(Jus' tweakin' you a little, TS. It'd be a blander forum without your prickly self.)
A forum would be a boring place indeed without its "characters".
Because most of my photos are of people and people tend to congregate indoors I find that nearly half my photos require a flash (or the tripod that everyone carries around in their back pocket). For a camera on an iPod I certainly don't expect a flash.
The presence of a camera in an iPod isn't really an selling point for me, but because I don't have a camera in my cell phone I might actually use it once in a while.
iPod touch with camera, larger storage (16 to 64 GB), lower price.
iPod nano with camera.
iTunes 9 with app organization and Cocktail.
iPhone 3.1 and iPod touch 3.1 OS update.
Somewhat likely:
iPod nano with larger storage (16 - 32 GB).
iPod classic with camera. Possibly larger storage (160 GB).
iTunes 9 with social networking, Blu-Ray, and TV subscription.
Wildcard:
iPod shuffle refresh (new color?).
Apple TV 3.0 and possibly hardware refresh (1080p, larger hard disk?).
Great summary.
If all the current shuffles have been discontinued as was rumored then a new color or other minor change requiring a new model number becomes a near certainty.
I'd say the classic with camera is highly unlikely and unless Apple opts for the thicker design they rejected last time increased capacity is out because the drives themselves have topped out at 120GB per platter. I'd say it's more likely Apple will simply keep the classic on the price list for another year to appease those who say 64GB isn't enough. In reality there is demand for iPods with storage all the way up to 500GB as well as those with the ability to serve as general purpose hard drives like the original iPods, but Apple is infamous for only serving the customers it wants to.
Also, is there an iprod1,1 launch for this event? IF so, what is it?
Good question. I wouldn't be surprised to see something new, that runs the iPhone OS and thus has a placeholder iProd1,1. I'm swayed away from the tablets for now.
AppleTV, tiny laptop with iPhoneOS, or adding basic phone ONLY to iPod Nano (no internet stuff or iPhone apps).
Who knows. I'll bet on AppleTV.
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Originally Posted by Nathan33663
I'm lookind for 3 things at this event:
1. An update to AppleTV, which is long overdue. I've been holding out on buying one for over a year now.
2. Announcement of AT&T finally getting their act together in regards to MMS.
3. iTunes 9 that manages having your music and videos on a wireless hard drive better. Right now, every time I turn my computer off i have to manually search for each song or video that i store on my timecapsule...unless i'm just missing something in the current version...
I think that Cocktail music 'albums' is likely, within iTunes 9, linked with a new iPhoneOS 3.1 too.
As for wireless hard drives - I also hope, desperately, they improve the way we access, store and share our media. As a minimum - a network hard drive with ALL our music, and the local hard drive with a SUBSET (sync) of our music would be brilliant, and usage could largely mimic current iPhone/Pod sync methods. I'd like a small amount of music & photos on my laptop.
I don't know if it is asking too much but iTunes 9 should maintain PowerPC and Tiger compatibility while also becoming less of a resource hog.
If they rewrite iTunes in Cocoa, I imagine it'll have a few opportunities to change and improve. Although I disagreed with the iMovie 08 update (it lost too much), the significant change and rethink that brought with it would be welcome in iTunes IMO. Let's hope they don't just tack on cocktail and social media to the existing code!
Speaking of social media, there's room for some interesting things there. For example, a relatively simple possibility is that Apple could create a social-media-website for users with:
1) links to selected playlists, that you recommend to friends. Friends can play the 30second demo from iTunes and buy if they like.
2) latest photo albums (or is that events? or slideshows?... they really should clean that up)
3) published calendars
4) list of trailers for movies you mark as "interesting"
5) safari bookmarks - show people what you find interesting on the web
6) public area for files (idisk)
7) integrated iChat (Mac only)
8) current location?
That's before they actually offer anything directly managing a social-media page. And most of that could work direct from iPhone, iTunes(Mac) or iTunes(Windows)
I THINK I'd rather see them just put that information up on an existing service... but I'm not positive.
But seriously, do you know of many die hards of <insert band/device/etc> that would prefer a lame digital version of their favorite band or a CD version of it? For the liner notes alone!
CD is digital.
I still have 500 vinyl LPs as well as a large CD collection and I worship at the altar of great graphics and liner notes and I'm a sucker for well produced boxed sets, like the ones Rhino used to produce, but the reality is no one really gives a crap anymore. People care who their favorite performer is going out with or how badly they behaved on some reality show, but no one really takes any music seriously, which is why most music is so bad and uninspiring these days. Music used to be listened to in the context of an album which was usually defined by a concept, but now we're back to the simplicity of the early 1960s when little girls used to buy their little singles.
