Apple obviously provided it to people who want to use it.
I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
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Yeah then why did Apple give it to us at all? By your inane logic we should never even be discussing this issue. Just because you don't use it (most likely because you've owned an iPhone for 2 years and 3 months and 10 hours- probably waited in the loser line as well) and have never had it, everyone else uses it. You really need to get over it- Apple has listened and all of us who've waited over 2 years to buy iPhones are happy with it.
There was MMS software for the iPhone before Apple provided it. I'm not sure why one would be needed to work with Apple's software.
Because Apple tells their software to check the type of iPhone it is running on and intentionally disable the feature. People have been creating hacks that bypass checks of this nature for years. I'd say 95 out of 100 times the software works just fine but clearly Apple wanted people to go buy new stuff. These types of bypasses have been done often for software like iMovie, Garage Band and Final Cut Pro.
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Like I said I don't hang around middle school crowd. Most of my friends are grown ups with smartphones.
I'm a 39 year old man and according to your profile, you are 37 years old. I hang out with age appropriate people and would request you stop the backhanded personal attacks. My phone is used for a lot more than calling my friends.
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This is probably an example of the entrepreneurial spirit in the US to exploit all means of making money. Text spam happens here.
I live in California. Perhaps you should just stop trying to allege all manner of things against people.
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Well every modern phone can send messages. That in itself isn't much of a marketing tactic. My point is that the Blackberry is marketed as a superior email device. That is an important function that is widely used.
Many devices can send email. As you note marketing as being superior at a feature is often an advantage. The fact that Blackberry is can do email better doesn't mean email sucks, or that others cannot do it. This is true of MMS as well. Phones with qwerty keyboards simply note they can message better and likewise phones with higher megapixel cameras claim the ability to picture message better. You combine the two as many have done and you have a class of phones claiming the be the best messaging phone all taking 2-5 megapixel shots and sending them to each other at 300k per message. These phones aren't hard to find. ENV3 is a prime example of what is going on.
I won't pay for another iBone that can't multi task. What good is 75,000 apps when you have to run them one at a time.
Maybe by the time my contract expires you'll have a camera on your iPhone (sorry meant iPod Touch) and Apple will let you have Google Voice but with No Flash.
I'm tired of being thrown tid bits of last years crap for new upgrades. You're the rooms smart ass I'd think you'd have figured out, you're being hand fed Apple's Bull Shit.
Thank God for cut & paste huh? Now it won't take you as long to post the same drivel in several different threads like you do .. btw, in spite of what you think, your nonsense is not very entertaining ... try something original ... even if that's a concept that microshaft shills like yourself are not familar with.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
Interesting... My boss called about his AT&T account and while speaking with the rep he was told MMS would work over the Edge network (we BARELY have 3G here ...I would say it works 10% of the time unless you are near the AT&T call center in Davenport) it's just not being enabled on the original Iphone for some reason.
Edge currently supports MMS for every other phone so it makes sense that it would still work. We are just concerned because we were told MMS would only work on the 3G phones because it used the 3G network. In reality the 3G and 3Gs phones here wouldn't be able to use MMS regardless due to the spotty coverage. Anyone know if that is really true or the rep is just full of crap? (With past experience I am suprised the reps can manage to feed themselves everyday so it's probably just BS).
In regards to the big Email ordeal...I don't get it.. if I want to send a picture to someone right now I am still using bandwidth.. I send my emails over Edge or 3G (if it's available).... I'm using the bandwidth either way right? How is their network going to get saturated by MMS unless people actually use it more than email?
Apple obviously provided it to people who want to use it.
I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
I know texting is defintely faster from my experiences and I would think MMS will be the same. At least is was with Verizon. But wouldn't it be theroretically anyway- no server to go through, etc, etc?
I purchased the 3G on the promise of MMS, Background Apps. Al of which were Bullshit for the 3G and still is until Friday (unless you accept Pop ups for notification as background). I think their worse than browser advertising. You're in a meeting wih your phone on the desk and you get a text. Hey Honey come home for lunch for a nooner.
8 people in the room get to see you're getting lucky for lunch. Total Failure.
Because Apple tells their software to check the type of iPhone it is running on and intentionally disable the feature. People have been creating hacks that bypass checks of this nature for years. I'd say 95 out of 100 times the software works just fine but clearly Apple wanted people to go buy new stuff. These types of bypasses have been done often for software like iMovie, Garage Band and Final Cut Pro.
