As I mentioned in another post, you're both wrong. The "dock" concept first appeared on the Acorn Archimedes in 1987.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
How is this a "toss up"? After Pogue got called out for his objectivity since he's also known as a fanboy, Mossberg, like Leo Laporte, is now over compensating by giving W7 glowing ass kissing.
Leo Laporte is a shill to whatever radio show (netcast) he's hosting at that particulate time. He's a fake. All smiles, all cool radio voice. No genuine character.
This is his modus operandi. He does this all the time. I called him on it in two unrelated threads yesterday. He starts off by bringing up some unrelated topic, then gets proven wrong, then slightly twists what he originally said, then blames you for "not paying attention".
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic. This news is driving you crazy about W7 - I'm very sorry.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
Now you're a down and out liar- show me where I posed that question. You still haven't answered my basic question
Which came first in a public OS- Microsoft's taskbar or Apple's Dock? And give the year of each's debut.
End of story.
I realize your at all sorts today with this kind of news story- but really?
User account control can't be set with exceptions (ie. don't ask me when I open this program) as far as I know. It is basically on or off, which in my opinion, isn't good for a security solution as some users will get annoyed and turn it off completely. BUT you can choose whether or not the screen goes grey when the user account control dialog box pops up.
User account control is the thing I hate the most with Windows Vista/7.
You are wrong. In Vista UAC was on or off. In windows 7 there is a slider that you get to chose how annoying uac is. This slider works pretty well.
IF people are going to bash windows 7 at least make sure you know what you are bashing.
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic.
NeXT's implementation was first, for the last time. OS X is NeXTSTEP. Get it through your thick head.
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic.
This is what I meant by "slightly twists what he originally said". The original question is back in post #35.
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Originally Posted by teckstud
Who stole the task bar from Microsoft and named it a DOCK?
Mossberg states it restarts faster on his Lenovo than SL.
Do you find it a copy of Vista or very different?
I have to admit, I've not used Vista all that much. At work we never moved away from XP, and Windows 7 is much different to XP in terms of appearance. From what little I've used Vista, it definitely annoys you less. When I used Vista I found it never left you alone, Windows 7 seems more like OSX in terms of "security" questions.
This was a great article for Appleinsider - bound to get the fanboys up in arms!
I've been running Windows 7 on my iMac for a while now and I have to say, it's good. It's speedy, doesn't bother me with needless messages and is very stable. In honesty, I've not seen a crash of Windows for years (I use a PC at work), with the exception of a couple of months ago when the memory in my laptop bit the dust, and I'm pretty sure that would take down Mac OS as well!
I was surprised that Windows 7 actually booted quicker on my Mac than OSX did until Snow Leopard came along, and now the normal order has been restored, though not by much.
For all the complaints about the registry, I've had no problems with that since Windows 98.
That said, I do think Mac OS has the edge still, but the question is, would that edge be enough to make me switch?
Good points.
Though the power of the Mac isn't the OS alone, it's the reliability and peace of mind you get from having the same company make both parts. This is something Microsoft cannot match. Not to mention the quality of hardware is invariably better in a number of ways.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
Oh, I misunderstood, so sorry for saying you're both wrong.
I do think you're both a bit strange though - who gives a shit!!!
This is his modus operandi. He does this all the time. I called him on it in two unrelated threads yesterday. He starts off by bringing up some unrelated topic, then gets proven wrong, then slightly twists what he originally said, then blames you for "not paying attention".
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic. This news is driving you crazy about W7 - I'm very sorry.
Though the power of the Mac isn't the OS alone, it's the reliability and peace of mind you get from having the same company make both parts. This is something Microsoft cannot match. Not to mention the quality of hardware is invariably better in a number of ways.
Yes, I agree. With PC you are far more likely to end up with a piece of hardware in there that installs a driver that makes it go mad!
If I did so it was a mistake. Though to be sure you'll have to point me to that comment where I called it that. To be honest, at this stage I wouldn't put it past you simply making this up.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
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As I mentioned in another post, you're both wrong. The "dock" concept first appeared on the Acorn Archimedes in 1987.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
How is this a "toss up"? After Pogue got called out for his objectivity since he's also known as a fanboy, Mossberg, like Leo Laporte, is now over compensating by giving W7 glowing ass kissing.
Leo Laporte is a shill to whatever radio show (netcast) he's hosting at that particulate time. He's a fake. All smiles, all cool radio voice. No genuine character.
This is his modus operandi. He does this all the time. I called him on it in two unrelated threads yesterday. He starts off by bringing up some unrelated topic, then gets proven wrong, then slightly twists what he originally said, then blames you for "not paying attention".
