What most of you seem to realize is that men in their 30s and 40s remember Motorola fondly. Many of us had Star Tacs and that was the most durable phone I've ever had. Plus everyone and their mother had a RAZR. So the Motorola brand is special to us. They fianlly joined the 21st century and I think they did a great job and future incarnations of the DROID will only get that much better.
Now that you mention it, all of my cell phones before my iPhone were Motorola phones. First a Digital Elite on Cellular One, then an i1000plus on Nextel, then a RAZR V3xx on AT&T. I especially liked the V3xx; it had the best sound quality I've heard from a cell phone, much better than the iPhone. I would still be using it if it wasn't for the iPhone, particularly the 3Gs. I'm not one who replaces my phone every couple of years (as you can tell if you remember when the above models came out). But a mobile computer, on the other hand... yikes, this could get bad for my wallet!
Apple on the other hand has always appealed to the more visual appealing types: women, children, gays and artist men like myself. Who on many times, rather pay a fortune to have the flashiest device and more likely to be caught by impulsive decisions.
Yea. Men aren't attracted to visually appealing things... right. Whichis why "men" don't buy things like sports cars, watches, oh yea and Motorola's most popular devices were popular because they weren't visually appealing (Razr?)
Men want thinks that just work, and can GTD... sounds a lot like an iPhone to me.
It seems what you're really saying is unartistic, straight men are attracted to objects with sharp edges. Not soft, rounded ones that are appealing to look at and touch... Somehow that doesn't sound right to me (although I might be "artistic").
Outside of blatant, somewhat offensive stereotyping it seems you don't have much to say.
On another note: How can a device that's been out a few weeks inspire LOYALTY? doesn't loyalty take a bit longer, lets give it 5 weeks and see if they're still with it.
I'm not even close to "wealthy", but I was in Best Buy yesterday and I saw the Droid for the first time. It wasn't hooked up so I couldn't see what it could do, but I slid out the built in keyboard - DID NOT LIKE AT ALL, BUT WAS BETTER THAN THE PALM PRE AND I UTTERLY HATED THAT, and they also had an Apple iPhone 3GS and it was hooked up and you can see what it could do, typed on it's keyboard (again), went online, etc. Still not smartphone owner, though I'm mighty impressed still with the iPhone and if and when I get a app phone, it'd be iPhone 3GS or latest version hardware and phone OS.
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I first checked the Droid at Best Buy as well. It was the model phone and like you, thought the keyboard was absolutely awful. I then saw the actual device at a Verizon store and the keyboard was much better. Nowhere near as good as the Samsung Moment, but definitely better than a soft keyboard. That was the single biggest reason why I went from the iPhone to the G1.
What most of you seem to realize is that men in their 30s and 40s remember Motorola fondly. Many of us had Star Tacs and that was the most durable phone I've ever had. Plus everyone and their mother had a RAZR. So the Motorola brand is special to us. They fianlly joined the 21st century and I think they did a great job and future incarnations of the DROID will only get that much better.
that's so very true. the last cell phone i had before the iphone was the star tac. paid something like $1300 for it... i remember the thrill of hooking it up to my newton (with a $120 cable) and accessing the internet through compuserve...
after getting screwed with the 3 year contract i signed at the time, it took the iphone to make me want a cell again...
i do have a soft spot for motorola. after all - their chips were at the heart of the mac for years. that said - i wouldn't give up my iphone for a droid - but i wish motorola well! it would be a shame for them to disappear...
Yep. They also made the M680x0 CPU's found in all Macs before the PowerPC.
Motorola is a huge electronics company. Over the years, they've made and sold just about any and every electronic device you can think of.
Yes the built CPUs but they sold off that business as Freescale Semi Conductor and it went private. The motorola of old and today are not the same. They rested on their laurels a bit long IMO.
As far as the Droid and Moto reputation the study lacks credibility. How do you gain brand loyalty over a one month period. Brand loyalty means you are likely to purchase another widget from the same manufacture and Apple has proven to have amazingly sticky fan base and I would expect similar results for the Iphone. Any survey which shows a weekly variation of 30% for something which takes years to establish is BS.
I suppose this brand loyalty survey was done before the two week breaking point of the Droid’s battery cover. You’d think a company like Moto would have had this simple component ironed out years ago.