It's actually amazing to me that the new Beatles boxed sets are selling out, but I guess the Beatles continue to break all the rules and they're probably primarily selling to 50-year-olds. There are forums for this and people are really going nuts...just on the debate over remastered vs. remixed, there's something like 900 posts on Amazon alone. The ABKCO SACD Stones remasters and the Dylan SACD remasters got a great big yawn. In fact, I don't even think you can even buy those versions anymore unless your local record store has old stock. (Record store? What's that?)
Back in the 1970s, when the conglomerates started eating up all the independent labels and then we went into a bit of a recession, the labels deleted tons of product. It didn't come back until the advent of CD. The same thing seems to be happening again, due to the combination of physical sales substantially declining, the demise of record stores and the recession. I've noticed that about 35% of my CD collection is no longer available and more than 50% of my boxed sets have been discontinued. I think the tracks will largely show up online, but there's a whole lot of music culture and history that is simply not going to be available in physical form anymore.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality. I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality.
When you say 'uncompressed' I presume you mean CDs?
The reason I ask is that given CDs aren't a perfect reproduction, is there scope for a compressed format that is actually better than a CD?
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Originally Posted by zoetmb
I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
I still have 500 vinyl LPs as well as a large CD collection and I worship at the altar of great graphics and liner notes and I'm a sucker for well produced boxed sets, like the ones Rhino used to produce, but the reality is no one really gives a crap anymore. People care who their favorite performer is going out with or how badly they behaved on some reality show, but no one really takes any music seriously, which is why most music is so bad and uninspiring these days. Music used to be listened to in the context of an album which was usually defined by a concept, but now we're back to the simplicity of the early 1960s when little girls used to buy their little singles.
It's actually amazing to me that the new Beatles boxed sets are selling out, but I guess the Beatles continue to break all the rules and they're probably primarily selling to 50-year-olds. There are forums for this and people are really going nuts...just on the debate over remastered vs. remixed, there's something like 900 posts on Amazon alone. The ABKCO SACD Stones remasters and the Dylan SACD remasters got a great big yawn. In fact, I don't even think you can even buy those versions anymore unless your local record store has old stock. (Record store? What's that?)
Back in the 1970s, when the conglomerates started eating up all the independent labels and then we went into a bit of a recession, the labels deleted tons of product. It didn't come back until the advent of CD. The same thing seems to be happening again, due to the combination of physical sales substantially declining, the demise of record stores and the recession. I've noticed that about 35% of my CD collection is no longer available and more than 50% of my boxed sets have been discontinued. I think the tracks will largely show up online, but there's a whole lot of music culture and history that is simply not going to be available in physical form anymore.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality. I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
lossless transfer ??
aiff is best
just drag the files from the disc onto your hard drive
Translation: It's only iPods (not tablets), but we like it.
And for the record: since when are Jack Johnson and John Meyer and their like considered Rock n Roll? Lame. If you're gonna call an event rock n roll, then give us rock n roll.
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duh- that's because iPhone users have no choice due to battery consumption needed for calls.Touch users should have that option of a flash.
Yeah, we want touch users to be able to deep cycle their batteries in a much shorter time frame, if they want.
- iPod touch with camera, larger storage (16 to 64 GB), lower price.
- iPod nano with camera.
- iTunes 9 with app organization and Cocktail.
- iPhone 3.1 and iPod touch 3.1 OS update.
Somewhat likely:- iPod nano with larger storage (16 - 32 GB).
- iPod classic with camera. Possibly larger storage (160 GB).
- iTunes 9 with social networking, Blu-Ray, and TV subscription.
Wildcard:Why do you ask? What does it have to do with this article?
Um, because it's IN the article?
Not true- since one play and the vinyl degrades.
And with one sentence you invalidate any claim
you make of being an 'audiofile'.
Oh... I have tons of flashless pics from my phone that are terrific. I just use a little creativity.
Flash from the camera generally sucks anyway. Flattens everything.
You must be one of those geniuses who use flash at a concert from the 50th row.
(Jus' tweakin' you a little, TS. It'd be a blander forum without your prickly self.)
A forum would be a boring place indeed without its "characters".
Because most of my photos are of people and people tend to congregate indoors I find that nearly half my photos require a flash (or the tripod that everyone carries around in their back pocket). For a camera on an iPod I certainly don't expect a flash.
The presence of a camera in an iPod isn't really an selling point for me, but because I don't have a camera in my cell phone I might actually use it once in a while.
Very likely:
- iPod touch with camera, larger storage (16 to 64 GB), lower price.
- iPod nano with camera.
- iTunes 9 with app organization and Cocktail.