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic. This news is driving you crazy about W7 - I'm very sorry.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
Now you're a down and out liar- show me where I posed that question. You still haven't answered my basic question
Which came first in a public OS- Microsoft's taskbar or Apple's Dock? And give the year of each's debut.
End of story.
I realize your at all sorts today with this kind of news story- but really?
User account control can't be set with exceptions (ie. don't ask me when I open this program) as far as I know. It is basically on or off, which in my opinion, isn't good for a security solution as some users will get annoyed and turn it off completely. BUT you can choose whether or not the screen goes grey when the user account control dialog box pops up.
User account control is the thing I hate the most with Windows Vista/7.
You are wrong. In Vista UAC was on or off. In windows 7 there is a slider that you get to chose how annoying uac is. This slider works pretty well.
IF people are going to bash windows 7 at least make sure you know what you are bashing.
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic.
NeXT's implementation was first, for the last time. OS X is NeXTSTEP. Get it through your thick head.
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic.
This is what I meant by "slightly twists what he originally said". The original question is back in post #35.
Who stole the task bar from Microsoft and named it a DOCK?
no- READ MOSSBERG first before posting idiotic put downs and categorizing it as VISTA-
IT'S NOT VISTA AT ALL.
You have definitely lost your mind. Go back and read my Windows 7 comments on page 5.
If you can't take the time to read my comments then don't come up trying to criticize my opinions when you don't even know them.
You are wrong. In Vista UAC was on or off. In windows 7 there is a slider that you get to chose how annoying uac is. This slider works pretty well.
IF people are going to bash windows 7 at least make sure you know what you are bashing.
Sorry, I have not used Windows 7, but just the way you worded that made me laugh.
Mossberg states it restarts faster on his Lenovo than SL.
Do you find it a copy of Vista or very different?
I have to admit, I've not used Vista all that much. At work we never moved away from XP, and Windows 7 is much different to XP in terms of appearance. From what little I've used Vista, it definitely annoys you less. When I used Vista I found it never left you alone, Windows 7 seems more like OSX in terms of "security" questions.
This was a great article for Appleinsider - bound to get the fanboys up in arms!
I've been running Windows 7 on my iMac for a while now and I have to say, it's good. It's speedy, doesn't bother me with needless messages and is very stable. In honesty, I've not seen a crash of Windows for years (I use a PC at work), with the exception of a couple of months ago when the memory in my laptop bit the dust, and I'm pretty sure that would take down Mac OS as well!
I was surprised that Windows 7 actually booted quicker on my Mac than OSX did until Snow Leopard came along, and now the normal order has been restored, though not by much.
For all the complaints about the registry, I've had no problems with that since Windows 98.
That said, I do think Mac OS has the edge still, but the question is, would that edge be enough to make me switch?
Good points.
Though the power of the Mac isn't the OS alone, it's the reliability and peace of mind you get from having the same company make both parts. This is something Microsoft cannot match. Not to mention the quality of hardware is invariably better in a number of ways.
Actually, the argument isn't even about where a dock-like feature first appeared, but simply whether NeXTStep/OpenStep/Mac OS X stole it from the Windows Taskbar. Yes, absurd, I know.
Oh, I misunderstood, so sorry for saying you're both wrong.
I do think you're both a bit strange though - who gives a shit!!!
This is his modus operandi. He does this all the time. I called him on it in two unrelated threads yesterday. He starts off by bringing up some unrelated topic, then gets proven wrong, then slightly twists what he originally said, then blames you for "not paying attention".
This shi-at is comical!
You have definitely lost your mind. Go back and read my Windows 7 comments on page 5.
If you can't take the time to read my comments then don't come up trying to criticize my opinions when you don't even know them.
Then why are you calling it V7?
You fanboyz may think you've proven me wrong but you haven't at all. How have you? Who had the dock in the public's hands first? MS or APPL? No one will answer. Pathetic. This news is driving you crazy about W7 - I'm very sorry.
I like Windows 7.
You are the crazy person.
Good points.
Though the power of the Mac isn't the OS alone, it's the reliability and peace of mind you get from having the same company make both parts. This is something Microsoft cannot match. Not to mention the quality of hardware is invariably better in a number of ways.
Yes, I agree. With PC you are far more likely to end up with a piece of hardware in there that installs a driver that makes it go mad!
Oh, I misunderstood, so sorry for saying you're both wrong.
I do think you're both a bit strange though - who gives a shit!!!
I know right - he gets so defensive!
Then why are you calling it V7?
If I did so it was a mistake. Though to be sure you'll have to point me to that comment where I called it that. To be honest, at this stage I wouldn't put it past you simply making this up.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.