Are you saying that MMS within iPhone OS works on the original iPhone and Apple disables it for no reason? If this were true there would be more talk about it. I've never read this anywhere. Can you provide some other type of substantial info about it.
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I'm a 39 year old man and according to your profile, you are 37 years old. I hang out with age appropriate people and would request you stop the backhanded personal attacks. My phone is used for a lot more than calling my friends.
Its not my intent to insult you specifically. My point is that yes I see teenagers use SMS/MMS frequently because for the most part their parents are not paying for data.
Most professional people in my age group have smartphones. Where their are far options for transferring media. With email, facebook, twitter, youtube, and flickr their is far less need to use MMS. I'm saying in our age group these are more popular media services than MMS.
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I live in California. Perhaps you should just stop trying to allege all manner of things against people.
Alright, I did not know it was an insult to assume someone my not be an American.
Be that has it may, there is SMS spam. Its not as wide spread as email. That's because email is a far bigger and efficient system.
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Many devices can send email. As you note marketing as being superior at a feature is often an advantage. The fact that Blackberry is can do email better doesn't mean email sucks, or that others cannot do it. This is true of MMS as well. Phones with qwerty keyboards simply note they can message better and likewise phones with higher megapixel cameras claim the ability to picture message better. You combine the two as many have done and you have a class of phones claiming the be the best messaging phone all taking 2-5 megapixel shots and sending them to each other at 300k per message. These phones aren't hard to find. ENV3 is a prime example of what is going on.
You can only effectively market a feature if that feature is desirable to use. My point is that email is a desirable feature that Blackberry has built their entire business around.
My question which has still gone unanswered is "what phone has been successfully marketed around it superior SMS/MMS ability?"
No one outside of Verizon is impressed with the ENV3. For a Verizon customer its the best of some pretty bad choices.
Why do you insult anyone and everyone who has a valid point against Apple? Criticize yourself.
Valid points are welcome (emphasis on valid). I only insult those trolls & shills who consistently insult our intelligence with mis-information, but you are more than welcome to insult me ... I'm a big boy, I can take it.
No survey, its mostly anecdotal with a little bit of common sense. I can say for sure most people in the US don't use MMS.
Its the fact that I receive several emails a day, the fact that most of my facebook friends make frequent posts, most of the organizations I follow on twitter make tweets. Few people send me texts and rarely does anyone send me a MMS message. These are the common ways I find that most people communicate.
Most parents disengage teens away from texting huh...... At this point if you are under the age of 25 you would be socially shunned if you were not able to send/receive a text message.
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Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
MMS probably is faster. Its essentially using the same system for sending voice calls and it uses smaller amounts of data. So it should be instantaneous.
There are so many variables between the email sender and the email receiver, I would think it difficult to say exactly why that email may have taken so long. Along with the fact that email is designed to send much larger and more various types of information than MMS.
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Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
Apple obviously provided it to people who want to use it.
I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
I'll give you a reason many people use SMS/MMS much more over email and it has nothing to do with any of the strange rationalizations posted above, SMS/MMS is by its very nature a PUSH service. Apple still is trying to get Push right, especially with email.
It has nothing to do with age or with income. It has everything to do with knowing that the message will be delivered immediately and when it does the person on the other in will be notified and almost always respond to it immediately.
Who cares if it is the only option or best? McDonalds doesn't make the best or only cheeseburger or chicken sandwich but the certainly sell plenty of them. These strange rationales you keep putting up don't match reality. In reality people buy plenty of messaging phones and plans. They do so in numbers much larger than smartphones or data plans. Apple isn't adding MMS to address imaginary concerns.
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Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
Does anyone on here really have any kids or friends that have kids? There is a reason the kids all use text messaging. It is because they do not offer unlimited family plan calling minute plans but they do offer unlimited texting for family plans. When everyone in the family can text until their brains pop out for $20-$30 but unlimited calling is often still $50-99 per phone, it is easy to see which option most families tell their kids to avail themselves of in their need to stay in touch with their friends.
Also there can be a large DISadvantage to voice and email when in areas where the coverage is questionable. You get yourself down to that last bar and voice may not work nor will 3g data be available but a phone can still often send out a text/pic.
Tenobell when most of us GROW UP, it isn't about just what we can buy ourselves with our money. It is often what do we have to buy the other members of the household including those who do not earn any money as well. This is where the imperfect compromises that make up MMS and SMS make sense.
