You are wrong. In Vista UAC was on or off. In windows 7 there is a slider that you get to chose how annoying uac is. This slider works pretty well.
IF people are going to bash windows 7 at least make sure you know what you are bashing.
I was going off memory, apparently my memory was wrong. I'm sorry that I can't check it while I'm at work stuck on XP.
If you are going to bash people for bashing at least pick a person that is doing a lot of it. I use Windows 7 daily at home, I just hadn't played around with the UAC settings for a long time.
Leo Laporte is a shill to whatever radio show (netcast) he's hosting at that particulate time. He's a fake. All smiles, all cool radio voice. No genuine character.
Eh? What are you talking about. He took massive heat on his Macbreak Weekly show a few weeks ago, calling Snow Leopard a "Snow Job," and insulted all his hosts by calling them "Apple fanboys." He's also said many times that he loves Windows 7 (as most of the reviewers tend to agree), but still prefers the Mac as his personal machine.
He, like so many of us, have to live in a Windows world regardless of your personal choice. Windows 7 is, if nothing else, the best release of Windows. Better to work on it than any of its predecessors.
Windows 7 is precisely "Vista" underneath in that it is internally 6.1 and not 7.0 (Vista is 6.0). The underpinnings are the same as vista, but more importantly, the hardware requirement is the same as Vista.
It would be fair to say that Windows 7 runs a smidge faster on the same hardware, but to make out like it's different from Vista in that it may not require "modern" hardware is not accurate. Machines that can run XP, but were not "beefy" enough to upgrade to Vista are in the same situation with Windows 7 as they were with the Vista upgrade. The people that passed on Vista because their computer wasn't powerful enough are still going to have to buy a new computer to run Windows 7 (if they haven't already upgraded in the interim), and that's a fact.
Additionally, since you can't actually upgrade from Windows XP, these people would have to do an "erase and install" to even be able to try it out on the old Windows XP machine. Most users of XP will not be upgrading without changing their machines, and most will likely not even be able to do so. There is also the fact that both Vista and Windows 7 are "different" UI's and more Mac-like than any windows has ever been before them. It's as big a change for the average XP user as switching to Mac would be and lots of the older folks just won't bother.
The only people that will have the "pop in the disk and click upgrade" experience that Snow Leopard gave to Mac users, are the current Vista users who are pretty much already sold on Windows anyway. For everyone else an upgrade will be a rather gruelling experience. Even if you recently bought a Vista capable PC and smartly had it downgraded to XP, you now have to erase the whole thing, change to Windows 7, and re-install all your programs.
It's worth mentioning that the vast majority of computer users in general (on all platforms), use the OS that came with their computer until the day they get a new one. Unlike the readers of this forum, most don't even do point upgrades or patches. Most users will be experiencing Windows 7 on the next brand new machine that they buy sometime next year.
It's been fairly well documented that the Windows 7 system requirements will be less demanding than Vista. Netbook manufacturers have been selling them with XP or linux because of the system requirements of vista. They are now indicating that they will be selling their netbooks with windows 7, rather than xp because it runs well on lower spec hardware, whereas Vista did not.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
Dominate? The *best* number they can come up with is 12% of home users in the United States, while worldwide adoption is still around 3-5%.
Apple's a great company, no doubt, and they're more well off than their other direct competitors (Dell, HP, Acer, etc...), but let's not lie to ourselves, here. Apple has a tiny fraction of all computers in the world.
Eh? What are you talking about. He took massive heat on his Macbreak Weekly show a few weeks ago, calling Snow Leopard a "Snow Job," and insulted all his hosts by calling them "Apple fanboys." He's also said many times that he loves Windows 7 (as most of the reviewers tend to agree), but still prefers the Mac as his personal machine.
He, like so many of us, have to live in a Windows world regardless of your personal choice. Windows 7 is, if nothing else, the best release of Windows. Better to work on it than any of its predecessors.
I take nothing he says a face value. He's full of shit.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
Webkit is readily and freely available for windows.
