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Apple expected to ship 100M 6.1" LCD iPhone units priced at $700-$800 in late 2018
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FCC Chairman Ajit Pai reveals Net Neutrality repeal plan, vote on Dec. 14
michael madsen said:kerpow said:Good. We don't need the government involved in managing the Internet. Everyone worried about this wrecking the Internet are seeing imaginary monsters in the dark.tylersdad said:Let's be clear: Prior to this decision, ISPs were allowed to do exactly what you describe, but they didn't.And if all the ISP's do?tylersdad said:If an ISP does, you just switch ISPs.
I was actually in favor of net neutrality until the old FCC board declared Internet access a right and wanted to increase the universal coverage fee.
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FCC Chairman Ajit Pai reveals Net Neutrality repeal plan, vote on Dec. 14
1STnTENDERBITS said:tylersdad said:hattig said:Bad luck America.
Services are going to be tiered to hell and back as soon as they can do that.
Oh, I'm sure the dross will still be available for all to see, and 'approved content' will be on the cheaper tiers as well.
But most service providers exist in localised monopolies, so without competition they will gauge you if you want streaming services they don't provide themselves, or news sources that aren't favoured, and so on. Oh, you want to do online gaming? That's only available on the $100pm tier.
Let's be clear: Prior to this decision, ISPs were allowed to do exactly what you describe, but they didn't. If an ISP does, you just switch ISPs.
Example: Tylersdad has a 25 Mbps (Tier 1) connection and pays $50/month. For $10 more per month, he can get a 50 Mbps (Tier 2) connection. For $20 more than Tier 2 he can get 75 Mbps for $80 per month. That's tiered service. That has nothing to do with net neutrality.
Here's what the repeal of net neutrality can get you:
Tylersdad likes to stream movies to his Apple TV, likes to watch Netflix on his iPad, and game through his Steam account on his iMac. Under net neutrality, no matter what he's doing he gets the same speed at the same cost. Without net neutrality, ISP can charge for tiered access to traffic -different from tiered service- based on sites, type of traffic, or any other parameter they decide. So in this new paradigm, if Tylersdad wants to stream movies on his Apple TV he has to pay $50 bucks for basic internet package (BIP) + $15 for Tier 1 streaming. Tier 1 covers streaming to ATV, Roku, Fire Sticks, etc. but does not include Netflix or Amazon Prime streaming. For that you need to move up to Tier 2 streaming which is $25 extra. Tylersdad likes Steam. Can't stream things like Steam or Youtube on rinky dink Tier 2 though. You gotta step up to Tier 3 Popular Traffic for an extra $50 per month. Oh, and certain sites can only be accessed from Tier 3 traffic. Sites like Apple.com or Appleinsider.com. Mind you that's on top of your basic internet charge.
To be fair, my example is a bit of hyperbole but nothing in it is out of the realm of possibility without net neutrality. Again, net neutrality is about your traffic, not your overall speed.
Here's a visual representation.
If they did, they would lose customers and the free market would likely respond with ISPs that don’t have such ridiculous pricing.
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FCC Chairman Ajit Pai reveals Net Neutrality repeal plan, vote on Dec. 14
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Apple's Denise Young Smith to leave Inclusion & Diversity post by end of 2017
Mike Wuerthele said:Okay, gang. I've got the keys tonight, so we're going to leave comments open -- until things get out of hand.
Don't be jerks.
It's shame she's leaving. She actually had the courage to make an honest statement--followed by a cowardly and obviously forced retraction.