Microsoft unleashes retail talking points attacking Linux, Macs

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  • Reply 61 of 127
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    Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post


    You have failed to address all the other services that MobileMe offers. Does Windows offer a built-in service for finding your WinMo-based phone and a way to wipe it cleanly? I know AT&T offers a locate feature for $3/month, but it only uses the cell tower, not the GPS chip. That is $36/year right there while being considerably less accurate and offering less options than the one Apple includes with MobileMe. What about a zero-config access and screen sharing to other Macs? Or how about the auto syncing of nearly all your desktop items, not just your calendar and contacts? You may not find these useful, but to say that the service should be cheaper because you don’t want to or can’t utilize all the features is foolish, at best. There is no other service that matches what MobileMe offers. It has saved me several times over the years back when it was iTools and .Mac, and now for the same $69/year I get even more features. It sounds like you are the one who is too lazy to do any research.



    All what other services? I am logged in to me .Mac right now (.Me... whatever) and it has Mail, Address Book, Calendar, Gallery, iDisk and Settings. They used to have a small web-site tool, but they took that away. But, you can still host 1 site on your .Me account (but they won't host the domain).



    You don't need .Mac for screen sharing. I did that with Remote Desktop years ago on a PC, and use Screen Sharing on the Mac now... no MobileMe required. Syncing all my desktop items? Like what? My bookmarks? I have an easy way to sync my files... it's called a laptop...



    Anyway... you're trying to convince the wrong person. I have a Mac, and I have MobileMe. I have an iPod Touch, a Nano, a Macbook, Airport Extreme, Airport Express, Logic, Final Cut, and iWork... So, I'm about as Apple as it gets.



    All I am trying to say, is putting on the blinders and saying 'MobileMe is the ONLY way to go' is not true. It is good for the small set of tools that it is, but it needs to expand and grow because there is a ton of stuff in the works from the likes of Google, MS, and even Facebook. How about letting me load my iTunes to a .Mac account and stream them to another computer? Maybe I can get a domain hosted for my money? I dunno... but they have to keep it moving to keep it relevant.



    Apple isn't oblivious to this - look at iPhoto - it syncs to Flickr and Facebook, as well as MobileMe Gallery. iMovie? Exports to YouTube. Apple's success will be because they are open to cooperation, and they can be, when they make lots of money on the hardware. All MS has is their software, and the more secrets they give away, the less they are worth. It's just two different models, and for the time being, Apple's is the more successful. But, just like GeoCities gave way to MySpace gave way to Facebook - you are always one good idea from your company being famous, or extinct.
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  • Reply 62 of 127
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    Originally Posted by Chug View Post


    You mean like what Apple does?



    There is a difference between attacking and educating consumers about the facts.
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  • Reply 63 of 127
    So?



    Let them push their talking points.



    Doesn't change the fact that MS is now the Yugo of the tech industry.



    The public conception, the professional opinions, the consumer preferences all point to one very simple, very clear, very obvious conclusion:



    Apple has proven itself the single most innovative and profitable consumer technology company in the world today. Apples record quarters - in a recession, record Mac sales - in a recession, stellar reputation, customer satidsfaction ratings year after year, don't lie.
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  • Reply 64 of 127
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    Originally Posted by mdcat View Post


    The good news: "It's possible to get a PC with the same hardware specs as a Mac and save up to $300," the second page says...



    The bad news: You have to put up with Windows



    MS seems to think the OS doesn't matter.



    Which is also why they're now feeding off the bottom. LOL, such dumbasses.
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  • Reply 65 of 127
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    Originally Posted by jfanning View Post


    Retailer margins, not Apples margin



    Hubba whoba? You mean you can get it cheaper at Apple's web-site or own store? I think not. You can save a few dollars at MacMall and such, but a true Mac 'sale' on a new product only comes once a year to the Apple store... web or retail.
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  • Reply 66 of 127
    The author says that iLife is free because it comes with a new Mac but Windows 7 Professional cost you $300?



    Haven't you heard that a lot of PCs do have Windows pre-installed? So from this perspective it's also "free".



    What is the author talking about Quartz Composer as an equivalent to Desktop Themes? Seriously? Can't you see how cool it is to switch wallpaper slideshows, window transparency and color, sound scheme and screensaver with just two clicks? Maybe before a presentation? And you even can download complete themes.



    Criticizing Windows Live and not even know Writer, SkyDrive or Sync speaks for itself...



    What is this here, journalism?
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  • Reply 67 of 127
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    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


    The one that really makes me laugh was the so called filmmaker. anyone with the balls to use that term with a straight face is going to be using something hella better than Windows Movie Maker (very likely Final Cut or Media Composer) and would need either a Mac or a way better PC than what was picked.



    He was probably the "filmmaker" responsible for bang bros an bang bus, that's what ms styled their adds after: the short scenes with frequent cuts, the drive ins and outs of malls and residential areas, the reality feel, all down to the girl and boy next door getting picked off the street, and the money scene with the dishing of the cash out in front of the girls face. Of course it's not much of an aesthetic to push a technological product (no matter how crap it might be) by means of copying a sub par porn network's preview clips, but to each his own.
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  • Reply 68 of 127
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    Originally Posted by Quadra 610 View Post


    MS seems to think the OS doesn't matter.



    What? Didn't they try to make some points about Windows 7 features?
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  • Reply 69 of 127
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    Originally Posted by TiAdiMundo View Post


    T Can't you see how cool it is to switch wallpaper slideshows, window transparency and color, sound scheme and screensaver with just two clicks?