It is just about communication. Ever had little brother tattle on big sister when she folds her skirt at the waist to make it shorter or leaves the house wearing lip gloss but arrives at school wearing lip stick? Ever had the wife out shopping and send you a pic of something she is considering purchasing and wants your thoughts? Ever had a friend send you pics of what you are missing when you stay home Friday instead of going out? MMS works fine for all of these situations and they are profoundly common. At least they are in the circles in which I run.
I know texting is defintely faster from my experiences and I would think MMS will be the same. At least is was with Verizon. But wouldn't it be theroretically anyway- no server to go through, etc, etc?
What makes you think MMS/SMS doesn't go through a server?
No survey, its mostly anecdotal with a little bit of common sense. I can say for sure most people in the US don't use MMS.
Its the fact that I receive several emails a day, the fact that most of my facebook friends make frequent posts, most of the organizations I follow on twitter make tweets. Few people send me texts and rarely does anyone send me a MMS message. These are the common ways I find that most people communicate.
Most parents disengage teens away from texting huh...... At this point if you are under the age of 25 you would be socially shunned if you were not able to send/receive a text message.
You're from Brooklyn and don't know cellphones aren't even allowed in public schools?
All you facts are based on your own useage and assumptions, and you generalize based on your own history. Baseless.
I'll give you a reason many people use SMS/MMS much more over email and it has nothing to do with any of the strange rationalizations posted above, SMS/MMS is by its very nature a PUSH service. Apple still is trying to get Push right, especially with email.
It has nothing to do with age or with income. It has everything to do with knowing that the message will be delivered immediately and when it does the person on the other in will be notified and almost always respond to it immediately.
Who cares if it is the only option or best? McDonalds doesn't make the best or only cheeseburger or chicken sandwich but the certainly sell plenty of them. These strange rationales you keep putting up don't match reality. In reality people buy plenty of messaging phones and plans. They do so in numbers much larger than smartphones or data plans. Apple isn't adding MMS to address imaginary concerns.
Does anyone on here really have any kids or friends that have kids? There is a reason the kids all use text messaging. It is because they do not offer unlimited family plan calling minute plans but they do offer unlimited texting for family plans. When everyone in the family can text until their brains pop out for $20-$30 but unlimited calling is often still $50-99 per phone, it is easy to see which option most families tell their kids to avail themselves of in their need to stay in touch with their friends.
Also there can be a large DISadvantage to voice and email when in areas where the coverage is questionable. You get yourself down to that last bar and voice may not work nor will 3g data be available but a phone can still often send out a text/pic.
Tenobell when most of us GROW UP, it isn't about just what we can buy ourselves with our money. It is often what do we have to buy the other members of the household including those who do not earn any money as well. This is where the imperfect compromises that make up MMS and SMS make sense.
It is just about communication. Ever had little brother tattle on big sister when she folds her skirt at the waist to make it shorter or leaves the house wearing lip gloss but arrives at school wearing lip stick? Ever had the wife out shopping and send you a pic of something she is considering purchasing and wants your thoughts? Ever had a friend send you pics of what you are missing when you stay home Friday instead of going out? MMS works fine for all of these situations and they are profoundly common. At least they are in the circles in which I run.
At this point I'm beginning to think TenoBell has no friends.
Now when they actually, if ever, get around to turning tethering on. That would be worth waking up early over.
I still want to know exactly how tethering works. Does the iPhone have all of its features such as calling, emailing, maps, web browsing etc simultaneously while blue tooth connecting to a MacBook? Reason I ask is, that I already have a Sierra 3G card for my MBP and I find that I am often on a call while using the internet on the MBP. Will it be the same with tethering?
If so I would suspect that there are quite a few others who like me are paying $80 per month for the connect card which will no longer be needed. That's got to hurt AT&Ts bottom line if we all cancel our extra service.
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I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
Yeah then why did Apple give it to us at all? By your inane logic we should never even be discussing this issue. Just because you don't use it (most likely because you've owned an iPhone for 2 years and 3 months and 10 hours- probably waited in the loser line as well) and have never had it, everyone else uses it. You really need to get over it- Apple has listened and all of us who've waited over 2 years to buy iPhones are happy with it.
There was MMS software for the iPhone before Apple provided it. I'm not sure why one would be needed to work with Apple's software.
