I didn't search on this at first but seeing you disagree I decided to look it up.
"He occupies a grand place in both the history of philosophy and the history of mathematics. He invented infinitesimal calculus independently of Newton, and his notation has been in general use since then. He also invented the binary system, the foundation of virtually all modern computer architectures. "
Well if you read it on the internet then it must be true. No need to actually look into it any further as one might strain something.
First of all, it can?t be invented. It can acknowledged, documented, understood, manipulated, etc. but you can?t invent something that already exists in nature. Documenting the principles of binary logic is not the same as inventing the binary system. It?s like saying documenting the principles fo gravity are the same as inventing gravity. I don?t think Teckstud would argue that Newton invented gravity, but I really do give him too much credit at times.
Secondly, he wasn?t the first to discover it. You really think it took the human race until the 17th century to realize a binary system existed? How about Pingala or do you have a problem with non-western mathematicians the way you have a problem with America? Leibniz can be attributed to creating the modern binary system that we use today in computers. His work on logic was profound.
Well if you read it on the internet then it must be true. No need to actually look into it any further as one might strain something.
First of all, it can?t be invented. It can acknowledged, documented, understood, manipulated, etc. but you can?t invent something that already exists in nature. Documenting the principles of binary logic is not the same as inventing the binary system. It?s like saying documenting the principles fo gravity are the same as inventing gravity. I don?t think Teckstud would argue that Newton invented gravity, but I really do give him too much credit at times.
Secondly, he wasn?t the first to discover it. You really think it took the human race until the 17th century to realize a binary system existed? How about Pingala or do you have a problem with non-western mathematicians the way you have a problem with America? Leibniz can be attributed to creating the modern binary system that we use today in computers. His work on logic was profound.
It wouldn't be the first time something was used before someone was given credit for dicovering it. Its not that I had to get this off the internet I have my Masters in Computer Science and worked coding Assember for a long time. So knowing who was credited with the binary system wasn't all that hard.
You asked the question I gave you the answer. You can try and dispute it all you want doesn't change who was credited with the discovery.
It wouldn't be the first time something was used before someone was given credit for dicovering it. Its not that I had to get this off the internet I have my Masters in Computer Science and worked coding Assember for a long time. So knowing who was credited with the binary system wasn't all that hard.
You asked the question I gave you the answer. You can try and dispute it all you want doesn't change who was credited with the discovery.
So now the terms discovery and invention are interchangeable? Now you are sounding like Teckstud.
So now the terms discovery and invention are interchangeable? Now you are sounding like Teckstud.
Thats simply not true. The problem is you were being scarcastic with Teckstud asking a question you thought there wasn't a logical answer too and you were incorrect. There is not only a logical but widely recognized answer. The system was invented around 1679 and published 1703.
If you disagree then show me some published facts to dispute it.
I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
Mouse, your internet must be slow today I expected a faster response. You know seeing you and your buddies all share the same brain cell.
By the way mousse we were taking about the binary system. Would you like to expand on that for us. Or didn't they teach you that durning Taco Bell drive thru training....
Mouse, your internet must be slow today I expected a faster response. You know seeing you and your buddies all share the same brain cell.
By the way mousse we were taking about the binary system. Would you like to expand on that for us. Or didn't they teach you that durning Taco Bell drive thru training....
Oh, skeeter, some of us have lives and don't spend all our time internet trolling.
Besides the fact that he is not the first to discover, conceive or use the binary system, the concept of inventing the binary system as if it didn’t exist prior to man’s acknowledgment is like saying Newton invented gravity or Franklin invented electricity.
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You are an embarrassment to this country.
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TechDud, in another thread I said it was possible that people might take you for a fool. Now I can see why they should.
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Well, that's exactly what he wants. There really is no point in trying to use reason with him. He's just here to be disruptive, like the thread yesterday where he kept making nonsense posts about Al Gore and other stuff unrelated to the thread until he finally hooked someone into responding. If you respond to him at all, you might as well just keep it to ridicule.
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Of course he's a troll. Does anyone really doubt that?
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Right, because you guys are always contributing in such a "real" way.
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Ah, the ugly American.
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Oh, he'll never stop ranting, he has nothing positive in his life, so venting his anger takes the place of happiness for him. A poor substitute to be sure, but it's all he has.
And, I'll take it upon myself to apologize on behalf of the United States to the rest of the world for his hate speech. He's an embarrassment to this country, and everything it is supposed to stand for.