    It's not real cool to switch between them when all of them are crap. A good interface has doesn't have tens choices all of them godawful. It has a few crucial ones to customize.
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  • Reply 70 of 127
    macnycmacnyc Posts: 342member
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    Originally Posted by BeyondYourFrontDoor View Post


    Mac is a premium brand, and I have the resources to buy it... and I rather like it being a bit more exclusive...



    Maybe you should stay "BehindYourFrontDoor"
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  • Reply 71 of 127
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    Originally Posted by myapplelove View Post


    It's not real cool to switch between them when all of them are crap. A good interface has doesn't have tens choices all of them godawful. It has a few crucial ones to customize.



    It's your fault if you don't like the themes you have created yourself.
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  • Reply 72 of 127
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    Originally Posted by charlituna View Post


    since we are talking about selective truths in advertising, lets be fair, it's not 'zero-config'. there are 2-3 prefs panels to play on. across two machines.



    Zero-config refers to Bonjour, formerly known as Rendevous, more specifically Wide Area Bonjour, a service discovery protocol that means that once you put in your username and password and turn on the service you never have to know the IP address of the machine you wish to connect to.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeroconf



    BeyondYourFrontDoor thinks that installing Apple Remote Desktop or some other such app, locating the IP address of the machine you wish to connect to via the IP address, putting in that info after you have turned on screen sharing and opened the appropriate ports is the same as a simple BackToMyMac feature included in MobileMe. I have used such features for years but BackToMyMac makes this so easy. It in itself is worth the $69/year to me.
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  • Reply 73 of 127
    I used to work in electronic sales and ALL companies use these strategies...there is very little profit margins in electronics and especially PC's where you can comparison shop on-line with a click of a mouse and everyone is competing for a lower price to reel you in. Retails chains make their money on "extended warranties/service plans/tech help" whatever they call it its all the same and then all the accessories (especially anything Monster Cable) and software add ons. Sales people are threatened that if they don't upgrade the customer or sale a certain percentage of "service plans" you will be fired period. In this case, Bestbuy, will be monitoring Windows 7 PC sales and I guarantee they will offer some sort of financial incentive for the PC sales people to sell more Windows machines.

    Do people still buy electronics in stores...WHY? LOL
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  • Reply 74 of 127
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
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    Originally Posted by iCarbon View Post


    My god! I'm selling my mac and buying a PC!!!!!



    what have I been thinking all these years!



    Too funny
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  • Reply 75 of 127
    Haven't read any of the posts, but...



    This is just so... so... so... Microsoft! They build a promo Ad campaign that focuses on their deficiencies.



    Mike Kenney said it best, years ago: What an oaf they [Microsoft] are!



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  • Reply 76 of 127
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    Originally Posted by darwiniandude View Post


    OS X does have handwriting recognition built in, and always has. You need a graphics tablet connected for 'Inkwell' to show up in System Preferences. This is what the Axiotron Modbook people have taken advantage of.



    Agreed, I'd love Apple to make hardware to use this out the box. For me it would be for mainly artistic reasons, there is no way I can write as fast as I can type.



    I am quite aware of Inkwell and the lovely Modbook. I am even considered a Modbook a few months ago. Apple is also at least a decade behind MS's handwriting recognition. Go do a search on youtube to see a nice comparison between the two. Light years ahead. MUCH more accurate, multi-language support...I can input Japanese and Korean with ease, tighter integration with software.



    The Modbook is not about handwriting recognition...it is 100% about drawing (and some minor DJ programs that are very cool). The Modbook does not make a great tablet computer for day-to-day business use...too big and heavy, plus it uses energy like crazy. It IS an stupendous portable drawing tablet!!!! None of the PC tablets can compare to it in that catagory.



    But hardware aside, MS still wins, hands-down, in this catagory...why, Apple, why? My biggest fear is that we will get a tablet that is either just a larger iPod Touch that runs Apps or, worse yet, a true OSX-based computer that doesn't accept stylus input, only Multi-touch.
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  • Reply 77 of 127
    At this point in time, who the fuck gives a DAMN about Microsoft? Or their products.



    Who cares what they say or do? They spend billions to "develop" software that doesn't even approach the barest mediocrity, yet somehow some have convinced themselves that MS produces things that are barely good enough.



    Go ahead.... pay MS to abuse you, waste your time and take your money. What a deal!
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  • Reply 78 of 127
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


    At this point in time, who the fuck gives a DAMN about Microsoft? Or their products.



    Who cares what they say or do? They spend billions to "develop" software that doesn't even approach the barest mediocrity, yet somehow some have convinced themselves that MS produces things that are barely good enough.



    Go ahead.... pay MS to abuse you, waste your time and take your money. What a deal!



    And using foul language is going to help you make a point...how? Emotional baggage much? What did MS do to you as as a small child?
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  • Reply 79 of 127
    alfiejralfiejr Posts: 1,524member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Logisticaldron View Post


    Don?t forget the zero-config Back To My Mac and the auto-backing up of pretty much every desktop setting on a Mac that can be synced across multiple Macs.



    Essentially, BeyondYourFrontDoor is correct in that pretty much every basic aspect of MobileMe is available for free, but there is no equivalent for every service that MM offers, much less one that is all inclusive and so simple for the end user.



    and also, the really easy and seamless integration of MobilMe and its Gallery with iPhoto and iMovie in particular is simply the best available. instant uploads/downloads from inside the programs, auto folder synch updating, auto file size scaling, etc. works with iPhone too. Google, MS, nobody else has it all together in one "ecosystem."
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  • Reply 80 of 127
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    Originally Posted by djsherly View Post


    True, anecdotal evidence is only so effective.



    really, it's only useful as a reply to another anecdote as a means to show how meaningless it is.
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