Because Apple tells their software to check the type of iPhone it is running on and intentionally disable the feature. People have been creating hacks that bypass checks of this nature for years. I'd say 95 out of 100 times the software works just fine but clearly Apple wanted people to go buy new stuff. These types of bypasses have been done often for software like iMovie, Garage Band and Final Cut Pro.
Like I said I don't hang around middle school crowd. Most of my friends are grown ups with smartphones.
I'm a 39 year old man and according to your profile, you are 37 years old. I hang out with age appropriate people and would request you stop the backhanded personal attacks. My phone is used for a lot more than calling my friends.
This is probably an example of the entrepreneurial spirit in the US to exploit all means of making money. Text spam happens here.
I live in California. Perhaps you should just stop trying to allege all manner of things against people.
Well every modern phone can send messages. That in itself isn't much of a marketing tactic. My point is that the Blackberry is marketed as a superior email device. That is an important function that is widely used.
Many devices can send email. As you note marketing as being superior at a feature is often an advantage. The fact that Blackberry is can do email better doesn't mean email sucks, or that others cannot do it. This is true of MMS as well. Phones with qwerty keyboards simply note they can message better and likewise phones with higher megapixel cameras claim the ability to picture message better. You combine the two as many have done and you have a class of phones claiming the be the best messaging phone all taking 2-5 megapixel shots and sending them to each other at 300k per message. These phones aren't hard to find. ENV3 is a prime example of what is going on.
I won't pay for another iBone that can't multi task. What good is 75,000 apps when you have to run them one at a time.
Maybe by the time my contract expires you'll have a camera on your iPhone (sorry meant iPod Touch) and Apple will let you have Google Voice but with No Flash.
I'm tired of being thrown tid bits of last years crap for new upgrades. You're the rooms smart ass I'd think you'd have figured out, you're being hand fed Apple's Bull Shit.
Thank God for cut & paste huh? Now it won't take you as long to post the same drivel in several different threads like you do .. btw, in spite of what you think, your nonsense is not very entertaining ... try something original ... even if that's a concept that microshaft shills like yourself are not familar with.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
Tell that to Nokia. The largest phone manufacturer in the World. 80% of their phones don't have email but have MMS I'd call Bull Shit.
Apple tried to mold their users into what they think you need.
I'm a consumer, I know what I want and need in my products. I don't need Apple or Steve jobs to tell me.
No, what you need is less anger and more brain.
Edge currently supports MMS for every other phone so it makes sense that it would still work. We are just concerned because we were told MMS would only work on the 3G phones because it used the 3G network. In reality the 3G and 3Gs phones here wouldn't be able to use MMS regardless due to the spotty coverage. Anyone know if that is really true or the rep is just full of crap? (With past experience I am suprised the reps can manage to feed themselves everyday so it's probably just BS).
In regards to the big Email ordeal...I don't get it.. if I want to send a picture to someone right now I am still using bandwidth.. I send my emails over Edge or 3G (if it's available).... I'm using the bandwidth either way right? How is their network going to get saturated by MMS unless people actually use it more than email?
Apple obviously provided it to people who want to use it.
I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
No, what you need is less anger and more brain.
Why do you insult anyone and everyone who has a valid point against Apple? Criticize yourself.
Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
I know texting is defintely faster from my experiences and I would think MMS will be the same. At least is was with Verizon. But wouldn't it be theroretically anyway- no server to go through, etc, etc?
I purchased the 3G on the promise of MMS, Background Apps. Al of which were Bullshit for the 3G and still is until Friday (unless you accept Pop ups for notification as background). I think their worse than browser advertising. You're in a meeting wih your phone on the desk and you get a text. Hey Honey come home for lunch for a nooner.
8 people in the room get to see you're getting lucky for lunch. Total Failure.
Keep track of your life. I've got mine in order.
That's probably a message you'll never get!
Because Apple tells their software to check the type of iPhone it is running on and intentionally disable the feature. People have been creating hacks that bypass checks of this nature for years. I'd say 95 out of 100 times the software works just fine but clearly Apple wanted people to go buy new stuff. These types of bypasses have been done often for software like iMovie, Garage Band and Final Cut Pro.
Are you saying that MMS within iPhone OS works on the original iPhone and Apple disables it for no reason? If this were true there would be more talk about it. I've never read this anywhere. Can you provide some other type of substantial info about it.
I'm a 39 year old man and according to your profile, you are 37 years old. I hang out with age appropriate people and would request you stop the backhanded personal attacks. My phone is used for a lot more than calling my friends.
