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discountopinion said:

Fitness+ for me is like ATV+.. a hockey stick of improvements, slow at first and then accelerating.

I think Apple is potentially missing an opportunity with Fitness+ to cross sell AppleTV devices. We use AppleTV and a large screen TV as the primary workout device for Fitness+. When we first started to use it we immediately exercised together wearing apple watches but only one of us got the heart beat on screen.

I think the missed opportunity is that the combo Fitness+ & AppleTV & Apple Watch is like the Nintendo Switch for fitness and very social. Yes they are addressing the social element using the sharing feature for remote people but they still have not addressed the at home group use case of multiple heart bars on screen with peer competition etc.

Apple TV devices are priced competitively and could potentially be a nice bundle for home fitness for families where there are Apple Watches. This could enable Apple to keep a toehold in the living room and not lose it completely to Amazon that is now launching own brand smart TVs with Alexa built in. Apple Fitness+ is a powerful sticky Trojan horse and Amazon would likely have to buy Peleton to compete in the longer term.

StrangeDays said:

rob53 said:

"Frans Rosen, a bug bounty hunter for security firm Detectify" and the title calls him a researcher? He's a hacker, plain and simple. True security researchers don't allow what they're doing to impact people outside their local testing net. I don't care if Apple gave him some money, I'd like to see how many people he affected so he can use that money to pay them for breaking the system.

If it’s a public facing system it’s fair game to test on within reason, which this sounds to be. It isn’t like he launched a DoS attack on it. I’d rather have him discover it than a malicious user.