83-year-old woman sues Apple after walking into glass retail store door

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  • buzzzbuzzz Posts: 84member
    My own sister crashed through a glass door as a kid. And I saw a guy walk into a bus shelter that was made of glass. Neither broke anything however. Stuff always happens like that went you are not paying attention to where you are going or what's in front of you. This reminds me of the woman who sued a mall because she fell into a fountain.
  • solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
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    Originally Posted by Buzzz View Post


    This reminds me of the woman who sued a mall because she fell into a fountain.



    It wasn't this woman, was it?
  • aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,582member
    I'm sorry, but I find this whole thing hilarious.
  • buzzzbuzzz Posts: 84member
    Yep that's her. LOL
  • kmareikmarei Posts: 66member
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    Originally Posted by hmm View Post


    All I have to say is.... don't believe everything you read on the internet. Also at that age it's possible that her vision and depth perception are pretty bad.



    But then if her vision is not what it once was, and neither is her depth perception

    Maybe walking alone is no longer an option for her

    I don't think it's fair to sue apple because her eyesight has gone bad

    To the average human being, this glass door is not an issue
  • kmareikmarei Posts: 66member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post


    It wasn't this woman, was it?



    In the good old days

    You could point at that lady and say "dumbass!"

    But now, it's our fault for putting a fountain in a shopping mall

    maybe we should have mall helpers, that hold our hand and take us from store to store

    Warning us of glass doors, fountains, stairs etc
  • jmc54jmc54 Posts: 179member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Garamond View Post


    *Knock-knock*



    Who's there?



    Little old lady.



    Little old lady who?



    I didn't know you could yodel.



    not bad!! not bad at all!!!!
  • jmc54jmc54 Posts: 179member
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    Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post


    Apple should just print a menu for payouts for injuries:

    Broken nose: $1 million

    Stubbed toe: $650,000

    Nosebleed: $450,000

    Trip on stairs: $350,000

    Static electric discharge: $250,000

    Mild discomfort of any kind: free iPod Touch

    Mild embarrassment: free $50 iTunes Gift Card



    little old lady doing a face plant on a glass door.....Priceless!!
  • capoeira4ucapoeira4u Posts: 160member
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    Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post


    she broke her nose and she asks 1 million?

    1 million????

    1 million???

    really? 1 million???



    even 1000 dollars would be too much!



    1 million? lol



    In the McDonald's coffee case, the jury awarded Stella Liebeck, the 79-year-old coffee victim, $160,000 to cover medical expenses and compensatory damages and $2.7 million in punitive damages. In the end after several appeals, she ended up settling out of court and received around $600,000. I wonder how must this lady will get from Apple.
  • jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
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    Originally Posted by capoeira4u View Post


    In the McDonald's coffee case, the jury awarded Stella Liebeck, the 79-year-old coffee victim, $160,000 to cover medical expenses and compensatory damages and $2.7 million in punitive damages. In the end after several appeals, she ended up settling out of court and received around $600,000. I wonder how must this lady will get from Apple.



    The cases are different enough that the McDonald's case isn't much guidance.



    While I would never have voted with the jury in the McDonald's case, the fact is that there were hundreds of previous complaints over the same issue. McDonald's was clearly aware that there was an issue and chose to continue to serve coffee at the same temperature (either that, or the local store ignored company policy - which amounts to almost the same thing). Because of that, almost the entire award was punitive.



    In this case, there is no history of people walking into glass doors and breaking their nose. That makes it simple negligence (even if the lady wins) and punitive damages are very unlikely to be awarded. So at most, she could recover her medical and legal expenses. But even that is unlikely - since so many millions of people use the store without difficulty.
  • andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
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    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    The cases are different enough that the McDonald's case isn't much guidance.



    While I would never have voted with the jury in the McDonald's case, the fact is that there were hundreds of previous complaints over the same issue. McDonald's was clearly aware that there was an issue and chose to continue to serve coffee at the same temperature (either that, or the local store ignored company policy - which amounts to almost the same thing). Because of that, almost the entire award was punitive.



    In this case, there is no history of people walking into glass doors and breaking their nose. That makes it simple negligence (even if the lady wins) and punitive damages are very unlikely to be awarded. So at most, she could recover her medical and legal expenses. But even that is unlikely - since so many millions of people use the store without difficulty.