Its not my intent to insult you specifically. My point is that yes I see teenagers use SMS/MMS frequently because for the most part their parents are not paying for data.
Most professional people in my age group have smartphones. Where their are far options for transferring media. With email, facebook, twitter, youtube, and flickr their is far less need to use MMS. I'm saying in our age group these are more popular media services than MMS.
I live in California. Perhaps you should just stop trying to allege all manner of things against people.
Alright, I did not know it was an insult to assume someone my not be an American.
Be that has it may, there is SMS spam. Its not as wide spread as email. That's because email is a far bigger and efficient system.
Many devices can send email. As you note marketing as being superior at a feature is often an advantage. The fact that Blackberry is can do email better doesn't mean email sucks, or that others cannot do it. This is true of MMS as well. Phones with qwerty keyboards simply note they can message better and likewise phones with higher megapixel cameras claim the ability to picture message better. You combine the two as many have done and you have a class of phones claiming the be the best messaging phone all taking 2-5 megapixel shots and sending them to each other at 300k per message. These phones aren't hard to find. ENV3 is a prime example of what is going on.
You can only effectively market a feature if that feature is desirable to use. My point is that email is a desirable feature that Blackberry has built their entire business around.
My question which has still gone unanswered is "what phone has been successfully marketed around it superior SMS/MMS ability?"
No one outside of Verizon is impressed with the ENV3. For a Verizon customer its the best of some pretty bad choices.
Why do you insult anyone and everyone who has a valid point against Apple? Criticize yourself.
Valid points are welcome (emphasis on valid). I only insult those trolls & shills who consistently insult our intelligence with mis-information, but you are more than welcome to insult me ... I'm a big boy, I can take it.
Its the fact that I receive several emails a day, the fact that most of my facebook friends make frequent posts, most of the organizations I follow on twitter make tweets. Few people send me texts and rarely does anyone send me a MMS message. These are the common ways I find that most people communicate.
Most parents disengage teens away from texting huh...... At this point if you are under the age of 25 you would be socially shunned if you were not able to send/receive a text message.
Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
There are so many variables between the email sender and the email receiver, I would think it difficult to say exactly why that email may have taken so long. Along with the fact that email is designed to send much larger and more various types of information than MMS.
Do you or anyone else know if MMS gets faster response times? I've had iphone emailed photos take an hour to get delivered to me on three occasions, I don't know why. I am not the iphone user, just the recipient, I don't know if they're doing something wrong or not.
Apple obviously provided it to people who want to use it.
I'm sure SMS/MMS is most popular with people who have basic feature phones and have no access to data features. Which would largely be teenagers whose parents don't feel they want or need data. The other group limited to SMS/MMS would be people on Verizon because of their crap phones.
My point is that when people grow up, make their own money an can afford a smartphone. MMS is not the only or even the best option for sending media. When given a choice most people don't frequently use MMS.
You are correct I haven't used MMS over the two years I've had an iPhone. The reason that hasn't been a problem is because people rarely send me MMS messages.
I'll give you a reason many people use SMS/MMS much more over email and it has nothing to do with any of the strange rationalizations posted above, SMS/MMS is by its very nature a PUSH service. Apple still is trying to get Push right, especially with email.
It has nothing to do with age or with income. It has everything to do with knowing that the message will be delivered immediately and when it does the person on the other in will be notified and almost always respond to it immediately.
Who cares if it is the only option or best? McDonalds doesn't make the best or only cheeseburger or chicken sandwich but the certainly sell plenty of them. These strange rationales you keep putting up don't match reality. In reality people buy plenty of messaging phones and plans. They do so in numbers much larger than smartphones or data plans. Apple isn't adding MMS to address imaginary concerns.
Again why do you make statements like that? Most people? From what survey? Why- we have been given a choice and we do use MMS (actually just SMS texting) more than email.
It's faster and more convenient. And we pay more for it because we make more money and can afford it than teens. Most parents disengage teens texting anyway so your points are not really adding up. Sorry- just because you don't doesn't mean only teens do.
Does anyone on here really have any kids or friends that have kids? There is a reason the kids all use text messaging. It is because they do not offer unlimited family plan calling minute plans but they do offer unlimited texting for family plans. When everyone in the family can text until their brains pop out for $20-$30 but unlimited calling is often still $50-99 per phone, it is easy to see which option most families tell their kids to avail themselves of in their need to stay in touch with their friends.