- iPhone 3.1 and iPod touch 3.1 OS update.
Somewhat likely:- iPod nano with larger storage (16 - 32 GB).
- iPod classic with camera. Possibly larger storage (160 GB).
- iTunes 9 with social networking, Blu-Ray, and TV subscription.
Wildcard:Great summary.
If all the current shuffles have been discontinued as was rumored then a new color or other minor change requiring a new model number becomes a near certainty.
I'd say the classic with camera is highly unlikely and unless Apple opts for the thicker design they rejected last time increased capacity is out because the drives themselves have topped out at 120GB per platter. I'd say it's more likely Apple will simply keep the classic on the price list for another year to appease those who say 64GB isn't enough. In reality there is demand for iPods with storage all the way up to 500GB as well as those with the ability to serve as general purpose hard drives like the original iPods, but Apple is infamous for only serving the customers it wants to.
A Rolling Stones lyric quote for a Beatles event? I don't think so!
Quote: It's only rock and roll, but we like it.
Translation: It's only iPods (not tablets), but we like it.
Also, is there an iprod1,1 launch for this event? IF so, what is it?
Good question. I wouldn't be surprised to see something new, that runs the iPhone OS and thus has a placeholder iProd1,1. I'm swayed away from the tablets for now.
AppleTV, tiny laptop with iPhoneOS, or adding basic phone ONLY to iPod Nano (no internet stuff or iPhone apps).
Who knows. I'll bet on AppleTV.
I'm lookind for 3 things at this event:
1. An update to AppleTV, which is long overdue. I've been holding out on buying one for over a year now.
2. Announcement of AT&T finally getting their act together in regards to MMS.
3. iTunes 9 that manages having your music and videos on a wireless hard drive better. Right now, every time I turn my computer off i have to manually search for each song or video that i store on my timecapsule...unless i'm just missing something in the current version...
I think that Cocktail music 'albums' is likely, within iTunes 9, linked with a new iPhoneOS 3.1 too.
As for wireless hard drives - I also hope, desperately, they improve the way we access, store and share our media. As a minimum - a network hard drive with ALL our music, and the local hard drive with a SUBSET (sync) of our music would be brilliant, and usage could largely mimic current iPhone/Pod sync methods. I'd like a small amount of music & photos on my laptop.
If Steve would be true to his word and not care about making money on Music only on hardware we would finally see Subscription!!!
Can't wait for that day to come :-)
I think Spotify and Rhapsody have both submitted apps to the app store.
If they are accepted, your wait will be over.
Um, because it's IN the article?
Must be looking at two different articles.
I don't see anything like that.
Okay. You were posting about a different article -> Sources: Apple to unveil new iPod lineup on September 9
not this one -> Apple confirms annual iPod event for September 9, which this thread is about.
I can see why you're so beloved by all here for responding to the actual posts you're arguing about.
I don't know if it is asking too much but iTunes 9 should maintain PowerPC and Tiger compatibility while also becoming less of a resource hog.
If they rewrite iTunes in Cocoa, I imagine it'll have a few opportunities to change and improve. Although I disagreed with the iMovie 08 update (it lost too much), the significant change and rethink that brought with it would be welcome in iTunes IMO. Let's hope they don't just tack on cocktail and social media to the existing code!
Speaking of social media, there's room for some interesting things there. For example, a relatively simple possibility is that Apple could create a social-media-website for users with:
1) links to selected playlists, that you recommend to friends. Friends can play the 30second demo from iTunes and buy if they like.
2) latest photo albums (or is that events? or slideshows?... they really should clean that up)
3) published calendars
4) list of trailers for movies you mark as "interesting"
5) safari bookmarks - show people what you find interesting on the web
6) public area for files (idisk)
7) integrated iChat (Mac only)
8) current location?
That's before they actually offer anything directly managing a social-media page. And most of that could work direct from iPhone, iTunes(Mac) or iTunes(Windows)
I THINK I'd rather see them just put that information up on an existing service... but I'm not positive.
But seriously, do you know of many die hards of <insert band/device/etc> that would prefer a lame digital version of their favorite band or a CD version of it? For the liner notes alone!
CD is digital.
I still have 500 vinyl LPs as well as a large CD collection and I worship at the altar of great graphics and liner notes and I'm a sucker for well produced boxed sets, like the ones Rhino used to produce, but the reality is no one really gives a crap anymore. People care who their favorite performer is going out with or how badly they behaved on some reality show, but no one really takes any music seriously, which is why most music is so bad and uninspiring these days. Music used to be listened to in the context of an album which was usually defined by a concept, but now we're back to the simplicity of the early 1960s when little girls used to buy their little singles.
