OK then, why did you buy unlimited MMS if you don't see any advantage in it or like to mock my reasons?
Tell us, all knowing one.
I didn't buy unlimited MMS. I bought unlimited SMS.
I bought if for my daughter. My Wife and I have written about a couple of dozen SMS's to her over the past year, apiece. Now that she's in the UK in school, we hardly send any. It'll be here when she's home. It only costs $30 a month.
MMS will come as a free upgrade to that.
I have no interest in sending the crappy pics MMS does. If I send pics, I use e-mail.
I have nothing against it for those who want it.
I like to kid you to try to take some of your edge off.
Then why are you commenting obnoxiously on the reasons why I should it have if you have it yourself? Now that's real genius Mel.What are your reasons for buy it?
Well, that's not exactly what I meant, but it'll do.
You left out that Apple's is over one crappy 3G network. I can't wait til Friday.
I haven't read anywhere that this MMS will difer than anywhere else. Link please?
The pics ,etc need to be compressed to be received at the other end. Where did you read that it will be any different?
AT&T's network isn't the best.
We've already established that a long time ago. It's a dead issue.
But Verizon wouldn't be so great either with all the additional strain on their network they would have had if they had the iPhone. Understand that.
I'm not saying that Apple is changing anything, or that all the others using 3G for MMS are either, at least for now. But even with the crappy 3G, as some here would put it, there is still far more bandwidth available to it, so an MMS will take up less transmission time.
Like most cell phones, they are not physically capable to send or receive MMS.
What a load of crap.
First off, I had a "free" camera phone on Verizon years ago that was more than capable of sending and receiving MMS.
Second, MMS is part of the GPRS standard. Anyone with an iPhone on AT&T is well aware of the fact that the iPhone supports GPRS. I would bet that AT&T's crap network kicks people back to GPRS more than they realize. GPRS is also nearly a decade old standard now.
Third, as others have mentioned, theres software that enables the functionality in the original iPhone. Not add-in software, but actually enables the functionality built-in to iPhone OS. Apple not bringing MMS to the original iPhone is just yet another classic example of Apple attempting to force upgrades.
so crashed ATT network friday? and this whole mms thing is really sad 3 yrs ago i was sending mms outside of US to anyone i want in the world granted a little expensive but you can see that its very depressing and hard to get excited over mms
ultimately i blame apple for this failure for having this exclusive thing with att. spread out the iphone to different networks let them fight over the plans and we benefit from it and apple benefits from that too cause i am pretty sure i will be using a iphone right now if it wasnt for the price and att
No MMS msg yet here in Palm Beach County,FL;however AT&T's networked crashed in this area for about 30 minutes during the early afternoon hours. Could this be the beginning of the end for MMS?
Also that 5 seconds compounded daily for 20 messages gets old -fast.
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
i cant tell you stats but i can say from personal experience that the excitement does die down quickly when i was able to send these mms while i was living in asia the first month i probably sent about 10 20 a day but after the first month it was down to practically none.
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
I personally don't take or send pictures from my iPhone all that much. I do however receive, on average, 30 MMS messages a day (currently the weblinks from AT&T). Most of the MMS messages I receive are from friends sending pictures of clothes, shoes etc. that they see in the mall and want input on. I also recieve ALOT of MMS messages from my sister-in-law who takes a picture of everything my nephew does (her first and only child). The way I see it, people always have a cell phone on them, most don't carry a camera everywhere they go. People want to share those pictures as soon as they take them. Sending them via MMS allows them to do so on their "dumb phones" without having to buy a data plan.
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.
I personally don't take or send pictures from my iPhone all that much. I do however receive, on average, 30 MMS messages a day (currently the weblinks from AT&T). Most of the MMS messages I receive are from friends sending pictures of clothes, shoes etc. that they see in the mall and want input on. I also recieve ALOT of MMS messages from my sister-in-law who takes a picture of everything my nephew does (her first and only child). The way I see it, people always have a cell phone on them, most don't carry a camera everywhere they go. People want to share those pictures as soon as they take them. Sending them via MMS allows them to do so on their "dumb phones" without having to buy a data plan.
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.
I can see how if you have many friends or family who do a lot of MMS, you could end up receiving lots of messages. Hopefully this won't be a problem for AT&T customers. There is still some ambiguity as to pricing and how they count MMS messages vs. SMS messages.