Motorola, "motor" is definably more appealing to most men, not just the name either. The phones work and are reasonably priced, very attractive to those who earn their money and think along value and cost.
Apple on the other hand has always appealed to the more visual appealing types: women, children, gays and artist men like myself. Who on many times, rather pay a fortune to have the flashiest device and more likely to be caught by impulsive decisions.
I avoided the iPhone completely, unlike the many iPods I've owned, there is no way I'm going to pay over $100 a month for a device that doesn't do much of anything very well that I can't do better with regular devices or my MacBook Pro.
I'm still waiting for a iPhone app emulator, it can't be THAT hard, the processor in the iPhone isn't very powerful that a dual core can't emulate it.
So what's the holdup, nobody wants to get rich anymore?
So why do guys like flashy cars & flashy home theatre systems. Guys like things that don't waste their time, something that a simple phone is very good at.
I'm loyal to the iPhone so long as it keeps impressing me with the following 3 things.
1. Stability
2. Battery Life
3. Functionality
I'm a network admin so I'm on-call 24/7. I used to have to haul a laptop with me everywhere, but not anymore. I can do everything I need to from my phone, reboot servers, unlock accounts, configure network ports, etc. That means my life is much simpler and that's all I care about.
I switched from PC to Mac for the same reason. I used to spend hours & hours each month fixing weird issues that would just arise with our PC and on top of that at least once every 6 months it would get so bad I'd have to reload from scratch to get any sort of performance out of it. My time is money! I switched to Mac and my home computer now runs better even than the day I bought it (5 years ago) and that is with 2 upgrades to the OS! Forget upgrading Windows, geesh!
So I have to respectfully disagree. Men like simplicity and they like sexy, both of which the iPhone is. Actually now that I think about it most of the people I know who love their iPhone are men, & many of the women I know could care less about it (I'm not touching that one).
If I could hack, I would have produced the emulator already and be rich.
You would hack the Apple Emulator and attempt to sell it?
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It's rather dumb to have iPhone apps on iPhones only, kind of defeats the purpose buying a Mac.
You buy a Mac to run iPhone apps?
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And I do take my laptop where I go because I drive a car
You never get out of your car?
When you go to the store or walk around town or wherever, you bring your laptop, iPod, GPS and camera with you?
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The 15" screen MBP beats the pants off the iPhone's tiny screen anyway.
You mean it beats it for a larger size. It does not beat it for portability and weight considerations.
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If I lived in the city and rode the bus, subway or cab, then yes the iPhone would be a better fit if it fit my needs. But I would still need to drag the laptop along regardless.
You NEED your laptop with you everywhere, all the time, even if you aren't working?
So why do guys like flashy cars & flashy home theatre systems. Guys like things that don't waste their time, something that a simple phone is very good at. ...
While we are generalising, I'd say you have it exactly backwards. Women don't like to waste their time on gee-gaws and silly gadgets. Whereas men absolutely *live* for complicated thing-ama-jiggies that do all kinds of useless stuff and take hours and hours of time to set up, figure out, and maintain.
I present as exhibit one, the automobile and tinkering with the engine of same.
Also, didn't a part of Motorola, along with IBM and Apple, create chips for the Mac before the switch of the Mac to Intel?
You're right about that! I stand corrected! Thanks for doing it so civilly!
And to the other poster, my wife had a StarTac and she used it well past the V60 era and well into the RAZR period. I do remember that was a very desirable phone at the time!
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Motorola improved the cable modem to a sleek black vertical modem called the "Shark" and it's working great on my desktop as I type!
Also, didn't a part of Motorola, along with IBM and Apple, create chips for the Mac before the switch of the Mac to Intel?
Yep. They also made the M680x0 CPU's found in all Macs before the PowerPC.
Motorola is a huge electronics company. Over the years, they've made and sold just about any and every electronic device you can think of.
What most of you seem to realize is that men in their 30s and 40s remember Motorola fondly. Many of us had Star Tacs and that was the most durable phone I've ever had. Plus everyone and their mother had a RAZR. So the Motorola brand is special to us. They fianlly joined the 21st century and I think they did a great job and future incarnations of the DROID will only get that much better.