Webkit is readily and freely available for windows.
Not to mention that none of the OpenCL and Grand Central processing means a thing until developers actually take advantage of it. Snow Leopard has a lot of *potential,* but it could be years before any real-world use of those technologies are made, and even then I'm willing to bet the differences in efficiency will be noticible, but nothing to cry home to.
If I did so it was a mistake. Though to be sure you'll have to point me to that comment where I called it that. To be honest, at this stage I wouldn't put it past you simply making this up.
Me no make things up (not like anoymouse and his buddy gazoowee):
Allow me to quote you master:
Quote:
If this is true this embarrassing for him. Personally I don't rate him much at all and find his video reviews mega-boring and he style quite pompous.
That said I don't think Vista 7 is that bad. But, it's no OS X.
If you would take the time to READ the full WSJ you would see the NUMEROUS reasons why it is different- a MAJOR difference. People only believe what they want to on here. JEESH!
I stopped reading at the second paragraph. Too much wishful thinking.
I use windows 7 nearly as much as I use OS X daily and in many ways it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP (I'm not saying nothing was improved, LOTS of stuff was improved, but still is just Windows.... It wasn't designed like OS X was, and there is no "under the hood Grand Central"-like stuff in it either.
Grrrrr, there is so much more I wanted to say, but I can't find the words to say it... maybe later
I stopped reading at the second paragraph. Too much wishful thinking.
I use windows 7 nearly as much as I use OS X daily and in many ways it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP (I'm not saying nothing was improved, LOTS of stuff was improved, but still is just Windows.... It wasn't designed like OS X was, and there is no "under the hood Grand Central"-like stuff in it either.
Grrrrr, there is so much more I wanted to say, but I can't find the words to say it... maybe later
Well I am curious why you think it's
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it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP
I used to - my NeXTstation was the last great machine I had (many PCs in between, never would have called them nice) until I got a G5 iMac 14 years later. Anyone coding on the Mac / iPhone has used NSString, as has anyone doing NeXT development 20 years ago.
Certainly there was a Dock there long before Win95 did the taskbar - I got my slab back when my roommate got Windows 3.0 - wow was there ever no comparison there. I had 16 bit CD-quality audio, Display PostScript, true multitasking, higher res, faster, more memory, everything integrated into the machine, quiet running and good looking hardware, he had Win 3.0, reboots, and an airplane-engine volume HD. His machine did have all the games, though.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
most of these have nothing to do with the OS
webkit is on windows
HTML5 can be had in any internet browser that supports it. i have 5 installed now. IE, firefox, chrome, safari and opera
GCD is nothing but thread scheduling and MS has the same thing, minus the catchy marketing name. on SL it's useless without appication support.
OpenCL is also on windows as well as CUDA and Stream. and it has nothing to do with the OS
two things Vista and 7 have that SL doesn't is full native 64 bit support and randomizing the memory space for security reasons. my laptop runs native x64 Windows 7 and any "legacy" crap i have a virtual XP machine. MS rewrote virtual PC for WIndows 7 Ultimate where it takes advantage of VT on the CPU and it runs almost as fast as on the bare hardware.
OpenCL is also on windows as well as CUDA and Stream. and it has nothing to do with the OS
Well, one advantage OpenCL has over either CUDA or Stream is its not based on proprietary hardware. That means you write it once to OpenCL, and it will apply to either an ATI or nVidia card. Currently, the other two technologies only work on their respective cards, making adoption of either next to nil.
OpenCL is definitely an edge over Windows 7, but again, only theoretically. Nothing takes advantage of it, yet.
At least you can switch graphic cards on the fly without the need to log out first on Vista and 7, something which is very useful on a new MacBook Pro which comes with 2 graphic cards. I was hoping Apple would redesign/extend their graphic stack to support this too but, alas, it seems that Microsoft is ahead of the game at least in this area.