I can see how if you have many friends or family who do a lot of MMS, you could end up receiving lots of messages. Hopefully this won't be a problem for AT&T customers. There is still some ambiguity as to pricing and how they count MMS messages vs. SMS messages.
From This PDF from AT&T, as long as you have a messaging bundle MMS will be free. If you don't have a plan you will pay standard pay per use charges for each MMS (I'm assuming, as that's how it works with any AT&T phone without a messaging plan).
This is the section I'm referring too:
Will AT&T offer MMS and tethering?
Yes. Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no
extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone
3GS and iPhone 3G.
Here is the link if you would like to read it yourself:
From This PDF from AT&T, as long as you have a messaging bundle MMS will be free. If you don't have a plan you will pay standard pay per use charges for each MMS (I'm assuming, as that's how it works with any AT&T phone without a messaging plan).
This is the section I'm referring too:
Will AT&T offer MMS and tethering?
Yes. Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no
extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone
3GS and iPhone 3G.
Here is the link if you would like to read it yourself:
Thanks, but the link doesn't seem to work. I did hear that about MMS being free if you already have a messaging package. But a couple of unanswered questions are: Does one MMS message = one SMS message. I heard that one other company counts one MMS message as FOUR SMS messages. Also, what about the person who suddenly gets inundated with unwanted MMS messages. Won't it cost him .30 to receive each MMS message? Is there a way to have AT&T disable MMS on the iPhone, but keep SMS?
I didn't buy unlimited MMS. I bought unlimited SMS.
I bought if for my daughter. My Wife and I have written about a couple of dozen SMS's to her over the past year, apiece. Now that she's in the UK in school, we hardly send any. It'll be here when she's home. It only costs $30 a month.
MMS will come as a free upgrade to that.
I have no interest in sending the crappy pics MMS does. If I send pics, I use e-mail.
I have nothing against it for those who want it.
I like to kid you to try to take some of your edge off.
Mel- I hate to inform you but you've been paying for unlimited MMS- check your bill, I think that is how it's stated. The fact that we've only had SMS is AT&T's incompetence. I know because I have it too.
First off, I had a "free" camera phone on Verizon years ago that was more than capable of sending and receiving MMS.
Second, MMS is part of the GPRS standard. Anyone with an iPhone on AT&T is well aware of the fact that the iPhone supports GPRS. I would bet that AT&T's crap network kicks people back to GPRS more than they realize. GPRS is also nearly a decade old standard now.
Third, as others have mentioned, theres software that enables the functionality in the original iPhone. Not add-in software, but actually enables the functionality built-in to iPhone OS. Apple not bringing MMS to the original iPhone is just yet another classic example of Apple attempting to force upgrades.
I stand corrected that the original iPhone is not MMS-capable. That being said, it does require jailbreaking and from our experience the results have not been 100%.
However, I still contend that the majority of cell phones worldwide are not MMS-capable.
MMS phones didn't come into the market until 2002 and only until 2006 did most new phones come with that capability. If I am not mistaken, even the popular Blackberry 8700's were not all as such capable. In 2006, approximately 2.1 billion cell phones were in use and the majority were not MMS-capable. True, the market has grown, but a lot of 'old' phones are still being used worldwide.
Today nearly all "colour-featured" phones are MMS capable. Not all mind you. And still a significant number of basic phones sold today are not.
It is currently estimated that nearly 45-50% of the currently used cell phones are MMS capable. As they say, 'granny' and 'pre-school' phones are not and there are a lot of them.
How accurate is that figure is anybody's guess. However, considering the current use of MMS messaging, MMS is still in its infancy. Growing rapidly, mind you, and undoubtedly will go through the roof in the very near future, especially as the iPhone and its effect becomes more ubiquitous in the market place. However, its sucess is still predicated on wireless companies allowing and providing the capability, and at a 'reasonable' price.
Incidentally, your phrasing, i.e., "…a lot of crap." doesn't make for an amicable discussion.
I stand corrected that the original iPhone is not MMS-capable. That being said, it does require jailbreaking and from our experience the results have not been 100%.
However, I still contend that the majority of cell phones worldwide are not MMS-capable.