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I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
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Oh, skeeter, some of us have lives and don't spend all our time internet trolling.
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admin already knows of your problems here
the only question is are you posting here under more than one name ??
Bill made his fortune AFTER Jobs did. Microsft was just starting out by the time Apple already established itself as a fortune 500 company.
Microsoft has made a few products on its own: Applesoft BASIC (FP) as well as a few other compilers (Pascal I believe), and I'll give them credit for MS Word & PowerPoint (though it was not much different from MacWrite.)
Everything else has been a rip-off: (Excel ripped from Lotus who ripped from Visicalc... DOS wasn't even writen by MS, and the list goes on... and on .... and on...)
And yes.... Jobs was first to make the big bucks too.... so what exactly is your point?
So who inspired who?
Who's the wealthiest man in the world for the last 10 years? Who inspired the right click as opposed to the click, click; double click???
You obviously can't read correctly in your retorts. I stated in my changes I can't change it to three due to the limitations of the iPhone as I am not on my computer as I am on vacation. The fields are limited due to all of your drivel I've posted.
Interview with only two riches man in the world...what is the point? If I want answers and inspirations, I would find more at TED conference.
Back to Gates' comments, he is a few years behind on recognizing Steve Job's vision and talent. Taking a chance and re-inventing portable music device, digital music and iphone...the list can go on pretty long, depending if you believe in Apple products or not.
Sorry you're so offended but Gates if nothing is a great businessman. Trillions wouldn't be using MS products if it were as bad as some posters here want us to believe.
I love Apple products, specifically it's OS because it appeals to my sensibilities, but refuse to cult worship Steve Jobs. Some on here act as if he invented the binary system. Whatever.
iI am not offended
if you love and worship the slime trail gates leaves in his wake
fine and dandy by me ...SLY STONE said diff strokes for diff folks .and so on and so on
OMG- it's a TOTAL bad thing! Gore is the most inept politician ever. He should have rolled over Bush with Clinton's record but wimped away from Bill because of his extra-marital touchy fealies. Then he couldn't even put up a respectable fight in Florida in the courts, He rightfully deserved to loose exactly because of his inneptness. Also he's a hypocrite as documented with all his enviro preachiness yet doesn't practice what he preaches.
Quickly, quickly everyone, over here - Tekspud has found a hypocritical politician.
sorry you're so offended but gates if nothing is a great businessman. Trillions wouldn't be using ms products if it were as bad as some posters here want us to believe.
a lot of us have no choice. So much so that our workflows have grown up around ms products. Much of this is due to simple ignorance (i.e., not really caring) and because it's whatever we've grown up using.
Given apple's success, however, the differences are becoming more and more apparent. Especially in light of ms' inability to stop the apple train with its half-assed marketing. This isn't 1995.
i love apple products, specifically it's os because it appeals to my sensibilities, but refuse to cult worship steve jobs.
you don't have to "cult worship" him. But it's ok to admire the man and enjoy his keynotes, his style, his special way of doing things. Better than having our youth or even adult population look up to kanye or t-pain, dontcha think? It's ok to have heroes, teck, espcially in business, since people with any shred of creativity and vision are increasingly difficult to come by in that area.
some on here act as if he invented the binary system. Whatever.
no, but he "invented" (substitute whatever word you like, as if it matters) attractive, desirable, usable tech. Which is kind of a big deal. In fact, it's a relly big deal in today's world.
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I didn't search on this at first but seeing you disagree I decided to look it up.
"He occupies a grand place in both the history of philosophy and the history of mathematics. He invented infinitesimal calculus independently of Newton, and his notation has been in general use since then. He also invented the binary system, the foundation of virtually all modern computer architectures. "
Well if you read it on the internet then it must be true. No need to actually look into it any further as one might strain something.
First of all, it can?t be invented. It can acknowledged, documented, understood, manipulated, etc. but you can?t invent something that already exists in nature. Documenting the principles of binary logic is not the same as inventing the binary system. It?s like saying documenting the principles fo gravity are the same as inventing gravity. I don?t think Teckstud would argue that Newton invented gravity, but I really do give him too much credit at times.
Secondly, he wasn?t the first to discover it. You really think it took the human race until the 17th century to realize a binary system existed? How about Pingala or do you have a problem with non-western mathematicians the way you have a problem with America? Leibniz can be attributed to creating the modern binary system that we use today in computers. His work on logic was profound.
Well if you read it on the internet then it must be true. No need to actually look into it any further as one might strain something.
