Like Apple, Microsoft rumored to be creating tablet

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  • Reply 21 of 141
    Strategically speaking, Ballmer is worse than useless -- he's a liability, whistling past the graveyard as he jabs at Apple while squirming in his seat, knowing that his ass is already kicked.
  • Reply 22 of 141
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  • Reply 23 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mstone View Post


    I don't think that comment has much validity. Apple has had to reinvent itself several times over the course of the their history. The Newton was from a different era and although revolutionary for its time, there is really no comparison to today's technology. It's tough being #2. You always have to push the envelop. Microsoft on the other hand has always been on top and has not changed their business strategy much at all over the years.



    Actually it does.

    The Apple of old, John Scully and Gil Amelio eras That's where the flashlight reference comes from - Amelio wanted Macs to be like MagLite flaslights!



    So, Apple had their toes in EVERY market. Apple sold everything: printers, scanners, digital cameras and an array of computers that was ridiculously complex (different product names for different processor speed, hard drive size or RAM!) with overlapping product lines (Performa) with little differentiation. There was little or no focus. Macs were mostly dull grey (platinum) boxes.



    The Newton was Scully's baby. It was discussed ad nauseum before release. Apple, as I mentioned, promised everything. It was a great, potentially world beating device, but it shipped with seriously flawed handwriting recognition software. It was ridiculed extensively. By the time Apple fixed the software, the damage had been done and the Newton never really recovered.



    See famous Doonesbury comic:

    http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-co...s/db930827.gif



    When Jobs returned to Apple. He slashed and simplified the product lines and slammed the lid on news about products in development. Nothing shipped unless it worked. How many real failures has Apple had since 1997? The Cube, which was really a price issue. What else?



    Yeah, so Apple DID learn from it's mistakes and missteps. MS has not and continues to do the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Isn't that a definition of insanity?
  • Reply 24 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    In addition, she said Microsoft intends to work more closely with a smaller number of manufacturers for its mobile devices in the future.



    Is this maybe because "manufacturers" are dropping Windows Mobile?
  • Reply 25 of 141
    dluxdlux Posts: 666member
    Fred Flintstone had a tablet long before either of them...



    http://gosublogger.com/wp-content/up...stones_jpg.png



    I'm not sure that's the right one though.
  • Reply 26 of 141
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    Originally Posted by chronster View Post


    Microsoft Insider everybody...



    Exactly.



    Soon this will be the place for MS bashing only (for people to bash products they don't use), and we will have to find out about Apple products from the WinFan site!
  • Reply 27 of 141
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Maybe it will be good, but if I know MS it will be average. Based on past experience, I won't be waiting to see what it's like before buying the Apple one (if I do buy the Apple one).
  • Reply 28 of 141
    asciiascii Posts: 5,936member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


    When Jobs returned to Apple. He slashed and simplified the product lines and slammed the lid on news about products in development. Nothing shipped unless it worked. How many real failures has Apple had since 1997? The Cube, which was really a price issue. What else?



    The iPod boom box and the Apple TV. The living room is not Apple's strong point apparently.
  • Reply 29 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dlux View Post


    Fred Flintstone had a tablet long before either of them...



    http://gosublogger.com/wp-content/up...stones_jpg.png



    I'm not sure that's the right one though.



    Or this one.
  • Reply 30 of 141
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    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    The iPod boom box and the Apple TV. The living room is not Apple's strong point apparently.



    Apple TV is not a failure, but it needs work.



    Also: I'm guessing Microsoft will wait until after Apple releases the tablet to undercut their price.
  • Reply 31 of 141
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    The iPod boom box and the Apple TV. The living room is not Apple's strong point apparently.



    I think you're writing ATV's obit a little early. Its been a placeholder, and as a user, I'll testify that its a damned good one. I also just upgraded it to ATV Flash while I wait for gen2, and my family loves it. Always has.



    So lets see what the turf looks like in a year. I think Apple is going to own the living room within 5 years.



    edit: The 'living room' as entertainment hub will be dead in 5 years, and Apple will own the whole terrain.
  • Reply 32 of 141
    gqbgqb Posts: 1,934member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


    See famous Doonesbury comic:

    http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-co...s/db930827.gif



    It took me a while to get over what Trudeau did to the Newton with a few panels, but looking back, it was deserved parody.
  • Reply 33 of 141
    kolchakkolchak Posts: 1,398member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lafe View Post


    Pink?