    You don't know that. Those complaints wouldnt be public until a hearing. While if I were betting, I would also guess it wasn't prevalent. But the truth remains- that we don't know. It might come out there are a thousand a year.



    The saddest part is depending on the state, the punitive damages are now likely capped. I believe in Texas it's $150k- definately not enough to make them change any policies (or whatever company is found liable for whatever and given punitive damages). Said it once- ill say it again. Tort reform sucks.
  • jlanddjlandd Posts: 810member
    It's Manhasset.





    "I have some great news and some horrible news"



    "What?"



    "I got an Apple Store job!"



    "Fanstastic! What's the bad news?"



    "It's in Manhasset."






    She's not upset that she broke her nose. She's upset that it smudged her $25,000 nose job.
  • jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Andysol View Post


    You don't know that. Those complaints wouldnt be public until a hearing. While if I were betting, I would also guess it wasn't prevalent. But the truth remains- that we don't know. It might come out there are a thousand a year.



    The saddest part is depending on the state, the punitive damages are now likely capped. I believe in Texas it's $150k- definately not enough to make them change any policies (or whatever company is found liable for whatever and given punitive damages). Said it once- ill say it again. Tort reform sucks.



    What does Texas have to do with this complaint?



    Furthermore, if there were people walking into Apple stores left and right and breaking their noses, do you really think that you wouldn't have heard anything? For that matter, Apple's not the only store that uses glass windows in the front. Where are all these stories about people walking into windows and breaking their noses?



    Clearly, it's not happening often.
  • jlanddjlandd Posts: 810member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post


    Clearly, it's not happening often.





    Now it will be!!! : )
  • lilgto64lilgto64 Posts: 1,147member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlandd View Post


    Now it will be!!! : )



    What we will see now is a spike in the incidence of Android users walking into the doors/walls/etc at Microsoft Stores (do they still have those?) and then Apple suing Samsung for copying their legal defense - and the blogosphere lit up with reports of how Android users are able to collide with stationary objects while using the device without damage - unlike the iOS device users who cannot walk and operate their device at the same time.



    (that likely sounded better in my head that it came across in text).
  • alcororopalcororop Posts: 1member
    I feel for Justins mom. People send their children to school to be safe, ffs, and a grown woman jerked around with her little boys heart. Hes going to be fucked up for life.

  • archienyarchieny Posts: 9member
    Sorry but i can't picture it:



    Walk into glass door, break nose...



    Get payed for breaking your nose...



    Maybe i otta go break my nose on an apple store.
  • grantogranto Posts: 2member


    So I stumbled across this forum after, guess what: breaking my nose on a storefront's glass.  The path to exit the store led right to it (you had to sidestep to the left for the door).  There were no markings on the glass whatsoever, and it looked just like an open frame leading to the vestibule (there was another door to the outside).  And you guys know what?  I wish they would have had some f*ing markings so I could have seen it.  If it takes a couple small lawsuits to implement injury and/or life saving design in business, I'm all for it, and my ugly, bloody, and swollen broken nose would have appreciated it too.  Pretty soon, this stuff gets integrated into building code, and we all win.  No, I don't plan to sue, but only because I don't have the time.  But I'm willing to bet this happens all the time. 


     


    Also, I'm glad to see that a few people here correctly understand Liebeck v. McDonalds.  That lady had third degree burns on her vagina --the water was practically boiling-- and McDonald's wrote a real nasty letter when she asked for them to pay her medical bills from all the skin grafts.  2.6M = 2 days worth of coffee revenue, what's the big f'n deal?  Are you really so protective of the corporation?  It's always the same hyperjudgmental, but probably fat, ugly, and stupid middle aged Missourian in the f'ing service industry who feels so self-righteous that indignation is his kneejerk response.  Let us protect ourselves, including you, you dumb jerks.

     


    p.s. Apple blows, get a real machine and go Linux. 

  • tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 39,902member
    grant wrote: »
    p.s. Apple blows, get a real machine and go Linux. 

    Hi, troll. Bye, troll.
  • grantogranto Posts: 2member


    was only a joke, career forum dude.  Mac away.

     

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