It's actually amazing to me that the new Beatles boxed sets are selling out, but I guess the Beatles continue to break all the rules and they're probably primarily selling to 50-year-olds. There are forums for this and people are really going nuts...just on the debate over remastered vs. remixed, there's something like 900 posts on Amazon alone. The ABKCO SACD Stones remasters and the Dylan SACD remasters got a great big yawn. In fact, I don't even think you can even buy those versions anymore unless your local record store has old stock. (Record store? What's that?)
Back in the 1970s, when the conglomerates started eating up all the independent labels and then we went into a bit of a recession, the labels deleted tons of product. It didn't come back until the advent of CD. The same thing seems to be happening again, due to the combination of physical sales substantially declining, the demise of record stores and the recession. I've noticed that about 35% of my CD collection is no longer available and more than 50% of my boxed sets have been discontinued. I think the tracks will largely show up online, but there's a whole lot of music culture and history that is simply not going to be available in physical form anymore.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality. I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality.
When you say 'uncompressed' I presume you mean CDs?
The reason I ask is that given CDs aren't a perfect reproduction, is there scope for a compressed format that is actually better than a CD?
I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
That is truly a worry!
BS- maybe you can't hear it but many of us audiophiles can.
You pretend you can.
Boy the press likes to torture the old Apple Computer vs Apple Records thing don't they?
Anyone who likes the Beatles already has their music from way back, either from cd's or pirated.
The college kids today, they nearly all think rap music is the ONLY music.
Good thing there is college to experience new things!
yeayeayeayea she love's you yeayeayea
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been,
Lives in a dream.
Waits at the window, wearing a face that she keeps in a jar by the door,
Who is it for?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
Father McKenzie, writing the words of a sermon that no-one will hear,
No-one comes near
Look at him working, darning his socks in the night when there's nobody there,
What does he care?
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Ah, look at all the lonely people.
Eleanor Rigby died in the church and was buried along with her name.
Nobody came.
Father McKenzie, wiping the dirt from his hands as he walks from the grave.
No-one was saved.
All the lonely people, where do they all come from?
All the lonely people, where do they all belong?
What? A true Beatles fan would only buy these on CD anyway; the sound is infinitely better.
cd sound like shit
vinyl has a fabric that makes beatles shine
if the beatles come to itunes it will strike a death blow to any other music player vendor
million never forgot the beatles
millions will now find out how great they are/were
peace
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CD is digital.
I still have 500 vinyl LPs as well as a large CD collection and I worship at the altar of great graphics and liner notes and I'm a sucker for well produced boxed sets, like the ones Rhino used to produce, but the reality is no one really gives a crap anymore. People care who their favorite performer is going out with or how badly they behaved on some reality show, but no one really takes any music seriously, which is why most music is so bad and uninspiring these days. Music used to be listened to in the context of an album which was usually defined by a concept, but now we're back to the simplicity of the early 1960s when little girls used to buy their little singles.
It's actually amazing to me that the new Beatles boxed sets are selling out, but I guess the Beatles continue to break all the rules and they're probably primarily selling to 50-year-olds. There are forums for this and people are really going nuts...just on the debate over remastered vs. remixed, there's something like 900 posts on Amazon alone. The ABKCO SACD Stones remasters and the Dylan SACD remasters got a great big yawn. In fact, I don't even think you can even buy those versions anymore unless your local record store has old stock. (Record store? What's that?)
Back in the 1970s, when the conglomerates started eating up all the independent labels and then we went into a bit of a recession, the labels deleted tons of product. It didn't come back until the advent of CD. The same thing seems to be happening again, due to the combination of physical sales substantially declining, the demise of record stores and the recession. I've noticed that about 35% of my CD collection is no longer available and more than 50% of my boxed sets have been discontinued. I think the tracks will largely show up online, but there's a whole lot of music culture and history that is simply not going to be available in physical form anymore.
Everyone seems to want 64-bit iTunes, but what's more important to me is that they sell only uncompressed versions of the songs. That's why it's rare that I download anything. I copy CDs to my iPhone using lossless transfer. And even then I frequently notice artifacts. But that's me...most people don't give a damn about quality. I love it when I see friends sharing one set of ear buds...one listens to the left channel and the other listens to the right channel. No wonder someone asked on one of the Beatle forums what was the difference between mono and stereo.
lossless transfer ??
aiff is best
just drag the files from the disc onto your hard drive
then import at aiff setting
lossless is still 50% compressed
Quote: It's only rock and roll, but we like it.
Translation: It's only iPods (not tablets), but we like it.
And for the record: since when are Jack Johnson and John Meyer and their like considered Rock n Roll? Lame. If you're gonna call an event rock n roll, then give us rock n roll.