They lowered the price on the MB Air $700!!! Just like that! in a sec! WTF?! This means people that bought a MB Air just a day before paid a $700 premium! THIEVES!
The above remark pretty much validates how clueless you are with anything Apple. Apple gives you 14 days to return a product. In your example, had Apple dropped the price of the MBA by $700 a day after you bought an MBA, they will gladly refund you the difference.
My advice to you is to increase the dosage of medication in your PC-Koolaid and put a halt to your trolling ways.
Difference in just the processor costs in batches of 1000 is? $714
Your idea that a company should be required to make a machine that suits exactly your needs is absolutely ridiculous! Companies make products to suit the customers they want. If you don?t fit into that grouping then tough noogies. That is how a capitalist society works. I certainly don?t fit into the group that can afford a Buggati Veyron* but don?t complain because they don?t make a cheaper model to suit my specific less-than-supercar interests.
* Watched this week?s Top Gear today.
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Originally Posted by irnchriz
Maybe you should go off and play bonnie with your windows 7 system then?
I am sure Apple are managing fine without your business. Oh, wait. Yes they are. The only PC company to show growth in a time of recession.
If I had spent millions on an OS and hardware design (remember Apple use NO OFF THE SHELF MOTHERBOARDS) and some little prick company came along and started to release clones of my kit I would use a small amount of the billions in the bank to give them a pair of concrete boots.
You guys are just not listening.
No one is saying Psystar are doing the right thing. No one says that Apple should not sue their ass to kngdom come. They should. But what Psystar is showing you is that Apple is f*cking us up our collective asses in various ways. I, WILL NOT buy hardware that is twice expensive because this is what Mr. Jobs decided that I needed. Sorry - on my ass, there is a big NO ENTRY sign!
Trust me, Apple is eventually going to lose. They may shut down psystar, but then there will be another one and another one and another one. They can't go after every company and eventually some judge somewhere will rule against their ULA and it will be over. They should keep the customers that like their software - people like me.
It?s not realistic to expect a company to make a product that fits everyone?s needs all the time. Irnchriz is being realistic. If Apple doesn?t make the product he wants within the price range he is willing to pay then he won?t be an Apple customer. It?s that simple.
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
No one is saying Psystar are doing the right thing. No one says that Apple should not sue their ass to kngdom come. They should. But what Psystar is showing you is that Apple is f*cking us up our collective asses in various ways. I, WILL NOT buy hardware that is twice expensive because this is what Mr. Jobs decided that I needed. Sorry - on my ass, there is a big NO ENTRY sign!
Trust me, Apple is eventually going to lose. They may shut down psystar, but then there will be another one and another one and another one. They can't go after every company and eventually some judge somewhere will rule against their ULA and it will be over. They should keep the customers that like their software - people like me.
The customer is always right.
You’re not listening. What if Apple made this tower you want, but then someone came along asn said I don’t need an i7, I want a simple Pentium in an expandable Mac tower. You can make any combination of HW you want, they can’t please everyone’s needs and they have a right to not license their OS and to not have to make a machine that they don’t want to make.
Speaking of not listening, you keep saying how much more expensive it yet ignoring the prices of just the CPUs from Intel’s own website. The Mac Pro is a professional workstation. If you going to use it to play WoW then you are not the customer they are targeting, so stop comparing it to a consumer tower.
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Originally Posted by chronster
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
Why does it have to be a tower. I’d think a soccer mom would want something simple and all inclusive. In case you haven’t heard, the notebook sector is growing while desktops are stalling. In fact, the only desktop market that is growing is the AIOs. It’s okay that an AIO may not fit your needs, just as it’s okay that you don’t fit Apple’s needs if you want a consumer-grade Mac tower.
PS: If that is the machine you want then make it yourself. There is plenty of info on how to do it. I’ve made several Hackintoshs over the years for fun. Apple has never once spoke about about the homebrew Mac clones.
Bro, I am an avid fan of Mac OS X. I want to keep using it. But Apple's hardware is a different story.
I *HATE* the iMac. I love towers, but the Mac Pro price is ridicules.
They lowered the price on the MB Air $700!!! Just like that! in a sec! WTF?! This means people that bought a MB Air just a day before paid a $700 premium! THIEVES!
GIVE ME A NORMAL MAC.
Core i7 920 (costs $280)
Supporting up to 16G of normal DDR3 RAM
BAM the price goes down to a normal scale.