I've been using 7 on my MacBook Pro for several weeks now (mostly for work) for free. Students here had early access to Windows 7 Professional from the end of August. Some quick impressions:
* It sometimes feels slow. I'm not sure if it is really slow or perceived slowness due to an overuse of fade in/out animations but since I don't notice any performance degradation on any application I used it's probably the latter.
* Aero Peek is a nice addition. Internet Explorer uses it to preview all open tabs and windows and I got used to it rather quickly to specifically select a tab when bringing IE back from the background.
* The active borders, especially the ones which makes 2 windows use 50 percent of available space side by side, is a boon to me who has to read a lot of PDFs and other documentation while writing.
* Progress on the dock icon is also a small but fine addition, especially when downloading large files. It helped me to cope with my compulsive behaviour to check the download progress every few minutes.
* Games like Lord of the Rings Online run fine under DirectX 10. Something I was really not expecting.
* RAM usage is noticeably higher when using the 64 bit version compared to Windows XP. If you use memory intensive applications or games 4 GB of RAM is recommended. Some of these applications and games never encountered noticeable memory bottlenecks on XP.
* Don't care much about jump lists on 7 the same I don't care about the OS X equivalent.
* Shutdown time is noticeably slower than on OS X. On the other hand stand-bye mode is quicker (probably because OS X always saves memory contents to the hard disk first) and waking up is almost instant.
* Boot time is comparable to OS X (maybe a tad longer but not much).
* The file explorer now has most of the good features of the Finder (and some unique ones) without the retarded stuff. Using 7 I reminded me again of how I much miss a good default file manager on OS X. Thank god for Path Finder.
There's probably more stuff which would deserve further comments. Maybe at a later time.
EDIT: Something I remembered:
* Windows Media Player 12 now has the same retarded interface as QTX where the controls overlay the content even when not in fullscreen mode. Makes watching anything with subtitles a chore. On a positive note: It now supports H.264 and AAC natively. Here's still hoping that QuickTime will support WMV/VC-1 out of the box one day.
Now you're a down and out liar- show me where I posed that question. You still haven't answered my basic question
Which came first in a public OS- Microsoft's taskbar or Apple's Dock? And give the year of each's debut.
End of story.
I realize your at all sorts today with this kind of news story- but really?
Hahaha - that's funny, like asking 'Did you stop beating your wife yet?'. Is your question which of those 2 companies had the taskbar/dock first, or whether Apple stole it from Microsoft which I believe was the earlier comment?
Microsoft had their taskbar before OSX had the Dock since there was no OS X when Win 95 came out, but Apple certainly didn't copy MS for the idea since they purchased a company / assets that had it well before MS did.
And for the Acorn Archimedes having it before NeXT - totally possible, I think the question here was whether Apple 'stole' the Dock from Microsoft. Or at least that seemed to be the original question.
Hahaha - that's funny, like asking 'Did you stop beating your wife yet?'. Is your question which of those 2 companies had the taskbar/dock first, or whether Apple stole it from Microsoft which I believe was the earlier comment?
Microsoft had their taskbar before OSX had the Dock since there was no OS X when Win 95 came out, but Apple certainly didn't copy MS for the idea since they purchased a company / assets that had it well before MS did.
And for the Acorn Archimedes having it before NeXT - totally possible, I think the question here was whether Apple 'stole' the Dock from Microsoft. Or at least that seemed to be the original question.
Finally - the answer and answered with a sense a humor. thank you , thank you.
(to answer your question- it was both- one begat the other)
Who cares where it originated - it who utilzed it first and for how long. Besides, Mossberg states in the review today, if you would READ it,
Quote:
In Windows 7, the familiar taskbar has been reinvented and made taller. Instead of mainly being a place where icons of open windows temporarily appear, it now is a place where you can permanently ?pin? the icons of frequently used programs anywhere along its length, and in any arrangement you choose. This is a concept borrowed from Apple?s similar feature, the Dock. But Windows 7 takes the concept further.