Also there can be a large DISadvantage to voice and email when in areas where the coverage is questionable. You get yourself down to that last bar and voice may not work nor will 3g data be available but a phone can still often send out a text/pic.
Tenobell when most of us GROW UP, it isn't about just what we can buy ourselves with our money. It is often what do we have to buy the other members of the household including those who do not earn any money as well. This is where the imperfect compromises that make up MMS and SMS make sense.
It is just about communication. Ever had little brother tattle on big sister when she folds her skirt at the waist to make it shorter or leaves the house wearing lip gloss but arrives at school wearing lip stick? Ever had the wife out shopping and send you a pic of something she is considering purchasing and wants your thoughts? Ever had a friend send you pics of what you are missing when you stay home Friday instead of going out? MMS works fine for all of these situations and they are profoundly common. At least they are in the circles in which I run.
I know texting is defintely faster from my experiences and I would think MMS will be the same. At least is was with Verizon. But wouldn't it be theroretically anyway- no server to go through, etc, etc?
What makes you think MMS/SMS doesn't go through a server?
No survey, its mostly anecdotal with a little bit of common sense. I can say for sure most people in the US don't use MMS.
Its the fact that I receive several emails a day, the fact that most of my facebook friends make frequent posts, most of the organizations I follow on twitter make tweets. Few people send me texts and rarely does anyone send me a MMS message. These are the common ways I find that most people communicate.
Most parents disengage teens away from texting huh...... At this point if you are under the age of 25 you would be socially shunned if you were not able to send/receive a text message.
You're from Brooklyn and don't know cellphones aren't even allowed in public schools?
All you facts are based on your own useage and assumptions, and you generalize based on your own history. Baseless.
What makes you think MMS/SMS doesn't go through a server?
An internet server?
What makes you think it does?
What's the domain?
I'll give you a reason many people use SMS/MMS much more over email and it has nothing to do with any of the strange rationalizations posted above, SMS/MMS is by its very nature a PUSH service. Apple still is trying to get Push right, especially with email.
It has nothing to do with age or with income. It has everything to do with knowing that the message will be delivered immediately and when it does the person on the other in will be notified and almost always respond to it immediately.
Who cares if it is the only option or best? McDonalds doesn't make the best or only cheeseburger or chicken sandwich but the certainly sell plenty of them. These strange rationales you keep putting up don't match reality. In reality people buy plenty of messaging phones and plans. They do so in numbers much larger than smartphones or data plans. Apple isn't adding MMS to address imaginary concerns.
Does anyone on here really have any kids or friends that have kids? There is a reason the kids all use text messaging. It is because they do not offer unlimited family plan calling minute plans but they do offer unlimited texting for family plans. When everyone in the family can text until their brains pop out for $20-$30 but unlimited calling is often still $50-99 per phone, it is easy to see which option most families tell their kids to avail themselves of in their need to stay in touch with their friends.
Also there can be a large DISadvantage to voice and email when in areas where the coverage is questionable. You get yourself down to that last bar and voice may not work nor will 3g data be available but a phone can still often send out a text/pic.
Tenobell when most of us GROW UP, it isn't about just what we can buy ourselves with our money. It is often what do we have to buy the other members of the household including those who do not earn any money as well. This is where the imperfect compromises that make up MMS and SMS make sense.
It is just about communication. Ever had little brother tattle on big sister when she folds her skirt at the waist to make it shorter or leaves the house wearing lip gloss but arrives at school wearing lip stick? Ever had the wife out shopping and send you a pic of something she is considering purchasing and wants your thoughts? Ever had a friend send you pics of what you are missing when you stay home Friday instead of going out? MMS works fine for all of these situations and they are profoundly common. At least they are in the circles in which I run.
At this point I'm beginning to think TenoBell has no friends.
Now when they actually, if ever, get around to turning tethering on. That would be worth waking up early over.
I still want to know exactly how tethering works. Does the iPhone have all of its features such as calling, emailing, maps, web browsing etc simultaneously while blue tooth connecting to a MacBook? Reason I ask is, that I already have a Sierra 3G card for my MBP and I find that I am often on a call while using the internet on the MBP. Will it be the same with tethering?
If so I would suspect that there are quite a few others who like me are paying $80 per month for the connect card which will no longer be needed. That's got to hurt AT&Ts bottom line if we all cancel our extra service.