I'll never understand why anybody cares about sending a picture that is so low in quality that the person receiving it can't even make out what it is.
It's like complaining that you can't send a telegram. It's just something for losers who have nothing better to do with their lives to complain about. I think Apple didn't include it because MMS is a crappy, outdated, archaic system that doesn't deserve to be perpetuated. The iPhone does email, IM, voice and several other things - why the f- does it need MMS????
Wow...hold the presses...a wireless user has connection problems in San Fran....the land of hills, valleys, concrete & steel structures, and NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) Syndrome...where it can take years to get approval for a new cell tower.
Like most cell phones, they are not physically capable to send or receive MMS.
That's a joke -right. WHat cellphones can't? My $50 verizon cellphone could even do that. It's not physically able to do it because Apple didn't include it in it's hardware/software compatibility.
What is this? Are they talking about on your bill you can go back and see the contents every single text you've sent? Or something else, like texting from the web?
I'll never understand why anybody cares about sending a picture that is so low in quality that the person receiving it can't even make out what it is.
It's like complaining that you can't send a telegram. It's just something for losers who have nothing better to do with their lives to complain about. I think Apple didn't include it because MMS is a crappy, outdated, archaic system that doesn't deserve to be perpetuated. The iPhone does email, IM, voice and several other things - why the f- does it need MMS????
What is this? Are they talking about on your bill you can go back and see the contents every single text you've sent? Or something else, like texting from the web?
When someone sends an iPhone user an MMS message, instead, they automatically get sent a text message with an ID and password and a website to visit. The iPhone user then goes to that website, enters the ID and password and then immediately gets an error message. Or maybe that was just me.
Sorry, actually, you would supposedly be shown the actual MMS.
Vodafone Australia offers it for free. Unfortunately I can't read anything except spanish and of course english, so I couldn't tell you about other countries but I believe either Sweden or Switzerland is also one of them.
Really? Exactly how much slower is email than an MMS?
It's more than the actual speed of the data- it's the whole routine of sending/receiving itself. When you receive a text it appears (and states from who) right on your iPhone, even if locked. SO it's instant notification. YOu can't tell that from email (all you see is a #), but first you must unlock your phone, then you need to launch Mail. Then to compose it has less steps - no subject, no need for internet connection, etc. And I believe the data really does transfer faster if the respective status gauges are any indication. The GI looks like iCHat so it's much easier to follow a conversation. I can communicate very efficiently, have mutiple dialogues going on, all with a quick glance at my phone. Different strokes for different folks.
I agree with the above poster, however I think the issue with them claiming it doesn't work is because Apple is touting video uploads as a feature, which isn't possible with the 1st gen. I also don't think it can do voice memos, but I am probably wrong on that aspect.
When someone sends an iPhone user an MMS message, instead, they automatically get sent a text message with an ID and password and a website to visit. The iPhone user then goes to that website, enters the ID and password and then immediately gets an error message. Or maybe that was just me.
Sorry, actually, you would supposedly be shown the actual MMS.
Cool, thanks.
I myself prefer email. MMS is what my 16 year old sister does. The rest of the civilized world uses email.
Tethering, though, I'd love. I'd even take it as a "day pass" model since I don't find myself away from wireless much.
And why not? Everybody else that provides unlimited data plans either charges separately for tethering or it is buried so deep, even a minor's light and a pneumatic drill wouldn't help find it.
It's more than the actual speed of the data- it's the whole routine of sending/receiving itself.
OK, but you said speed.
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When you receive a text it appears (and states from who) right on your iPhone, even if locked. SO it's instant notification. YOu can't tell that from email (all you see is a #), but first you must unlock your phone, then you need to launch Mail. Then to compose it has less steps - no subject, no need for internet connection, etc. And I believe the data really does transfer faster if the respective status gauges are any indication. The GI looks like iCHat so it's much easier to follow a conversation. I can communicate very efficiently, have mutiple dialogues going on, all with a quick glance at my phone. Different strokes for different folks.
I understand all the steps it takes to send/receive an email and all the steps it takes to send/receive SMS, and I get that it would probably take a whole 5 seconds more to produce an email vs. an MMS message, but I'm trying to understand what makes it so great that people would want to PAY for such a feature for those rare occasions. Or are they not so rare? I mean, how many MMS messages does a person send all day vs. SMS? I regularly have "conversations" with people via SMS, but what kind of conversation would someone have with MMS? Back and forth videos, pictures, contacts?
OK- EVERYBody remember. MMS all day 9/25/09 with a pic of the iPhone stating "AT&T SUCKS!" and crash the network!
I am cringing at this announcement because you know AT&T will not be able to support the tons of MMS's that the iPhone clan (including myself) will unleash on that day. Seriously, I wish they would have just randomly rolled it out in 10% cuts of their customer base for iPhone. This has "going to go all wrong" wrote all over it.
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It's like complaining that you can't send a telegram. It's just something for losers who have nothing better to do with their lives to complain about. I think Apple didn't include it because MMS is a crappy, outdated, archaic system that doesn't deserve to be perpetuated. The iPhone does email, IM, voice and several other things - why the f- does it need MMS????