Eh? Am I missing something? Has something big changed from the RTM? Was Mossberg bribed to say this? I knew he was a Mac user (NEVER was a fan. just because he uses the products he thinks that best suit his needs it doesn't make him a fan), but this is just garbage. It doesn't have as many features as the Dock does, and the features it has that the Dock doesn't (probably the "further" stuff) are so small and worthless they might be there only to show off.
It's been fairly well documented that the Windows 7 system requirements will be less demanding than Vista. Netbook manufacturers have been selling them with XP or linux because of the system requirements of vista. They are now indicating that they will be selling their netbooks with windows 7, rather than xp because it runs well on lower spec hardware, whereas Vista did not.
Well I don't want to get into a flame war but I don't think this is accurate. If you look into the details instead of just the headlines, you will see that the hardware that runs Windows 7 "smoothly" also ran Vista smoothly. There have been some slight improvements as I noted in both systems, because nothing stands still over that amount of time.
Most of those new netbooks capable of running Windows 7 are much better than those that were on the shelf when Vista came out. It was the heavy hardware requirements of Vista that took everyone by surprise that led to the huge number of systems that couldn't run it. That and the admitted fraud of the manufacturers in the "Vista-capable" program.
In the time since Vista launched (and primarily because those machines "couldn't do Vista"), the owners of many of those older machines have already upgraded and the new machines are both faster and better tuned to run Vista or Windows 7. Vista has also been "fixed" to a degree in the interim, with Windows 7 being the shiny polished version of those fixes, with the new UI. There are actually less changes "beneath the hood" (non UI changes), in Windows 7 than there are in Snow Leopard even though Snow Leopard is touted as having no major changes from Leopard.
Windows 7 is literally "Windows Vista with a new UI." Balmer himself said it in almost those exact words.
The hardware requirements for Windows 7 are essentially the same as Vista. The only improvements that have been made speed-wise in Windows 7 that allow it to be more responsive on lesser hardware, also apply to Vista.
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You are wrong. In Vista UAC was on or off. In windows 7 there is a slider that you get to chose how annoying uac is. This slider works pretty well.
IF people are going to bash windows 7 at least make sure you know what you are bashing.
I was going off memory, apparently my memory was wrong. I'm sorry that I can't check it while I'm at work stuck on XP.
If you are going to bash people for bashing at least pick a person that is doing a lot of it. I use Windows 7 daily at home, I just hadn't played around with the UAC settings for a long time.
Leo Laporte is a shill to whatever radio show (netcast) he's hosting at that particulate time. He's a fake. All smiles, all cool radio voice. No genuine character.
Eh? What are you talking about. He took massive heat on his Macbreak Weekly show a few weeks ago, calling Snow Leopard a "Snow Job," and insulted all his hosts by calling them "Apple fanboys." He's also said many times that he loves Windows 7 (as most of the reviewers tend to agree), but still prefers the Mac as his personal machine.
He, like so many of us, have to live in a Windows world regardless of your personal choice. Windows 7 is, if nothing else, the best release of Windows. Better to work on it than any of its predecessors.
I think this is a bit misleading.
Windows 7 is precisely "Vista" underneath in that it is internally 6.1 and not 7.0 (Vista is 6.0). The underpinnings are the same as vista, but more importantly, the hardware requirement is the same as Vista.
It would be fair to say that Windows 7 runs a smidge faster on the same hardware, but to make out like it's different from Vista in that it may not require "modern" hardware is not accurate. Machines that can run XP, but were not "beefy" enough to upgrade to Vista are in the same situation with Windows 7 as they were with the Vista upgrade. The people that passed on Vista because their computer wasn't powerful enough are still going to have to buy a new computer to run Windows 7 (if they haven't already upgraded in the interim), and that's a fact.
Additionally, since you can't actually upgrade from Windows XP, these people would have to do an "erase and install" to even be able to try it out on the old Windows XP machine. Most users of XP will not be upgrading without changing their machines, and most will likely not even be able to do so. There is also the fact that both Vista and Windows 7 are "different" UI's and more Mac-like than any windows has ever been before them. It's as big a change for the average XP user as switching to Mac would be and lots of the older folks just won't bother.