MMS phones didn't come into the market until 2002 and only until 2006 did most new phones come with that capability. If I am not mistaken, even the popular Blackberry 8700's were not all as such capable. In 2006, approximately 2.1 billion cell phones were in use and the majority were not MMS-capable. True, the market has grown, but a lot of 'old' phones are still being used worldwide.
Today nearly all "colour-featured" phones are MMS capable. Not all mind you. And still a significant number of basic phones sold today are not.
It is currently estimated that nearly 45-50% of the currently used cell phones are MMS capable. As they say, 'granny' and 'pre-school' phones are not and there are a lot of them.
How accurate is that figure is anybody's guess. However, considering the current use of MMS messaging, MMS is still in its infancy. Growing rapidly, mind you, and undoubtedly will go through the roof in the very near future, especially as the iPhone and its effect becomes more ubiquitous in the market place. However, its sucess is still predicated on wireless companies allowing and providing the capability, and at a 'reasonable' price.
Incidentally, your phrasing, i.e., "…a lot of crap." doesn't make for an amicable discussion.
Wow...hold the presses...a wireless user has connection problems in San Fran....the land of hills, valleys, concrete & steel structures, and NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) Syndrome...where it can take years to get approval for a new cell tower.
I live in Kansas. The land of plains, no trees, no buildings, put it in my field syndrome and NO they can not seem to deliver a signal to my phone. I'm not talking 3G, I'd be happy with even Edge service and not dropping calls every two minutes. I live within 60 miles of the three biggest cities in the state, on an interstate highway and it still drops calls.
MMS has been able to be sent to an email address since it started.
Most MMS capable phone's have 'contacts' applications capable of saving an email address under a name, yours for example on your sisters phone.
No user names or passwords, the MMS is in your email inbox of choice.
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Originally Posted by azjay
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.
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OK then, why did you buy unlimited MMS if you don't see any advantage in it or like to mock my reasons?
Tell us, all knowing one.
I didn't buy unlimited MMS. I bought unlimited SMS.
I bought if for my daughter. My Wife and I have written about a couple of dozen SMS's to her over the past year, apiece. Now that she's in the UK in school, we hardly send any. It'll be here when she's home. It only costs $30 a month.
MMS will come as a free upgrade to that.
I have no interest in sending the crappy pics MMS does. If I send pics, I use e-mail.
I have nothing against it for those who want it.
I like to kid you to try to take some of your edge off.
Then why are you commenting obnoxiously on the reasons why I should it have if you have it yourself? Now that's real genius Mel.What are your reasons for buy it?
Well, that's not exactly what I meant
I answered it in my response to your other post.
You left out that Apple's is over one crappy 3G network. I can't wait til Friday.
I haven't read anywhere that this MMS will difer than anywhere else. Link please?
The pics ,etc need to be compressed to be received at the other end. Where did you read that it will be any different?
AT&T's network isn't the best.
We've already established that a long time ago. It's a dead issue.
But Verizon wouldn't be so great either with all the additional strain on their network they would have had if they had the iPhone. Understand that.
I'm not saying that Apple is changing anything, or that all the others using 3G for MMS are either, at least for now. But even with the crappy 3G, as some here would put it, there is still far more bandwidth available to it, so an MMS will take up less transmission time.
Like most cell phones, they are not physically capable to send or receive MMS.
What a load of crap.
First off, I had a "free" camera phone on Verizon years ago that was more than capable of sending and receiving MMS.
Second, MMS is part of the GPRS standard. Anyone with an iPhone on AT&T is well aware of the fact that the iPhone supports GPRS. I would bet that AT&T's crap network kicks people back to GPRS more than they realize. GPRS is also nearly a decade old standard now.
Third, as others have mentioned, theres software that enables the functionality in the original iPhone. Not add-in software, but actually enables the functionality built-in to iPhone OS. Apple not bringing MMS to the original iPhone is just yet another classic example of Apple attempting to force upgrades.
ultimately i blame apple for this failure for having this exclusive thing with att. spread out the iphone to different networks let them fight over the plans and we benefit from it and apple benefits from that too cause i am pretty sure i will be using a iphone right now if it wasnt for the price and att
Also that 5 seconds compounded daily for 20 messages gets old -fast.
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
i cant tell you stats but i can say from personal experience that the excitement does die down quickly when i was able to send these mms while i was living in asia the first month i probably sent about 10 20 a day but after the first month it was down to practically none.