First of all, it can?t be invented. It can acknowledged, documented, understood, manipulated, etc. but you can?t invent something that already exists in nature. Documenting the principles of binary logic is not the same as inventing the binary system. It?s like saying documenting the principles fo gravity are the same as inventing gravity. I don?t think Teckstud would argue that Newton invented gravity, but I really do give him too much credit at times.
Secondly, he wasn?t the first to discover it. You really think it took the human race until the 17th century to realize a binary system existed? How about Pingala or do you have a problem with non-western mathematicians the way you have a problem with America? Leibniz can be attributed to creating the modern binary system that we use today in computers. His work on logic was profound.
It wouldn't be the first time something was used before someone was given credit for dicovering it. Its not that I had to get this off the internet I have my Masters in Computer Science and worked coding Assember for a long time. So knowing who was credited with the binary system wasn't all that hard.
You asked the question I gave you the answer. You can try and dispute it all you want doesn't change who was credited with the discovery.
It wouldn't be the first time something was used before someone was given credit for dicovering it. Its not that I had to get this off the internet I have my Masters in Computer Science and worked coding Assember for a long time. So knowing who was credited with the binary system wasn't all that hard.
You asked the question I gave you the answer. You can try and dispute it all you want doesn't change who was credited with the discovery.
So now the terms discovery and invention are interchangeable? Now you are sounding like Teckstud.
So now the terms discovery and invention are interchangeable? Now you are sounding like Teckstud.
Thats simply not true. The problem is you were being scarcastic with Teckstud asking a question you thought there wasn't a logical answer too and you were incorrect. There is not only a logical but widely recognized answer. The system was invented around 1679 and published 1703.
If you disagree then show me some published facts to dispute it.
So now the terms discovery and invention are interchangeable? Now you are sounding like Teckstud.
You're surprised that he can't tell the difference between the two?
Give up, solipsism. Logical argumentation doesn't cut it with these folks.
You're surprised that he can't tell the difference between the two?
Give up, solipsism. Logical argumentation doesn't cut it with these folks.
Again. Saying alot of nothing.
Again. Saying alot of nothing.
I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
Mouse, your internet must be slow today I expected a faster response. You know seeing you and your buddies all share the same brain cell.
By the way mousse we were taking about the binary system. Would you like to expand on that for us. Or didn't they teach you that durning Taco Bell drive thru training....
Mouse, your internet must be slow today I expected a faster response. You know seeing you and your buddies all share the same brain cell.
By the way mousse we were taking about the binary system. Would you like to expand on that for us. Or didn't they teach you that durning Taco Bell drive thru training....
Oh, skeeter, some of us have lives and don't spend all our time internet trolling.
Oh, skeeter, some of us have lives and don't spend all our time internet trolling.
Mouse thats pretty rare for you.
hijacked topics suck
Besides the fact that he is not the first to discover, conceive or use the binary system, the concept of inventing the binary system as if it didn’t exist prior to man’s acknowledgment is like saying Newton invented gravity or Franklin invented electricity.
You are an embarrassment to this country.
TechDud, in another thread I said it was possible that people might take you for a fool. Now I can see why they should.
Well, that's exactly what he wants. There really is no point in trying to use reason with him. He's just here to be disruptive, like the thread yesterday where he kept making nonsense posts about Al Gore and other stuff unrelated to the thread until he finally hooked someone into responding. If you respond to him at all, you might as well just keep it to ridicule.
Of course he's a troll. Does anyone really doubt that?
Right, because you guys are always contributing in such a "real" way.
Ah, the ugly American.
Oh, he'll never stop ranting, he has nothing positive in his life, so venting his anger takes the place of happiness for him. A poor substitute to be sure, but it's all he has.
And, I'll take it upon myself to apologize on behalf of the United States to the rest of the world for his hate speech. He's an embarrassment to this country, and everything it is supposed to stand for.
I like your new posting style. Short, to the point, same actual information content as your other posts, but no need to wade through the usual nonsense. Excellent! I mean, the narrative aspect of the style is a little odd, but it's still a big improvement, and nothing meaningful is lost.
Oh, skeeter, some of us have lives and don't spend all our time internet trolling.
NINE POST ALL ATTACKING
ALL OFF TOPIC
CLASSIC TROLL YOU HAVE ADDED ZIPPO TO THIS TOPIC OR THREAD FORUM WEBSITE WORLD
admin already knows of your problems here
the only question is are you posting here under more than one name ??