GIMME YOUR BEST SHOT FELLOW MAC USERS: EXPLAIN TO ME WTF IS THEIR PROBLEM WITH GIVING US MAC USERS A SYSTEM LIKE THAT?!
It is not technically impossible for Apple to build that machine and it seems to be Apples business plan to not address this segment (cheap tower). This is a pointless topic to discuss unless someone from Apple board of directors is here to explain why. Personally, I think Apple product line, somehow, provides something for everyone. The Mac Pro line is NOT a consumer nor a gaming machine it is targeting specific professionals.
It?s not realistic to expect a company to make a product that fits everyone?s needs all the time. Irnchriz is being realistic. If Apple doesn?t make the product he wants within the price range he is willing to pay then he won?t be an Apple customer. It?s that simple.
Bro, giving customers a choice with a CPUS is NOT a big deal. I am not asking Apple to produce a new custom tailored tech JUST FOR ME. I am asking for a Mac that is smack in the middle between the iMac and Mac Pro. I will never ever accept that this is a product that Apple cannot produce with *EASE*.
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Originally Posted by sflocal
The above remark pretty much validates how clueless you are with anything Apple. Apple gives you 14 days to return a product. In your example, had Apple dropped the price of the MBA by $700 a day after you bought an MBA, they will gladly refund you the difference.
My advice to you is to increase the dosage of medication in your PC-Koolaid and put a halt to your trolling ways.
How am I trolling?! I want a great Mac, so I can buy one! But I want some options! I want EVERYONE to use Mac OS X! You know what? here is my proof: Apple went with Intel and notified customers that they can now run WINDOWS via boot camp - BOOM, thousands upon thousands of new customers bought a Mac. Apple add features to Mac OS X that were requested by users - BOOM, more people are buying their products. I can go on and on but the point is this: Listen to your customers and give them option with your great products and you WIN. More people buy!
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Originally Posted by irnchriz
Why should they? Because you say so? Get over yourself. Apple are not about to become a beige box shifter. As I stated before Apple are the only PC company showing growth whilst other firms are slipping.
OF COURSE! Because I am a customer that wants to BUY their products!
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
I will never ever accept that this is a product that Apple cannot produce with *EASE*.
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
Yeah, someone explained to me why Dell & HP don't have their own OS on their Machines!! Apple and MS have their own OS so it is possible. SOME ONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE
Lets see here, what you just put up is like comparing a DVD/TV combo to a home theater system...
Seriously, that image keeps getting used as if it means ANYTHING. It's actually funny how someone uses that picture, then acts like they made some kind of point.
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
You're right. Lets see here, what you just put up is like comparing a DVD/TV combo to a home theater system...
Seriously, that image keeps getting used as if it means ANYTHING. It's actually funny how someone uses that picture, then acts like they made some kind of point.
You remind me of Peter from family guy.
Funny, since nothing in your post explains why she should not choose the iMac. You seem to miss the point in Family Guy Peter character. Peter is some one who try to act smart and answer questions with answers that have nothing to do with the question
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
Requesting common hardware these days is specific?
And because I want great common hardware for a decent price I am selfish?
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
It would only be a "much better deal" if the differences resulted in real world advantages. From a practical perspective, it doesn't.
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
Even Pogue stated in a recent article that the MHz myth was dead. I guess he doesn?t frequent this site.
FYI: AnandTech should be posting its extensive Nehelam Mac Pro tests any day now.
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They lowered the price on the MB Air $700!!! Just like that! in a sec! WTF?! This means people that bought a MB Air just a day before paid a $700 premium! THIEVES!
The above remark pretty much validates how clueless you are with anything Apple. Apple gives you 14 days to return a product. In your example, had Apple dropped the price of the MBA by $700 a day after you bought an MBA, they will gladly refund you the difference.
My advice to you is to increase the dosage of medication in your PC-Koolaid and put a halt to your trolling ways.
Price of CPUs from the Intel price sheet...Difference in just the processor costs in batches of 1000 is? $714
Your idea that a company should be required to make a machine that suits exactly your needs is absolutely ridiculous! Companies make products to suit the customers they want. If you don?t fit into that grouping then tough noogies. That is how a capitalist society works. I certainly don?t fit into the group that can afford a Buggati Veyron* but don?t complain because they don?t make a cheaper model to suit my specific less-than-supercar interests.
* Watched this week?s Top Gear today.
Maybe you should go off and play bonnie with your windows 7 system then?
I am sure Apple are managing fine without your business. Oh, wait. Yes they are. The only PC company to show growth in a time of recession.