The only people that will have the "pop in the disk and click upgrade" experience that Snow Leopard gave to Mac users, are the current Vista users who are pretty much already sold on Windows anyway. For everyone else an upgrade will be a rather gruelling experience. Even if you recently bought a Vista capable PC and smartly had it downgraded to XP, you now have to erase the whole thing, change to Windows 7, and re-install all your programs.
It's worth mentioning that the vast majority of computer users in general (on all platforms), use the OS that came with their computer until the day they get a new one. Unlike the readers of this forum, most don't even do point upgrades or patches. Most users will be experiencing Windows 7 on the next brand new machine that they buy sometime next year.
It's been fairly well documented that the Windows 7 system requirements will be less demanding than Vista. Netbook manufacturers have been selling them with XP or linux because of the system requirements of vista. They are now indicating that they will be selling their netbooks with windows 7, rather than xp because it runs well on lower spec hardware, whereas Vista did not.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
Dominate? The *best* number they can come up with is 12% of home users in the United States, while worldwide adoption is still around 3-5%.
Apple's a great company, no doubt, and they're more well off than their other direct competitors (Dell, HP, Acer, etc...), but let's not lie to ourselves, here. Apple has a tiny fraction of all computers in the world.
Eh? What are you talking about. He took massive heat on his Macbreak Weekly show a few weeks ago, calling Snow Leopard a "Snow Job," and insulted all his hosts by calling them "Apple fanboys." He's also said many times that he loves Windows 7 (as most of the reviewers tend to agree), but still prefers the Mac as his personal machine.
He, like so many of us, have to live in a Windows world regardless of your personal choice. Windows 7 is, if nothing else, the best release of Windows. Better to work on it than any of its predecessors.
I take nothing he says a face value. He's full of shit.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
Webkit is readily and freely available for windows.
That argument would work if this forum wasn't full of crazy people.
Classic!
Webkit is readily and freely available for windows.
Not to mention that none of the OpenCL and Grand Central processing means a thing until developers actually take advantage of it. Snow Leopard has a lot of *potential,* but it could be years before any real-world use of those technologies are made, and even then I'm willing to bet the differences in efficiency will be noticible, but nothing to cry home to.
If I did so it was a mistake. Though to be sure you'll have to point me to that comment where I called it that. To be honest, at this stage I wouldn't put it past you simply making this up.
Me no make things up (not like anoymouse and his buddy gazoowee):
Allow me to quote you master:
If this is true this embarrassing for him. Personally I don't rate him much at all and find his video reviews mega-boring and he style quite pompous.
That said I don't think Vista 7 is that bad. But, it's no OS X.
And that was you praising Windows 7?
If you would take the time to READ the full WSJ you would see the NUMEROUS reasons why it is different- a MAJOR difference. People only believe what they want to on here. JEESH!
Please READ it:
http://ptech.allthingsd.com/20091007...lp-you-forget/
I stopped reading at the second paragraph. Too much wishful thinking.
I use windows 7 nearly as much as I use OS X daily and in many ways it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP (I'm not saying nothing was improved, LOTS of stuff was improved, but still is just Windows.... It wasn't designed like OS X was, and there is no "under the hood Grand Central"-like stuff in it either.
Grrrrr, there is so much more I wanted to say, but I can't find the words to say it... maybe later
I stopped reading at the second paragraph. Too much wishful thinking.
I use windows 7 nearly as much as I use OS X daily and in many ways it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP (I'm not saying nothing was improved, LOTS of stuff was improved, but still is just Windows.... It wasn't designed like OS X was, and there is no "under the hood Grand Central"-like stuff in it either.
Grrrrr, there is so much more I wanted to say, but I can't find the words to say it... maybe later
Well I am curious why you think it's
it is still a major leap backwards when compared to XP
Ok then - who uses NEXT?
I used to - my NeXTstation was the last great machine I had (many PCs in between, never would have called them nice) until I got a G5 iMac 14 years later. Anyone coding on the Mac / iPhone has used NSString, as has anyone doing NeXT development 20 years ago.