Bill made his fortune AFTER Jobs did. Microsft was just starting out by the time Apple already established itself as a fortune 500 company.
Microsoft has made a few products on its own: Applesoft BASIC (FP) as well as a few other compilers (Pascal I believe), and I'll give them credit for MS Word & PowerPoint (though it was not much different from MacWrite.)
Everything else has been a rip-off: (Excel ripped from Lotus who ripped from Visicalc... DOS wasn't even writen by MS, and the list goes on... and on .... and on...)
And yes.... Jobs was first to make the big bucks too.... so what exactly is your point?
So who inspired who?
Who's the wealthiest man in the world for the last 10 years? Who inspired the right click as opposed to the click, click; double click???
NINE POST ALL ATTACKING
ALL OFF TOPIC
CLASSIC TROLL YOU HAVE ADDED ZIPPO TO THIS TOPIC OR THREAD FORUM WEBSITE WORLD
admin already knows of your problems here
the only question is are you posting here under more than one name ??
Thank you brucep-We might not always agree but you know what?- you rule- lunch?
1+1+1 = 3.
You obviously can't read correctly in your retorts. I stated in my changes I can't change it to three due to the limitations of the iPhone as I am not on my computer as I am on vacation. The fields are limited due to all of your drivel I've posted.
Back to Gates' comments, he is a few years behind on recognizing Steve Job's vision and talent. Taking a chance and re-inventing portable music device, digital music and iphone...the list can go on pretty long, depending if you believe in Apple products or not.
NINE POST ALL ATTACKING
ALL OFF TOPIC
CLASSIC TROLL YOU HAVE ADDED ZIPPO TO THIS TOPIC OR THREAD FORUM WEBSITE WORLD
admin already knows of your problems here
the only question is are you posting here under more than one name ??
because i have no life i will follow all you off topic dudes with a score card
anonymouse 0 on topic -9 off-topic
you may say i am off off topic
but no a simple saves me a violation
or i hate bill gates so much that the gates of hell know my name statement
at least teckstud makes valid points and when he is off he is still funny and witty
it must be a new york thing
euro trash never gets it
Thank you brucep-We might not always agree but you know what?- you rule- lunch?
no dude you da man
you da man
in fact sometimes weeks later i re think one of your very witty caustic remarks and almost agree with you
lunch
come to the jewelry block
47th street
Sorry you're so offended but Gates if nothing is a great businessman. Trillions wouldn't be using MS products if it were as bad as some posters here want us to believe.
I love Apple products, specifically it's OS because it appeals to my sensibilities, but refuse to cult worship Steve Jobs. Some on here act as if he invented the binary system. Whatever.
iI am not offended
if you love and worship the slime trail gates leaves in his wake
fine and dandy by me ...SLY STONE said diff strokes for diff folks .and so on and so on
scooby dooby diiby ...
OMG- it's a TOTAL bad thing! Gore is the most inept politician ever. He should have rolled over Bush with Clinton's record but wimped away from Bill because of his extra-marital touchy fealies. Then he couldn't even put up a respectable fight in Florida in the courts, He rightfully deserved to loose exactly because of his inneptness. Also he's a hypocrite as documented with all his enviro preachiness yet doesn't practice what he preaches.
Quickly, quickly everyone, over here - Tekspud has found a hypocritical politician.
at least teckstud makes valid points
sorry you're so offended but gates if nothing is a great businessman. Trillions wouldn't be using ms products if it were as bad as some posters here want us to believe.
a lot of us have no choice. So much so that our workflows have grown up around ms products. Much of this is due to simple ignorance (i.e., not really caring) and because it's whatever we've grown up using.
Given apple's success, however, the differences are becoming more and more apparent. Especially in light of ms' inability to stop the apple train with its half-assed marketing. This isn't 1995.
i love apple products, specifically it's os because it appeals to my sensibilities, but refuse to cult worship steve jobs.
you don't have to "cult worship" him. But it's ok to admire the man and enjoy his keynotes, his style, his special way of doing things. Better than having our youth or even adult population look up to kanye or t-pain, dontcha think? It's ok to have heroes, teck, espcially in business, since people with any shred of creativity and vision are increasingly difficult to come by in that area.
some on here act as if he invented the binary system. Whatever.
no, but he "invented" (substitute whatever word you like, as if it matters) attractive, desirable, usable tech. Which is kind of a big deal. In fact, it's a relly big deal in today's world.