Apple to replace iPads in need of new battery for $99

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  • Reply 181 of 222
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
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    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    Some of those things were actually stated by Steve Jobs, how do you explain that? He himself said that video on an iPod was a bad idea on at least one occasion.



    Something to add to that, he also said that "people don't read books", but now they have a book store and book reader app coming shortly. I'm pretty sure Jobs made statements saying that tablets were a bad idea, I need to look that up to be sure, the other examples I'm pretty sure about.



    Misdirection and taking his comments too literally.



    There have been several occasions when Apple/Jobs has made a comment that something won't happen which we know means that it will. Besides the "people don't read" comment Jobs also said that they don't know how to make a $500 computer. It looks like they found a way.



    Everything a company says has an unspoken qualifier appended to it: "unless we can make money from it." Nothing in Haggar's posts is remotely true, it's really just just an odd posting he's been doing for years since he won't be back to defend or explain his 'position'.
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  • Reply 182 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,764member
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    Originally Posted by Blah64 View Post


    The encryption is not what it's cracked up to be. Read this:

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10295348-245.html



    The encryption works fine - what that exploit does is remove the pass code. It doesn't negate the in device encryption or the wipe feature.



    Notice, if you watch the video, that he points out the data is decrypted as you copy the data off of the phone. So a wipe on the 3GS does work - the encryption is fine.



    Just don't rely on the PIN to protect your phone or your data if you loose physical control of it



    Quote:

    Let's hope OS 4.0+ will address issues like this.



    Yes - but that will probably kill jailbreaking (which I am expecting on 3GS and later hardware with 4.0). Even though Apple never said they would support jailbreaking, when they finally do plug the holes Apple will be the "evil assholes preventing us from doing whatever we want with our hardware" - even though they were never promised that as a feature. Sigh....
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  • Reply 183 of 222
    docno42docno42 Posts: 3,764member
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    Originally Posted by stevegmu View Post


    I'm sure a MorphieJuicePack, or other variation will be developed and on the market shortly after launch. Besides, 10 hours of continuous use should be enough battery power for anyone.



    Meh - my Sanyo eneloop Mobile USB Booster will charge my iPhone two and a half times, and will charge my blackberry (work provided ) twice - and it works with any other USB device I own.



    It cost less than $30 at Costco. I wish I would have bought a second one since they haven't had them for some time



    The whole battery thing tends to be WAY overblown by extreme use cases that affect less than 5% of users - and are easily solved by something inexpensive like the Sanyo product above.
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  • Reply 184 of 222
    brucepbrucep Posts: 2,823member
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    Originally Posted by DaHarder View Post


    Nope... Just that the hardware was never actually worth US 500.00 to 830.00 in the first place if it can so readily be replaced for US 100.00.



    It's Really That Simple -



    math is hard
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  • Reply 185 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
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    Originally Posted by Haggar View Post


    That page is obviously a lie because according to Apple defenders, the hardware design used in the aluminum Powerbook G4 and original MacBook Pro was perfect, and it is impossible to make a thinner, lighter or more durable laptop which was also easier to service.



    Apple will not make a video iPod. Nobody wants to watch video on an iPod.



    Apple will not make a cell phone.



    Apple should not allow third parties to create native iPhone applications. Web apps are really SWEET.



    Apple will never switch to Intel processors.



    What exactly was the point to that post?
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  • Reply 186 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    Some of those things were actually stated by Steve Jobs, how do you explain that? He himself said that video on an iPod was a bad idea on at least one occasion.



    Something to add to that, he also said that "people don't read books", but now they have a book store and book reader app coming shortly. I'm pretty sure Jobs made statements saying that tablets were a bad idea, I need to look that up to be sure, the other examples I'm pretty sure about.



    So? Things change. I don't believe everything I did earlier in my life, do you?



    The problem with Haggar's post is that it's irrelevant to anything being said here. Beside, Jobs did qualify that reading remark.
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  • Reply 187 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by DocNo42 View Post


    The encryption works fine - what that exploit does is remove the pass code. It doesn't negate the in device encryption or the wipe feature.



    Notice, if you watch the video, that he points out the data is decrypted as you copy the data off of the phone. So a wipe on the 3GS does work - the encryption is fine.



    Just don't rely on the PIN to protect your phone or your data if you loose physical control of it







    Yes - but that will probably kill jailbreaking (which I am expecting on 3GS and later hardware with 4.0). Even though Apple never said they would support jailbreaking, when they finally do plug the holes Apple will be the "evil assholes preventing us from doing whatever we want with our hardware" - even though they were never promised that as a feature. Sigh....



    One of the reasons why the financial industry and government are still leery of the iPhone is because of the possibility of a lost or stolen phone being jailbroken. If Apple wants to get more sales in critical industries, they will have to stop it. It's one reason why WebOS and Android aren't being looked at too favorably in those areas.
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  • Reply 188 of 222
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    Some of those things were actually stated by Steve Jobs, how do you explain that? He himself said that video on an iPod was a bad idea on at least one occasion.



    Something to add to that, he also said that "people don't read books", but now they have a book store and book reader app coming shortly. I'm pretty sure Jobs made statements saying that tablets were a bad idea, I need to look that up to be sure, the other examples I'm pretty sure about.



    Which has nothing to do with what the post in question was about, being a vague, largely incoherent and apropos of nothing swipe at "Apple defenders" who apparently were anti-video on the iPod et al as well.