If I had spent millions on an OS and hardware design (remember Apple use NO OFF THE SHELF MOTHERBOARDS) and some little prick company came along and started to release clones of my kit I would use a small amount of the billions in the bank to give them a pair of concrete boots.
You guys are just not listening.
No one is saying Psystar are doing the right thing. No one says that Apple should not sue their ass to kngdom come. They should. But what Psystar is showing you is that Apple is f*cking us up our collective asses in various ways. I, WILL NOT buy hardware that is twice expensive because this is what Mr. Jobs decided that I needed. Sorry - on my ass, there is a big NO ENTRY sign!
Trust me, Apple is eventually going to lose. They may shut down psystar, but then there will be another one and another one and another one. They can't go after every company and eventually some judge somewhere will rule against their ULA and it will be over. They should keep the customers that like their software - people like me.
The customer is always right.
It?s not realistic to expect a company to make a product that fits everyone?s needs all the time. Irnchriz is being realistic. If Apple doesn?t make the product he wants within the price range he is willing to pay then he won?t be an Apple customer. It?s that simple.
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
You guys are just not listening.
No one is saying Psystar are doing the right thing. No one says that Apple should not sue their ass to kngdom come. They should. But what Psystar is showing you is that Apple is f*cking us up our collective asses in various ways. I, WILL NOT buy hardware that is twice expensive because this is what Mr. Jobs decided that I needed. Sorry - on my ass, there is a big NO ENTRY sign!
Trust me, Apple is eventually going to lose. They may shut down psystar, but then there will be another one and another one and another one. They can't go after every company and eventually some judge somewhere will rule against their ULA and it will be over. They should keep the customers that like their software - people like me.
The customer is always right.
You’re not listening. What if Apple made this tower you want, but then someone came along asn said I don’t need an i7, I want a simple Pentium in an expandable Mac tower. You can make any combination of HW you want, they can’t please everyone’s needs and they have a right to not license their OS and to not have to make a machine that they don’t want to make.
Speaking of not listening, you keep saying how much more expensive it yet ignoring the prices of just the CPUs from Intel’s own website. The Mac Pro is a professional workstation. If you going to use it to play WoW then you are not the customer they are targeting, so stop comparing it to a consumer tower.
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
Why does it have to be a tower. I’d think a soccer mom would want something simple and all inclusive. In case you haven’t heard, the notebook sector is growing while desktops are stalling. In fact, the only desktop market that is growing is the AIOs. It’s okay that an AIO may not fit your needs, just as it’s okay that you don’t fit Apple’s needs if you want a consumer-grade Mac tower.
PS: If that is the machine you want then make it yourself. There is plenty of info on how to do it. I’ve made several Hackintoshs over the years for fun. Apple has never once spoke about about the homebrew Mac clones.
Bro, I am an avid fan of Mac OS X. I want to keep using it. But Apple's hardware is a different story.
I *HATE* the iMac. I love towers, but the Mac Pro price is ridicules.
They lowered the price on the MB Air $700!!! Just like that! in a sec! WTF?! This means people that bought a MB Air just a day before paid a $700 premium! THIEVES!
GIVE ME A NORMAL MAC.
Core i7 920 (costs $280)
Supporting up to 16G of normal DDR3 RAM
BAM the price goes down to a normal scale.
GIMME YOUR BEST SHOT FELLOW MAC USERS: EXPLAIN TO ME WTF IS THEIR PROBLEM WITH GIVING US MAC USERS A SYSTEM LIKE THAT?!
It is not technically impossible for Apple to build that machine and it seems to be Apples business plan to not address this segment (cheap tower). This is a pointless topic to discuss unless someone from Apple board of directors is here to explain why. Personally, I think Apple product line, somehow, provides something for everyone. The Mac Pro line is NOT a consumer nor a gaming machine it is targeting specific professionals.
It?s not realistic to expect a company to make a product that fits everyone?s needs all the time. Irnchriz is being realistic. If Apple doesn?t make the product he wants within the price range he is willing to pay then he won?t be an Apple customer. It?s that simple.
Bro, giving customers a choice with a CPUS is NOT a big deal. I am not asking Apple to produce a new custom tailored tech JUST FOR ME. I am asking for a Mac that is smack in the middle between the iMac and Mac Pro. I will never ever accept that this is a product that Apple cannot produce with *EASE*.
The above remark pretty much validates how clueless you are with anything Apple. Apple gives you 14 days to return a product. In your example, had Apple dropped the price of the MBA by $700 a day after you bought an MBA, they will gladly refund you the difference.