Now that you mention it, all of my cell phones before my iPhone were Motorola phones. First a Digital Elite on Cellular One, then an i1000plus on Nextel, then a RAZR V3xx on AT&T. I especially liked the V3xx; it had the best sound quality I've heard from a cell phone, much better than the iPhone. I would still be using it if it wasn't for the iPhone, particularly the 3Gs. I'm not one who replaces my phone every couple of years (as you can tell if you remember when the above models came out). But a mobile computer, on the other hand... yikes, this could get bad for my wallet!
Apple on the other hand has always appealed to the more visual appealing types: women, children, gays and artist men like myself. Who on many times, rather pay a fortune to have the flashiest device and more likely to be caught by impulsive decisions.
Yea. Men aren't attracted to visually appealing things... right. Whichis why "men" don't buy things like sports cars, watches, oh yea and Motorola's most popular devices were popular because they weren't visually appealing (Razr?)
Men want thinks that just work, and can GTD... sounds a lot like an iPhone to me.
It seems what you're really saying is unartistic, straight men are attracted to objects with sharp edges. Not soft, rounded ones that are appealing to look at and touch... Somehow that doesn't sound right to me (although I might be "artistic").
Outside of blatant, somewhat offensive stereotyping it seems you don't have much to say.
On another note: How can a device that's been out a few weeks inspire LOYALTY? doesn't loyalty take a bit longer, lets give it 5 weeks and see if they're still with it.
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"But the speed of the move and the need to sweeten the price suggests that Verizon and Motorola aren't happy with the pace of Droid sales. "
I'm not even close to "wealthy", but I was in Best Buy yesterday and I saw the Droid for the first time. It wasn't hooked up so I couldn't see what it could do, but I slid out the built in keyboard - DID NOT LIKE AT ALL, BUT WAS BETTER THAN THE PALM PRE AND I UTTERLY HATED THAT, and they also had an Apple iPhone 3GS and it was hooked up and you can see what it could do, typed on it's keyboard (again), went online, etc. Still not smartphone owner, though I'm mighty impressed still with the iPhone and if and when I get a app phone, it'd be iPhone 3GS or latest version hardware and phone OS.
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I first checked the Droid at Best Buy as well. It was the model phone and like you, thought the keyboard was absolutely awful. I then saw the actual device at a Verizon store and the keyboard was much better. Nowhere near as good as the Samsung Moment, but definitely better than a soft keyboard. That was the single biggest reason why I went from the iPhone to the G1.
If your erection lasts for more than four hours, call your doctor.
What most of you seem to realize is that men in their 30s and 40s remember Motorola fondly. Many of us had Star Tacs and that was the most durable phone I've ever had. Plus everyone and their mother had a RAZR. So the Motorola brand is special to us. They fianlly joined the 21st century and I think they did a great job and future incarnations of the DROID will only get that much better.
that's so very true. the last cell phone i had before the iphone was the star tac. paid something like $1300 for it... i remember the thrill of hooking it up to my newton (with a $120 cable) and accessing the internet through compuserve...
after getting screwed with the 3 year contract i signed at the time, it took the iphone to make me want a cell again...
i do have a soft spot for motorola. after all - their chips were at the heart of the mac for years. that said - i wouldn't give up my iphone for a droid - but i wish motorola well! it would be a shame for them to disappear...
I wouldn't say 'garbage' but I use it more because I 'have it with me!' Where as a dedicated video camera stays at home most of the time.
I liken the 3Gs video as more of 'snap shot' camera as opposed to an SLR with interchangeable lens. The 'snap shot' camera gets used more.
I agree - it's not as bad as it could have been. It will get upgraded I would think next June.
I think it's decent for what it is. I could certainly use a flash though for the stills.
Yep. They also made the M680x0 CPU's found in all Macs before the PowerPC.
Motorola is a huge electronics company. Over the years, they've made and sold just about any and every electronic device you can think of.
Yes the built CPUs but they sold off that business as Freescale Semi Conductor and it went private. The motorola of old and today are not the same. They rested on their laurels a bit long IMO.
As far as the Droid and Moto reputation the study lacks credibility. How do you gain brand loyalty over a one month period. Brand loyalty means you are likely to purchase another widget from the same manufacture and Apple has proven to have amazingly sticky fan base and I would expect similar results for the Iphone. Any survey which shows a weekly variation of 30% for something which takes years to establish is BS.