Maybe I'm being stubborn, but I still don't buy it. I really am curious about this and I swear I'm not judging anyone. Do you think 20 messages is a realistic number then? Is that an average. For every day? Assuming someone sleeps only 6 hours a night, that's still more one an hour.
I could totally imagine this and more, if we were talking SMS, but we're talking MMS. Pictures, video, etc..., not text messages. I can believe that younger folks could go around taking pictures and sending to their friends via MMS all day, but still, 20 a day?
Anyone know of any real world stats on MMS and the average user?
I personally don't take or send pictures from my iPhone all that much. I do however receive, on average, 30 MMS messages a day (currently the weblinks from AT&T). Most of the MMS messages I receive are from friends sending pictures of clothes, shoes etc. that they see in the mall and want input on. I also recieve ALOT of MMS messages from my sister-in-law who takes a picture of everything my nephew does (her first and only child). The way I see it, people always have a cell phone on them, most don't carry a camera everywhere they go. People want to share those pictures as soon as they take them. Sending them via MMS allows them to do so on their "dumb phones" without having to buy a data plan.
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.
Actually, it would be better to send a video text message to at&t customer service asking them to support net neutrality.
-kpluck
Excellent!
I personally don't take or send pictures from my iPhone all that much. I do however receive, on average, 30 MMS messages a day (currently the weblinks from AT&T). Most of the MMS messages I receive are from friends sending pictures of clothes, shoes etc. that they see in the mall and want input on. I also recieve ALOT of MMS messages from my sister-in-law who takes a picture of everything my nephew does (her first and only child). The way I see it, people always have a cell phone on them, most don't carry a camera everywhere they go. People want to share those pictures as soon as they take them. Sending them via MMS allows them to do so on their "dumb phones" without having to buy a data plan.
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.
I can see how if you have many friends or family who do a lot of MMS, you could end up receiving lots of messages. Hopefully this won't be a problem for AT&T customers. There is still some ambiguity as to pricing and how they count MMS messages vs. SMS messages.
I can see how if you have many friends or family who do a lot of MMS, you could end up receiving lots of messages. Hopefully this won't be a problem for AT&T customers. There is still some ambiguity as to pricing and how they count MMS messages vs. SMS messages.
From This PDF from AT&T, as long as you have a messaging bundle MMS will be free. If you don't have a plan you will pay standard pay per use charges for each MMS (I'm assuming, as that's how it works with any AT&T phone without a messaging plan).
This is the section I'm referring too:
Will AT&T offer MMS and tethering?
Yes. Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no
extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone
3GS and iPhone 3G.
Here is the link if you would like to read it yourself:
http://www.att.com/Common/merger/fil...omers_FAQs.pdf
From This PDF from AT&T, as long as you have a messaging bundle MMS will be free. If you don't have a plan you will pay standard pay per use charges for each MMS (I'm assuming, as that's how it works with any AT&T phone without a messaging plan).
This is the section I'm referring too:
Will AT&T offer MMS and tethering?
Yes. Later this summer, as part of the 3.0 software, AT&T will make multimedia messaging (MMS) available at no
extra cost to customers with a text messaging bundle. And, in the future, AT&T will offer tethering capability for iPhone
3GS and iPhone 3G.
Here is the link if you would like to read it yourself:
http://www.att.com/Common/merger/fil...omers_FAQs.pdf
Thanks, but the link doesn't seem to work. I did hear that about MMS being free if you already have a messaging package. But a couple of unanswered questions are: Does one MMS message = one SMS message. I heard that one other company counts one MMS message as FOUR SMS messages. Also, what about the person who suddenly gets inundated with unwanted MMS messages. Won't it cost him .30 to receive each MMS message? Is there a way to have AT&T disable MMS on the iPhone, but keep SMS?
I didn't buy unlimited MMS. I bought unlimited SMS.
I bought if for my daughter. My Wife and I have written about a couple of dozen SMS's to her over the past year, apiece. Now that she's in the UK in school, we hardly send any. It'll be here when she's home. It only costs $30 a month.
MMS will come as a free upgrade to that.
I have no interest in sending the crappy pics MMS does. If I send pics, I use e-mail.
I have nothing against it for those who want it.
I like to kid you to try to take some of your edge off.