Certainly there was a Dock there long before Win95 did the taskbar - I got my slab back when my roommate got Windows 3.0 - wow was there ever no comparison there. I had 16 bit CD-quality audio, Display PostScript, true multitasking, higher res, faster, more memory, everything integrated into the machine, quiet running and good looking hardware, he had Win 3.0, reboots, and an airplane-engine volume HD. His machine did have all the games, though.
My impression from reading (parts of) Walt Mossberg's reviews over the years is that he is a very reluctant Apple fan; if he is a fan at all.
He is more a wolf in sheepskin if you ask me.
Anyhow, he missed the point completely. Snow Leopard has LLVM, WebKit (HTML5), GCD and openCL under its skin. And Apple is at the forefront of software technology. This is essential for the (near) future. And Apple will, because of its software skills, and smart use of the open source community, dominate even more in the years to come.
J.
most of these have nothing to do with the OS
webkit is on windows
HTML5 can be had in any internet browser that supports it. i have 5 installed now. IE, firefox, chrome, safari and opera
GCD is nothing but thread scheduling and MS has the same thing, minus the catchy marketing name. on SL it's useless without appication support.
OpenCL is also on windows as well as CUDA and Stream. and it has nothing to do with the OS
two things Vista and 7 have that SL doesn't is full native 64 bit support and randomizing the memory space for security reasons. my laptop runs native x64 Windows 7 and any "legacy" crap i have a virtual XP machine. MS rewrote virtual PC for WIndows 7 Ultimate where it takes advantage of VT on the CPU and it runs almost as fast as on the bare hardware.
itunes works just fine on Windows 7 x64
OpenCL is also on windows as well as CUDA and Stream. and it has nothing to do with the OS
Well, one advantage OpenCL has over either CUDA or Stream is its not based on proprietary hardware. That means you write it once to OpenCL, and it will apply to either an ATI or nVidia card. Currently, the other two technologies only work on their respective cards, making adoption of either next to nil.
OpenCL is definitely an edge over Windows 7, but again, only theoretically. Nothing takes advantage of it, yet.
I've been using 7 on my MacBook Pro for several weeks now (mostly for work) for free. Students here had early access to Windows 7 Professional from the end of August. Some quick impressions:
* It sometimes feels slow. I'm not sure if it is really slow or perceived slowness due to an overuse of fade in/out animations but since I don't notice any performance degradation on any application I used it's probably the latter.
* Aero Peek is a nice addition. Internet Explorer uses it to preview all open tabs and windows and I got used to it rather quickly to specifically select a tab when bringing IE back from the background.
* The active borders, especially the ones which makes 2 windows use 50 percent of available space side by side, is a boon to me who has to read a lot of PDFs and other documentation while writing.
* Progress on the dock icon is also a small but fine addition, especially when downloading large files. It helped me to cope with my compulsive behaviour to check the download progress every few minutes.
* Games like Lord of the Rings Online run fine under DirectX 10. Something I was really not expecting.
* RAM usage is noticeably higher when using the 64 bit version compared to Windows XP. If you use memory intensive applications or games 4 GB of RAM is recommended. Some of these applications and games never encountered noticeable memory bottlenecks on XP.
* Don't care much about jump lists on 7 the same I don't care about the OS X equivalent.
* Shutdown time is noticeably slower than on OS X. On the other hand stand-bye mode is quicker (probably because OS X always saves memory contents to the hard disk first) and waking up is almost instant.
* Boot time is comparable to OS X (maybe a tad longer but not much).
* The file explorer now has most of the good features of the Finder (and some unique ones) without the retarded stuff. Using 7 I reminded me again of how I much miss a good default file manager on OS X. Thank god for Path Finder.
There's probably more stuff which would deserve further comments. Maybe at a later time.
EDIT: Something I remembered:
* Windows Media Player 12 now has the same retarded interface as QTX where the controls overlay the content even when not in fullscreen mode. Makes watching anything with subtitles a chore. On a positive note: It now supports H.264 and AAC natively. Here's still hoping that QuickTime will support WMV/VC-1 out of the box one day.