    Zune?

    Windows Mobile 7?



    Who comes up with these product names? \



    Ah, the short of memory. Google "taligent pink" and you'll find that Microsoft isn't the first computer company to use the codename, "Pink." So did a certain other scrappy, little, fruity company.
  • Reply 34 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ascii View Post


    Maybe it will be good, but if I know MS it will be average.



    I'd expect it to be mediocre, but cheaper. Microsoft's speciality.



    The comment about Microsoft choosing hardware partners is potentially the most interesting development. This is something they've never tried before, AFAIK. They've always taken on all comers. If it happens, this would be an admission that (1) they are unable to successfully reproduce their Windows selling strategy and, (2) they really don't understand hardware. Two major statements, if it comes to pass.
  • Reply 35 of 141
    "...She speculated that Microsoft would likely wait to show off the hardware until after Apple unveils its own..."



    Of course Microsoft will wait until after Apple releases something. Their last attempt at tablet computing was quite the failure, except for very specific vertical markets, so now they want to copy something that will be successful.
  • Reply 36 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Galley View Post


    Microsoft has only made one great piece of hardware. 10 years later, it's still in production.

    IntelliMouse® Optical



    I agree. I bought this exact Microsoft mouse in 2000 with a PC. I got rid of the PC in 2004 but kept the mouse to use with my Macs and still use it daily. Love it.
  • Reply 37 of 141
    I hate to be crude but Microsoft needs to get off of Apple's balls for once. They have been making tablet software for years and its been a complete failure and now they're waiting for Apple to come out with their tablet first? I wonder why? Could it be that they are waiting to copy whatever Apple does but on a far less classy and crappier scale? Oh Redmond, how I loathe you!
  • Reply 38 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by GQB View Post


    I think you're writing ATV's obit a little early. Its been a placeholder, and as a user, I'll testify that its a damned good one. I also just upgraded it to ATV Flash while I wait for gen2, and my family loves it. Always has.



    So lets see what the turf looks like in a year. I think Apple is going to own the living room within 5 years.



    edit: The 'living room' as entertainment hub will be dead in 5 years, and Apple will own the whole terrain.



    Verizon FIOS uses MS software to run it's box along with other cable and satellite companies around the world. Apple isn't going to own the living room unless it's products cost the same and offer the same or more functionality than the competition. I bet DVD players still outsell the ATV at Best Buy
  • Reply 39 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DKWalsh4 View Post


    I'm sorry, I just don't think they are particularly suited to be on the hardware side of things.)



    Just a minute here, I have a Microsoft branded mouse that I use when I have to switch to Bootcamp. It has been working well for over a year now!
  • Reply 40 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jeffharris View Post


    Actually it does.

    The Apple of old, John Scully and Gil Amelio eras That's where the flashlight reference comes from - Amelio wanted Macs to be like MagLite flaslights!



    So, Apple had their toes in EVERY market. Apple sold everything: printers, scanners, digital cameras and an array of computers that was ridiculously complex (different product names for different processor speed, hard drive size or RAM!) with overlapping product lines (Performa) with little differentiation. There was little or no focus. Macs were mostly dull grey (platinum) boxes.



    The Newton was Scully's baby. It was discussed ad nauseum before release. Apple, as I mentioned, promised everything. It was a great, potentially world beating device, but it shipped with seriously flawed handwriting recognition software. It was ridiculed extensively. By the time Apple fixed the software, the damage had been done and the Newton never really recovered.



    See famous Doonesbury comic:

    http://static.seekingalpha.com/wp-co...s/db930827.gif



    When Jobs returned to Apple. He slashed and simplified the product lines and slammed the lid on news about products in development. Nothing shipped unless it worked. How many real failures has Apple had since 1997? The Cube, which was really a price issue. What else?



    Yeah, so Apple DID learn from it's mistakes and missteps. MS has not and continues to do the same thing over and over, expecting a different result. Isn't that a definition of insanity?



    motorola rokr, but that was mostly developed by Motorola
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