My advice to you is to increase the dosage of medication in your PC-Koolaid and put a halt to your trolling ways.
How am I trolling?! I want a great Mac, so I can buy one! But I want some options! I want EVERYONE to use Mac OS X! You know what? here is my proof: Apple went with Intel and notified customers that they can now run WINDOWS via boot camp - BOOM, thousands upon thousands of new customers bought a Mac. Apple add features to Mac OS X that were requested by users - BOOM, more people are buying their products. I can go on and on but the point is this: Listen to your customers and give them option with your great products and you WIN. More people buy!
Why should they? Because you say so? Get over yourself. Apple are not about to become a beige box shifter. As I stated before Apple are the only PC company showing growth whilst other firms are slipping.
OF COURSE! Because I am a customer that wants to BUY their products!
So, lets say I was a soccer mom looking for a computer. My knowledge of computers is moderate, and I'm looking for something with stability, ease of use, and peace of mind. I want a decent amount of power across the board. A simple mid level tower. What can Apple do for me? Is that not a large enough of a demographic for Apple to pay attention to?
Which one would she choose?! tough decision!!!
I will never ever accept that this is a product that Apple cannot produce with *EASE*.
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
Which one would she choose?! tough decision!!!
image: http://www.deltaflow.com/wp-content/..._vs_dell-1.jpg
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
Yeah, someone explained to me why Dell & HP don't have their own OS on their Machines!! Apple and MS have their own OS so it is possible. SOME ONE EXPLAIN TO ME PLEASE
Which one would she choose?! tough decision!!!
image: http://www.deltaflow.com/wp-content/..._vs_dell-1.jpg
What's that thing sitting on top of the tower?
Which one would she choose?! tough decision!!!
Lets see here, what you just put up is like comparing a DVD/TV combo to a home theater system...
Seriously, that image keeps getting used as if it means ANYTHING. It's actually funny how someone uses that picture, then acts like they made some kind of point.
You remind me of Peter from family guy.
What's that thing sitting on top of the tower?
I think it is IR receiver.
What's that thing sitting on top of the tower?
it's an IR receiver
I?m not saying that isn?t a good deal to suit one?s needs, but you really should look up the word ?same? in a dictionary.
Price of CPUs from the Intel price sheet...Difference in just the processor costs in batches of 1000 is? $714
You beat me to it. Not only that, but...
Xeon 5550: Upto, 144GB RAM, 32GB/sec, Upto 2 CPUs, Upto DDR3-1333
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
I think it is IR receiver.
Ah. I thought it was a Braun electric shaver.
You're right. Lets see here, what you just put up is like comparing a DVD/TV combo to a home theater system...
Seriously, that image keeps getting used as if it means ANYTHING. It's actually funny how someone uses that picture, then acts like they made some kind of point.
You remind me of Peter from family guy.
Funny, since nothing in your post explains why she should not choose the iMac. You seem to miss the point in Family Guy Peter character. Peter is some one who try to act smart and answer questions with answers that have nothing to do with the question
So because they can, they should, just to suit your selfish wants? There has to be a name for this type of thinkings. Selfuism? A personal feeling that if a company has the capabilities to produce a very specific product that they should produce it regardless of how it affects their bottom line or business model.
Requesting common hardware these days is specific?
And because I want great common hardware for a decent price I am selfish?
Who is drinking the cool aid now?
You beat me to it. Not only that, but...
Xeon 5550: Upto, 144GB RAM, 32GB/sec, Upto 2 CPUs, Upto DDR3-1333
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
It would only be a "much better deal" if the differences resulted in real world advantages. From a practical perspective, it doesn't.
This is perfect. Now Apple can bury them, no excuses and no premature bow-outs from Psystar.
And right before Apple starts selling retail copies of SL for $29.
You beat me to it. Not only that, but...
Xeon 5550: Upto, 144GB RAM, 32GB/sec, Upto 2 CPUs, Upto DDR3-1333
Xeon W3520: Upto 24GB RAM, 25.6GB/sec, Single CPU only, Upto DDR3-1066
The Mac Pro definitely seems the much better deal, just on CPU. Why do people still just look at the clock speed, even though Intel say there is way more too it than that.
Even Pogue stated in a recent article that the MHz myth was dead. I guess he doesn?t frequent this site.
FYI: AnandTech should be posting its extensive Nehelam Mac Pro tests any day now.