He realized partway through that he might just have been a little too honest for an MS emnployee, and then added:
We?ve significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it?s built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.
If he had any presence of mind to begin with, he would never have even mentioned Apple.
It looks more like Linux? Super. Except Gomer Pyle there said it looks more like OS X. What difference does it make what *you* think it looks like, when he, representing MS, just announced publcily that it looks lke OS X and that MS ripped off Apple.
The first quote does not contradict this quote therefore there no reason to quote the whole statement or the whole interview. Furthermore, the first statement sounded more like a survey or a research findings and the second was more of an opinion.
If your going to quote someone you either have to quote everything or nothing. Anything in the middle is called lying.
I just got back - I had an extremely difficult problem to solve at the office.
Here we go again - yet another thread of MS bashing and for what reason? Why don't you leave them be as they don't compete in the "premium" market anyway which Apple owns. Do they? WE all know Apple's never gonna crush them- right?
"We've significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it's built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance."
If you're going to steal the "look and feel", then go ahead and do it. They only did it in bits and drabs. Windows 7 is still pretty garish. They need to tone it down some. I find the MacOS interface much more elegant and refined. It's less "in your face". Aero windows especially is an eye sore.
It matters not, what some guy at Microsoft says about Apple or anything else. Some people would have you believe that comments from managers at Microsoft would have some influence, but they have zero influence really.
Both Windows 7 and OS X are very good pieces of software. But one big thing MS lacks and that they will never really have is the total computing experience. Apple builds the hardware, the operating system and many of the applications for a total user experience.
When one compares apples to apples (no pun intended), on balance, Apple comes out ahead. Yes, even with price considerations which are mostly fabricated. True, Apples does not play in the $400 PC market, but they don't have to. But Apple has sold millions of devices at the $400 price point, just not a PC.
The market shows the truth here ... Apple is firing on all cylinders and is focused. MS on the other hand seems to have been distracted for years and several cylinders have misfired.
I am very happy with my Apple experience, having switched 2 years ago from Wintel PCs. OS X has been incredibly stable compared to my Windows experience. Installing software is a complete breeze compared to MS installations; just one of many areas where Apple excels.
You left out one big missing item.
You have much more flexibility and freedom using Windows. You're not locked into anybody's control. Flash even works. More games- are there any MAC games?
The flip side is more suceptibilty to viruses.
Now where can you get a MAC with Touch control on the screen like Windows has?
Simon Aldous, partner group manager with Microsoft: "...it's built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.".
Oh c'mon Mr. Aldous, although I am a Vista user, the notion that Windows is more stable than OS X is funny. You silly silly guy!
If you're going to steal the "look and feel", then go ahead and do it. They only did it in bits and drabs. Windows 7 is still pretty garish. They need to tone it down some. I find the MacOS interface much more elegant and refined. It's less "in your face". Aero windows especially is an eye sore.
Garish?
It looks like a multiple-clown homicide. Colours all over the place, transparency-glass-hell, like it was designed by Flava Flav on a bender.
Eye-candy is supposed to be subtle and elegant, not Ringling Brothers meets Death Wish 4: The Crackdown.
I knew I liked Windows 7 for some reason and here you go.
I'm willing to bet 10.7 will be out by the end of 2010. Apple would have pulled an amazing feat off if they do release a feature rich update in a little more than a year after 10.6 was released.
At this point I'm not sure what more I'd need in that new OS that couldn't be tacked onto the existing 10.6 (blu-ray support, atom support again, etc). It'll be interesting what they come up with.
"One of the things that people say an awful lot about the Apple Mac is that the OS is fantastic, that it's very graphical and easy to use," Aldous said. "What we?ve tried to do with Windows 7 -- whether it's traditional format or in a touch format -- is create a Mac look and feel in terms of graphics. We've significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it's built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance."
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He realized partway through that he might just have been a little too honest for an MS emnployee, and then added:
We?ve significantly improved the graphical user interface, but it?s built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.
If he had any presence of mind to begin with, he would never have even mentioned Apple.
It looks more like Linux? Super. Except Gomer Pyle there said it looks more like OS X. What difference does it make what *you* think it looks like, when he, representing MS, just announced publcily that it looks lke OS X and that MS ripped off Apple.
Glad to see you are also a mind reader.
Microsoft, do HUMANITY a favor: get out of business, so that all people can enjoy the Mac!
Microsoft makes hardware now too?
The first quote does not contradict this quote therefore there no reason to quote the whole statement or the whole interview. Furthermore, the first statement sounded more like a survey or a research findings and the second was more of an opinion.