Mel- I hate to inform you but you've been paying for unlimited MMS- check your bill, I think that is how it's stated. The fact that we've only had SMS is AT&T's incompetence. I know because I have it too.
What a load of crap.
First off, I had a "free" camera phone on Verizon years ago that was more than capable of sending and receiving MMS.
Second, MMS is part of the GPRS standard. Anyone with an iPhone on AT&T is well aware of the fact that the iPhone supports GPRS. I would bet that AT&T's crap network kicks people back to GPRS more than they realize. GPRS is also nearly a decade old standard now.
Third, as others have mentioned, theres software that enables the functionality in the original iPhone. Not add-in software, but actually enables the functionality built-in to iPhone OS. Apple not bringing MMS to the original iPhone is just yet another classic example of Apple attempting to force upgrades.
I stand corrected that the original iPhone is not MMS-capable. That being said, it does require jailbreaking and from our experience the results have not been 100%.
However, I still contend that the majority of cell phones worldwide are not MMS-capable.
MMS phones didn't come into the market until 2002 and only until 2006 did most new phones come with that capability. If I am not mistaken, even the popular Blackberry 8700's were not all as such capable. In 2006, approximately 2.1 billion cell phones were in use and the majority were not MMS-capable. True, the market has grown, but a lot of 'old' phones are still being used worldwide.
Today nearly all "colour-featured" phones are MMS capable. Not all mind you. And still a significant number of basic phones sold today are not.
It is currently estimated that nearly 45-50% of the currently used cell phones are MMS capable. As they say, 'granny' and 'pre-school' phones are not and there are a lot of them.
How accurate is that figure is anybody's guess. However, considering the current use of MMS messaging, MMS is still in its infancy. Growing rapidly, mind you, and undoubtedly will go through the roof in the very near future, especially as the iPhone and its effect becomes more ubiquitous in the market place. However, its sucess is still predicated on wireless companies allowing and providing the capability, and at a 'reasonable' price.
Incidentally, your phrasing, i.e., "…a lot of crap." doesn't make for an amicable discussion.
I stand corrected that the original iPhone is not MMS-capable. That being said, it does require jailbreaking and from our experience the results have not been 100%.
However, I still contend that the majority of cell phones worldwide are not MMS-capable.
MMS phones didn't come into the market until 2002 and only until 2006 did most new phones come with that capability. If I am not mistaken, even the popular Blackberry 8700's were not all as such capable. In 2006, approximately 2.1 billion cell phones were in use and the majority were not MMS-capable. True, the market has grown, but a lot of 'old' phones are still being used worldwide.
Today nearly all "colour-featured" phones are MMS capable. Not all mind you. And still a significant number of basic phones sold today are not.
It is currently estimated that nearly 45-50% of the currently used cell phones are MMS capable. As they say, 'granny' and 'pre-school' phones are not and there are a lot of them.
How accurate is that figure is anybody's guess. However, considering the current use of MMS messaging, MMS is still in its infancy. Growing rapidly, mind you, and undoubtedly will go through the roof in the very near future, especially as the iPhone and its effect becomes more ubiquitous in the market place. However, its sucess is still predicated on wireless companies allowing and providing the capability, and at a 'reasonable' price.
Incidentally, your phrasing, i.e., "…a lot of crap." doesn't make for an amicable discussion.
Where are you getting your information from?
Where are you getting your information from?
We pay for independent market research studies, which by contract most of the information cannot be divulged. At least not for nothing.
Joys of being a researcher.
Wow...hold the presses...a wireless user has connection problems in San Fran....the land of hills, valleys, concrete & steel structures, and NIMBY (Not In My BackYard) Syndrome...where it can take years to get approval for a new cell tower.
I live in Kansas. The land of plains, no trees, no buildings, put it in my field syndrome and NO they can not seem to deliver a signal to my phone. I'm not talking 3G, I'd be happy with even Edge service and not dropping calls every two minutes. I live within 60 miles of the three biggest cities in the state, on an interstate highway and it still drops calls.
Most MMS capable phone's have 'contacts' applications capable of saving an email address under a name, yours for example on your sisters phone.
No user names or passwords, the MMS is in your email inbox of choice.
Although I don't send pictures, being able to view the ones i get sent daily without having to jot down a user name and password would be a lot easier.