clarker99

avon b7 said:

clarker99 said:

avon b7 said:

clarker99 said:

As per usual folks pop up and cleary dont get that Apple doesnt need a ‘new’ mid-range device every year. Apple maintains higher prices at the premium end to prop up its amazing gray market. People fundamentally do not understand Apple’s pricing strategy. It is all about maintaining brand/price integrity. Apple’s trade in program is also about controlling the gray market prices. If Apple wants to give $250 for an iPhone 6s trade-in it sets a floor for 2nd hand iPhone value. Why sell it for less if Apple will give $250. 

Meanwhile, the iOS install base continues to grow.

We understand.

However, It's not what Apple wants. It's what consumers want. 

The problem:

Three years of stagnant growth. Two consecutive YoY, double digit drops in iPhone shipments. Iterative upgrades. Price increases. Drop off in satisfaction at Apple Retail. Fierce competition.

The solution?:

Price adjustments
Competitive hardware
Retail improvements
Business model changes

That last point began to shape in 2017. The 'limited period' increased trade-in value from 2018 (a last-minute emergency measure) is still applicable over five months later. For 2019 I expect further changes.

Remove China from the numbers and everything is fine.  But keep up the narrative that Apple doesnt know what its doing ߙ䦬t;br>

If I removed China everything wouldn't be fine. First, the markets would throw a wobbly on Apple, the likes of which you have never seen. Second. That last minute extended and increased trade in value isn't only applicable in China. That tells us the slowdown might have worse been in China but definitely wasn't limited to China.

The narrative that Apple doesn't know what it's doing doesn't exist. Tim Cook went on record as saying they miscalculated.

Apple took the risks but knew them 

sigh. It was largely China. That is well known and Tim acknowledged things got better at the end of the quarter.They are adding users, which really is the neglected narrative. Which means  people are buying iPhones.  Apple doesnt care if they are new models, gray market or hand me down otherwise they would sell cheaper ‘new’ phones. People just dont get it.  

Apple is not going to lower their prices in USA or other wealthier countries. Price is not the problem. If it was, Apple would have been dead years ago.

avon b7 said:

clarker99 said:

As per usual folks pop up and cleary dont get that Apple doesnt need a ‘new’ mid-range device every year. Apple maintains higher prices at the premium end to prop up its amazing gray market. People fundamentally do not understand Apple’s pricing strategy. It is all about maintaining brand/price integrity. Apple’s trade in program is also about controlling the gray market prices. If Apple wants to give $250 for an iPhone 6s trade-in it sets a floor for 2nd hand iPhone value. Why sell it for less if Apple will give $250. 

Meanwhile, the iOS install base continues to grow.

We understand.

However, It's not what Apple wants. It's what consumers want. 

The problem:

Three years of stagnant growth. Two consecutive YoY, double digit drops in iPhone shipments. Iterative upgrades. Price increases. Drop off in satisfaction at Apple Retail. Fierce competition.

The solution?:

Price adjustments
Competitive hardware
Retail improvements
Business model changes

That last point began to shape in 2017. The 'limited period' increased trade-in value from 2018 (a last-minute emergency measure) is still applicable over five months later. For 2019 I expect further changes.

Remove China from the numbers and everything is fine.  But keep up the narrative that Apple doesnt know what its doing 🙄

As per usual folks pop up and cleary dont get that Apple doesnt need a ‘new’ mid-range device every year. Apple maintains higher prices at the premium end to prop up its amazing gray market. People fundamentally do not understand Apple’s pricing strategy. It is all about maintaining brand/price integrity. Apple’s trade in program is also about controlling the gray market prices. If Apple wants to give $250 for an iPhone 6s trade-in it sets a floor for 2nd hand iPhone value. Why sell it for less if Apple will give $250. 

Meanwhile, the iOS install base continues to grow.

So much for premium priced Pixel devices? Are these replacing the 3/3 XL? You can still buy a 3/3 XL for $250 more than the 3a/3a XL. 

What is happening here?

With young kids who love Disney, Pixar, Marvel, Star Wars etc. This is a no brainer for me.  Guessing $9.99 in Canada or $100/yr. Take my money, well worth it for the hours my family will watch it.