If your going to quote someone you either have to quote everything or nothing. Anything in the middle is called lying.
Where is Teckstud in all this?
I just got back - I had an extremely difficult problem to solve at the office.
Here we go again - yet another thread of MS bashing and for what reason? Why don't you leave them be as they don't compete in the "premium" market anyway which Apple owns. Do they? WE all know Apple's never gonna crush them- right?
When someone makes a statement like that, shouldn't they be asked: How do you make that claim? Can you prove it? Has it been shown?
Kind of like people here who endlessly bash Windows using the same tired soundbites?
If your going to quote someone you either have to quote everything or nothing. Anything in the middle is called lying.
Seriously?! You might want to look up the definition of the word "Quote" and while at it look at the definition of every word in that definition
Kind of like people here who endlessly bash Windows using the same tired soundbites?
If only they weren't true/justified/so useful because MS (and its dumb emplyees) make it so easy.
Don't get all angry at us when MS provides the material.
It matters not, what some guy at Microsoft says about Apple or anything else. Some people would have you believe that comments from managers at Microsoft would have some influence, but they have zero influence really.
Both Windows 7 and OS X are very good pieces of software. But one big thing MS lacks and that they will never really have is the total computing experience. Apple builds the hardware, the operating system and many of the applications for a total user experience.
When one compares apples to apples (no pun intended), on balance, Apple comes out ahead. Yes, even with price considerations which are mostly fabricated. True, Apples does not play in the $400 PC market, but they don't have to. But Apple has sold millions of devices at the $400 price point, just not a PC.
The market shows the truth here ... Apple is firing on all cylinders and is focused. MS on the other hand seems to have been distracted for years and several cylinders have misfired.
I am very happy with my Apple experience, having switched 2 years ago from Wintel PCs. OS X has been incredibly stable compared to my Windows experience. Installing software is a complete breeze compared to MS installations; just one of many areas where Apple excels.
You left out one big missing item.
You have much more flexibility and freedom using Windows. You're not locked into anybody's control. Flash even works. More games- are there any MAC games?
The flip side is more suceptibilty to viruses.
Now where can you get a MAC with Touch control on the screen like Windows has?
Simon Aldous, partner group manager with Microsoft: "...it's built on that very stable core Vista technology, which is far more stable than the current Mac platform, for instance.".
Oh c'mon Mr. Aldous, although I am a Vista user, the notion that Windows is more stable than OS X is funny. You silly silly guy!
apparently Microsoft was even more inspired by open-source KDE.
Apple also adopted KDE's KHTML, which got subsequently renamed to WebKit.
People don't even notice that it's KDE:
http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/soft...9294810,00.htm
And thanks to Apple it became something worth using, because KHTML in KDE 4.3 STILL SUCKS.
KDE keeps on saying they will go to webkit, but still hasn't. In the meantime, epiphany has and just like every other webkit browser, is smokin' fast.
If only they weren't true/justified/so useful because MS (and its dumb emplyees) make it so easy.
Don't get all angry at us when MS provides the material.
+1 and more
If you're going to steal the "look and feel", then go ahead and do it. They only did it in bits and drabs. Windows 7 is still pretty garish. They need to tone it down some. I find the MacOS interface much more elegant and refined. It's less "in your face". Aero windows especially is an eye sore.
Garish?
It looks like a multiple-clown homicide. Colours all over the place, transparency-glass-hell, like it was designed by Flava Flav on a bender.
Eye-candy is supposed to be subtle and elegant, not Ringling Brothers meets Death Wish 4: The Crackdown.
The release of Windows 7 will force Apple to lower their prices. That is good for us.
Now where can you get a MAC with Touch control on the screen like Windows has?
Apparently MS thinks gorilla-arm is somehow cool.
I'm willing to bet 10.7 will be out by the end of 2010. Apple would have pulled an amazing feat off if they do release a feature rich update in a little more than a year after 10.6 was released.
At this point I'm not sure what more I'd need in that new OS that couldn't be tacked onto the existing 10.6 (blu-ray support, atom support again, etc). It'll be interesting what they come up with.
More stable? Is that supposed to be a joke?
I would quote his statement in the next keynote if I were SJ
Worry not, SJ is NOT gonna forget that pearl...
MICROSOFT IS DEAD. AND SO IS DELL.
Worry not, SJ is NOT gonna forget that pearl...
MICROSOFT IS DEAD. AND SO IS DELL.
Always a pleasure, br . . .
See you've found your way over from MR. About time, too.