as it turns out, my first comment in this thread, on topic, as none of this entire conversation has been, I'll remind you, was this (in reference to the original article), "Perhaps something like an Amazon Echo, using Siri and incorporating Apple Pay (does this make sense?) for sites that don't integrate it on the web or alternatively a simple quick login to Apple Home??" (think about this comment as you read today's article, "Apple allegedly working on Siri stand-alone speaker with HomeKit integration" and then perhaps examine your statement, "we are all here reading serious reporting..." when it was YOU who was the first to broach the "anti-4K" subject in this thread, when there was nothing of the sort to which you were replying)

Instead, as it turns out this "serious conversation" for which you're here and supposedly supporting turns out to be the same old 4K crap over and over and over and over and over again. Remind me exactly what is being added to intelligent conversation that starts with the same old whines, points and arguments we've been reading since the ATV was launched a year ago, which all repeat the same whines of the launch of the ATV2 and 1080p a few short years ago, which all repeat the same whines of .... ? and on and on again.

Finally, shame on both of us for boring the hell out of all other readers of this thread for this disgusting public spat, readers who most likely long ago left this thread, I apologise (to them), and also for the 4K diarrhoea which continues to spew in these forums. I look forward to the day 4K is supported by Apple only to be replaced by the next tech Apple will undoubtedly fail to incorporate into their devices, launching a whole new (by that I mean OLD) set of repeated arguments about Apple not supporting the latest tech in that device. Get in the queue prepared to defend those whiners, it's already filled with familiar and stale arguments ready to be presented as new yet again.

Shame on both of us indeed.

I'm sorry I didn't notice your earlier post.

I'm not against the use of the work 'Fuck'. Its actually one of my favorite.

My beef is with the hostility of your smack down. Suggesting our comments should be banished because they don't meet your standards is what bothers me. I feel any discussion of a future AppleTV is a fair place to discuss 4K. I'm sorry this upsets you. It's interesting to me.

And I'm certainly not in favor of seriousness in regards to future Apple product fantasies.

Anyway, long live 4K!

polymnia said:

profanity-laced screed.

spliff monkey said:

 Not sure why WilliamLondon and others think 4K is so long off. I got into it with him already. Pissing and moaning every time somone makes a suggestion that 4K would be a welcome addition for playback support are the only ones who make the discussion a drag. It's funny how somone mentions something innocuous like 4K and people like WL get their panties in a bunch. Relax bro. You don't have to buy into it. 

That said, you can buy allot of content in 4K. Just search Amazon and you'll see that the major releases are available in 4K. Star Trek, Star Wars, Deadpool, War Craft, Bourne, Mad Max etc etc.  Content availability isn't the problem one might think at this point. Sure not everything will be 4K but I don't think everything has to be. It wasn't that way when 1080 first came around.  Apple just hasn't offered it up yet as a digital download. I'm sure they have just been waiting for Tv's to get into consumer hands and content to ramp up. That time is close, so I don't think hating on people who would like 4K support to go along with their shiny new TV's are being asses. That's the wrong attitude. Looking at you WilliamLondon. Not unlike others, I'll be happy to see some juicy 4K content get released. The color improvement alone is reason enough, even if 1089 resolution is sufficient for a viewer. 

 If you're like me and you're loyal to digital formats and the way Apple does things/ their ecosystem, 4K BD isn't really an option. Few people I know whatch BD as it is.

So I think the fact that 4K is being offered just not by Apple is where the sentiment of "why hasn't Apple done anything about it yet?" Is coming from. It's further reinforced when you get 4K from some of their apps (even though the device doesn't support it? kinda weird) in addition to 4K as a feature for smart tv's via offerings like Netflix. That's all supporting the idea that 4K is on its way and people are salivating for Apples offerings. So hating on those that are eating in anticipation is hugely unproductive and more than just condescending. 

@ polymnia Not like you can buy a "dumb" tv any longer. I tried. It wasn't worth it. I got a cheaper SMART TV than trying to find a dumb TV when I bought my 4K a few months ago. It's just a feature I don't use and I had to get over the idea that I was "wasting" it and/ or that I "wasted money" on the Apple TV when it was already the 2nd 4th gen I purchased and my TV natively supports half of the features the ATV does. Oh well. I love my ATV. Now my smart Tv is redundant. Maybe they'll stop building the features in once people start buying ATVS abd Rokus but I doubt it. It's not like everyone buys into Apple hardware and not everyone cares enough about games and apps to spend the extra $150-$200 when they get a new tv. 

One thing I'd like to see is more games for ATV. This has nothing to do with Apple except maybe the fact that they haven't put their best chip in the ATV yet. But there are so many games I wish would be released in ATV that are only available for iPhone/ iPad. To bad too because the big screen with a controller. Mmmm. Makes for some great gaming. Just short on "blockbuster" game titles. 

polymnia said:

nolamacguy said:

jason98 said:

4k finally? Had to skip the 4th generation because it was missing. It is kind of absurd situation, you can record 4k on iPhone, but can't watch it in full resolution.

the 4th gen was still a major upgrade, purely for the apps. i can't imagine skipping it over lack of 4k. first, because i don't have a 4k tv or see one i want to buy. second, because i don't want to pay extra for 4k content. and third, because i prefer shooting on my iPhone at 1080p w/ 60 FPS.

by the time those points are addressed there will likely be a 5th gen...and in all the meanwhile ill have enjoyed real world value from the apps i use every week.

I was surprised to get all the way to the end of the comments before finding the 4K hate.