Now you're a down and out liar- show me where I posed that question. You still haven't answered my basic question
Which came first in a public OS- Microsoft's taskbar or Apple's Dock? And give the year of each's debut.
End of story.
I realize your at all sorts today with this kind of news story- but really?
Hahaha - that's funny, like asking 'Did you stop beating your wife yet?'. Is your question which of those 2 companies had the taskbar/dock first, or whether Apple stole it from Microsoft which I believe was the earlier comment?
Microsoft had their taskbar before OSX had the Dock since there was no OS X when Win 95 came out, but Apple certainly didn't copy MS for the idea since they purchased a company / assets that had it well before MS did.
And for the Acorn Archimedes having it before NeXT - totally possible, I think the question here was whether Apple 'stole' the Dock from Microsoft. Or at least that seemed to be the original question.
Hahaha - that's funny, like asking 'Did you stop beating your wife yet?'. Is your question which of those 2 companies had the taskbar/dock first, or whether Apple stole it from Microsoft which I believe was the earlier comment?
Microsoft had their taskbar before OSX had the Dock since there was no OS X when Win 95 came out, but Apple certainly didn't copy MS for the idea since they purchased a company / assets that had it well before MS did.
And for the Acorn Archimedes having it before NeXT - totally possible, I think the question here was whether Apple 'stole' the Dock from Microsoft. Or at least that seemed to be the original question.
Finally - the answer and answered with a sense a humor. thank you , thank you.
(to answer your question- it was both- one begat the other)
Who cares where it originated - it who utilzed it first and for how long. Besides, Mossberg states in the review today, if you would READ it,
In Windows 7, the familiar taskbar has been reinvented and made taller. Instead of mainly being a place where icons of open windows temporarily appear, it now is a place where you can permanently ?pin? the icons of frequently used programs anywhere along its length, and in any arrangement you choose. This is a concept borrowed from Apple?s similar feature, the Dock. But Windows 7 takes the concept further.
Eh? Am I missing something? Has something big changed from the RTM? Was Mossberg bribed to say this? I knew he was a Mac user (NEVER was a fan. just because he uses the products he thinks that best suit his needs it doesn't make him a fan), but this is just garbage.
It's been fairly well documented that the Windows 7 system requirements will be less demanding than Vista. Netbook manufacturers have been selling them with XP or linux because of the system requirements of vista. They are now indicating that they will be selling their netbooks with windows 7, rather than xp because it runs well on lower spec hardware, whereas Vista did not.
Well I don't want to get into a flame war but I don't think this is accurate. If you look into the details instead of just the headlines, you will see that the hardware that runs Windows 7 "smoothly" also ran Vista smoothly. There have been some slight improvements as I noted in both systems, because nothing stands still over that amount of time.
Most of those new netbooks capable of running Windows 7 are much better than those that were on the shelf when Vista came out. It was the heavy hardware requirements of Vista that took everyone by surprise that led to the huge number of systems that couldn't run it. That and the admitted fraud of the manufacturers in the "Vista-capable" program.
In the time since Vista launched (and primarily because those machines "couldn't do Vista"), the owners of many of those older machines have already upgraded and the new machines are both faster and better tuned to run Vista or Windows 7. Vista has also been "fixed" to a degree in the interim, with Windows 7 being the shiny polished version of those fixes, with the new UI. There are actually less changes "beneath the hood" (non UI changes), in Windows 7 than there are in Snow Leopard even though Snow Leopard is touted as having no major changes from Leopard.
Windows 7 is literally "Windows Vista with a new UI." Balmer himself said it in almost those exact words.
The hardware requirements for Windows 7 are essentially the same as Vista. The only improvements that have been made speed-wise in Windows 7 that allow it to be more responsive on lesser hardware, also apply to Vista.
Oh and the need to consider making a real mouse.
Then we'd have to feed them ... and think of the droppings