Motorola, "motor" is definably more appealing to most men, not just the name either. The phones work and are reasonably priced, very attractive to those who earn their money and think along value and cost.
Apple on the other hand has always appealed to the more visual appealing types: women, children, gays and artist men like myself. Who on many times, rather pay a fortune to have the flashiest device and more likely to be caught by impulsive decisions.
I avoided the iPhone completely, unlike the many iPods I've owned, there is no way I'm going to pay over $100 a month for a device that doesn't do much of anything very well that I can't do better with regular devices or my MacBook Pro.
I'm still waiting for a iPhone app emulator, it can't be THAT hard, the processor in the iPhone isn't very powerful that a dual core can't emulate it.
So what's the holdup, nobody wants to get rich anymore?
So why do guys like flashy cars & flashy home theatre systems. Guys like things that don't waste their time, something that a simple phone is very good at.
I'm loyal to the iPhone so long as it keeps impressing me with the following 3 things.
1. Stability
2. Battery Life
3. Functionality
I'm a network admin so I'm on-call 24/7. I used to have to haul a laptop with me everywhere, but not anymore. I can do everything I need to from my phone, reboot servers, unlock accounts, configure network ports, etc. That means my life is much simpler and that's all I care about.
I switched from PC to Mac for the same reason. I used to spend hours & hours each month fixing weird issues that would just arise with our PC and on top of that at least once every 6 months it would get so bad I'd have to reload from scratch to get any sort of performance out of it. My time is money! I switched to Mac and my home computer now runs better even than the day I bought it (5 years ago) and that is with 2 upgrades to the OS! Forget upgrading Windows, geesh!
So I have to respectfully disagree. Men like simplicity and they like sexy, both of which the iPhone is. Actually now that I think about it most of the people I know who love their iPhone are men, & many of the women I know could care less about it (I'm not touching that one).
If I could hack, I would have produced the emulator already and be rich.
You would hack the Apple Emulator and attempt to sell it?
It's rather dumb to have iPhone apps on iPhones only, kind of defeats the purpose buying a Mac.
You buy a Mac to run iPhone apps?
And I do take my laptop where I go because I drive a car
You never get out of your car?
When you go to the store or walk around town or wherever, you bring your laptop, iPod, GPS and camera with you?
The 15" screen MBP beats the pants off the iPhone's tiny screen anyway.
You mean it beats it for a larger size. It does not beat it for portability and weight considerations.
If I lived in the city and rode the bus, subway or cab, then yes the iPhone would be a better fit if it fit my needs. But I would still need to drag the laptop along regardless.
You NEED your laptop with you everywhere, all the time, even if you aren't working?
I suppose this brand loyalty survey was done before the two week breaking point of the Droid’s battery cover.
Somehow Apple avoided this problem with the iPhone.
Real. Men. Prefer. Apples.
iFeel better now.
(Don't worry, my precious 3Gs - I will never-ever leave you!)
This article and the study itself is idiotic
Makes sense to me. Men 18+ are dumb as sh*t. The fact that they like Motorolla better than Apple seems to fit right in with that.
So why do guys like flashy cars & flashy home theatre systems. Guys like things that don't waste their time, something that a simple phone is very good at. ...
While we are generalising, I'd say you have it exactly backwards. Women don't like to waste their time on gee-gaws and silly gadgets. Whereas men absolutely *live* for complicated thing-ama-jiggies that do all kinds of useless stuff and take hours and hours of time to set up, figure out, and maintain.
I present as exhibit one, the automobile and tinkering with the engine of same.
Also, didn't a part of Motorola, along with IBM and Apple, create chips for the Mac before the switch of the Mac to Intel?
You're right about that! I stand corrected! Thanks for doing it so civilly!
And to the other poster, my wife had a StarTac and she used it well past the V60 era and well into the RAZR period. I do remember that was a very desirable phone at the time!
Makes sense to me. Men 18+ are dumb as sh*t. The fact that they like Motorolla better than Apple seems to fit right in with that.
Best quote of the day! I used to be 18+ and really didn't know sh*t till I was about 50.