There are some international carriers that offer iPhone tethering free.
Could you name them?
Why so frigg'n negative.?
1.) My bill is sky high already.
2.) http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/biztech...age/index.html
How much are you paying?
Wow...hold the presses...a wireless user has connection problems in San Fran....the land of hills, valleys, concrete & steel structures, and NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) Syndrome...where it can take years to get approval for a new cell tower.
You beat me to it.
Like most cell phones, they are not physically capable to send or receive MMS.
I'll never understand why anybody cares about sending a picture that is so low in quality that the person receiving it can't even make out what it is.
It's like complaining that you can't send a telegram. It's just something for losers who have nothing better to do with their lives to complain about. I think Apple didn't include it because MMS is a crappy, outdated, archaic system that doesn't deserve to be perpetuated. The iPhone does email, IM, voice and several other things - why the f- does it need MMS????
Speed.
What is this? Are they talking about on your bill you can go back and see the contents every single text you've sent? Or something else, like texting from the web?
When someone sends an iPhone user an MMS message, instead, they automatically get sent a text message with an ID and password and a website to visit. The iPhone user then goes to that website, enters the ID and password and then immediately gets an error message. Or maybe that was just me.
Sorry, actually, you would supposedly be shown the actual MMS.
Speed.
Really? Exactly how much slower is email than an MMS?
Could you name them?
Vodafone Australia offers it for free. Unfortunately I can't read anything except spanish and of course english, so I couldn't tell you about other countries but I believe either Sweden or Switzerland is also one of them.
Really? Exactly how much slower is email than an MMS?
It's more than the actual speed of the data- it's the whole routine of sending/receiving itself. When you receive a text it appears (and states from who) right on your iPhone, even if locked. SO it's instant notification. YOu can't tell that from email (all you see is a #), but first you must unlock your phone, then you need to launch Mail. Then to compose it has less steps - no subject, no need for internet connection, etc. And I believe the data really does transfer faster if the respective status gauges are any indication. The GI looks like iCHat so it's much easier to follow a conversation. I can communicate very efficiently, have mutiple dialogues going on, all with a quick glance at my phone. Different strokes for different folks.
Like most cell phones, they are not physically capable to send or receive MMS.
Not true, original Iphone can be jailbroken and install the 3.0 MMS profile. There was a blog on how it was completely possible.
When someone sends an iPhone user an MMS message, instead, they automatically get sent a text message with an ID and password and a website to visit. The iPhone user then goes to that website, enters the ID and password and then immediately gets an error message. Or maybe that was just me.
Sorry, actually, you would supposedly be shown the actual MMS.
Cool, thanks.
I myself prefer email. MMS is what my 16 year old sister does. The rest of the civilized world uses email.
Tethering, though, I'd love. I'd even take it as a "day pass" model since I don't find myself away from wireless much.
I'm on a family plan, with unlimited messaging, out in San Francisco, running iPhone 3GS with OS 3.1
Did people on the West Coast get this message yet?
I have a family plan with unlimited messaging as well. I'm in NYC and haven't gotten the message either.
Why always so frigg'n negative?
And why not? Everybody else that provides unlimited data plans either charges separately for tethering or it is buried so deep, even a minor's light and a pneumatic drill wouldn't help find it.
He's off his med's again.
It's more than the actual speed of the data- it's the whole routine of sending/receiving itself.
OK, but you said speed.
When you receive a text it appears (and states from who) right on your iPhone, even if locked. SO it's instant notification. YOu can't tell that from email (all you see is a #), but first you must unlock your phone, then you need to launch Mail. Then to compose it has less steps - no subject, no need for internet connection, etc. And I believe the data really does transfer faster if the respective status gauges are any indication. The GI looks like iCHat so it's much easier to follow a conversation. I can communicate very efficiently, have mutiple dialogues going on, all with a quick glance at my phone. Different strokes for different folks.
I understand all the steps it takes to send/receive an email and all the steps it takes to send/receive SMS, and I get that it would probably take a whole 5 seconds more to produce an email vs. an MMS message, but I'm trying to understand what makes it so great that people would want to PAY for such a feature for those rare occasions. Or are they not so rare? I mean, how many MMS messages does a person send all day vs. SMS? I regularly have "conversations" with people via SMS, but what kind of conversation would someone have with MMS? Back and forth videos, pictures, contacts?
I myself prefer email. MMS is what my 16 year old sister does. The rest of the civilized world uses email.
I guess that train of thought could also apply to how others view yourself, by those that write actual letters and mail them.
Really? Exactly how much slower is email than an MMS?
For me email is faster, because I'm generally able to send them on wifi. I'd have to have service to use the MMS.
OK- EVERYBody remember. MMS all day 9/25/09 with a pic of the iPhone stating "AT&T SUCKS!" and crash the network!
I am cringing at this announcement because you know AT&T will not be able to support the tons of MMS's that the iPhone clan (including myself) will unleash on that day. Seriously, I wish they would have just randomly rolled it out in 10% cuts of their customer base for iPhone. This has "going to go all wrong" wrote all over it.