    On a more general note, how is it that the mods around here are fine with endless, contentless anti-Apple snark driving half the threads into a ditch but see fit to step up to defend same? Is there some kind of terror of being seen as a fan boy enabler on the shitty Apple site so you'd have to hang your head amongst your cooler, Android using friends?
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  • Reply 189 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
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    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    Which has nothing to do with what the post in question was about, being a vague, largely incoherent and apropos of nothing swipe at "Apple defenders" who apparently were anti-video on the iPod et al as well.



    On a more general note, how is it that the mods around here are fine with endless, contentless anti-Apple snark driving half the threads into a ditch but see fit to step up to defend same? Is there some kind of terror of being seen as a fan boy enabler on the shitty Apple site so you'd have to hang your head amongst your cooler, Android using friends?



    I won't defend their posts. But what do you propose we do about them? Some people want us to delete posts that are negative. Do you want that?



    As I'm sure you know, I've battled with these people as well. But where would we stop?
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  • Reply 190 of 222
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
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    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    So? Things change. I don't believe everything I did earlier in my life, do you?



    No, but given the relatively short time period between remark and product countering remark, I'd be surprised if they weren't developing said product at the time. As solipsism said, it was probably a fair share of misdirection. And I've seen fans take that misdirection as the truth.



    Quote:

    The problem with Haggar's post is that it's irrelevant to anything being said here. Beside, Jobs did qualify that reading remark.



    I know what you mean, I read the qualification, he was carefully using statistics to give the wrong impression of how things were.
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  • Reply 191 of 222
    vineavinea Posts: 5,585member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I won't defend their posts. But what do you propose we do about them? Some people want us to delete posts that are negative. Do you want that?



    As I'm sure you know, I've battled with these people as well. But where would we stop?



    This is the problem with mods "having an opinion" and discussing in the same forums they post. There is always the assumption that they are biased. In this case, it seems justified. Of course that just makes me a fanboi and can't think for myself.



    Frankly, given the negativity toward the iPad and in some cases to Apple in general as espoused by some of the mods it's not surprising that the forums have become a haven for trollers. Besides, what are you guys really doing? Tekstud flaunted his ban for so long it became a joke.



    Any forum where mods posted "opinion" in those same forums became a cesspit. Either they agreed with the trouble makers and let them continue their antics to the detriment of the forums or they felt they had to go easy on them to appear unbiased and let them continue their antics to the detriment to the forums.



    This is AppleInsider and the community is pro-Apple. A curmudgeon with a moderately low post count is fine, even beneficial or healthy. Someone like iGenius is not. Negativity is fine. Trolling is not.



    When you have large numbers of folks telling one or two folks to STFU over multiple pages then you need to take action beyond saying "use the ignore feature". Which is an epic fail because of ALL THE FOLKS TELLING THESE IDIOTS TO STFU OVER MULTIPLE PAGES.



    iGenius, DaHarder and Extremeskater have been trolling the forum for months. The mods complete inability to deal with Tekstud have spurred them on to being far more blatant about trolling. After all, they can always come back as DAHARDER for a month or two before getting banned again and then start over with a new handle.
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  • Reply 192 of 222
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,954member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by addabox View Post


    On a more general note, how is it that the mods around here are fine with endless, contentless anti-Apple snark driving half the threads into a ditch but see fit to step up to defend same? Is there some kind of terror of being seen as a fan boy enabler on the shitty Apple site so you'd have to hang your head amongst your cooler, Android using friends?



    I don't have any Android using friends, that's a red herring. I also don't feel I have to see things the way anyone else does. I honestly think a good point was raised, even if the messenger might be dubious.



    While we're at it, I was the first or among the first in this thread (after satchmo) to counter the complaints about this program with an explanation:



    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...9&postcount=15

    http://forums.appleinsider.com/showp...6&postcount=20



    Seems convenient to forget that in the heat of a later discussion.
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  • Reply 193 of 222
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
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    Originally Posted by Kibitzer View Post


    Batteries are not the reliability problem these days. Hard drives are - as they've always been. ............ The big improvement in overall reliability will come in the next few years when solid state drives scale up in capacity while becoming more affordable.



    Have a SSD in my MBP-best investment I've made. Fast and MBP seems to run cooler than HDD equipped MBP. Only hope that Apple will support SSD's more and add a TRIM command in the OS. Long term use of SSD nearing capacity, speeds decrease. TRIM command will address this issue.



    Don't look for SSD prices not to drop soon as there seems to be a shortage of NAND and Apple has a big appetite for NAND see on AI:



    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ash_deals.html
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  • Reply 194 of 222
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    So? Things change. I don't believe everything I did earlier in my life, do you?



    The problem with Haggar's post is that it's irrelevant to anything being said here. Beside, Jobs did qualify that reading remark.



    Just recently returned to this thread--left it because I thought that it was done with and I was reviewing other threads at the time. When I saw Haggar's post using mine as a quote-I thought he was jesting. Sometimes you don't know if the person is serious or not. Agreed that his is irrelevant, main reason that I didn't address it at the time.
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  • Reply 195 of 222
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by melgross View Post


    I won't defend their posts. But what do you propose we do about them? Some people want us to delete posts that are negative. Do you want that?



    As I'm sure you know, I've battled with these people as well. But where would we stop?



    That's one of the reasons for the ignore list (IL). The choice is up to each user whom to ignore. (By the way, none of the people referencing my quote are on my IL.)



    One problem with the IL is that you are still left to read the ignored when someone responds to their post. Is there some way when you choose to have someone on your ignore list, where AI can also have the responses to the ignored are also not viewed?
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  • Reply 196 of 222
    finetunesfinetunes Posts: 2,065member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    This is AppleInsider and the community is pro-Apple. A curmudgeon with a moderately low post count is fine, even beneficial or healthy. Someone like iGenius is not. Negativity is fine. Trolling is not.



    When you have large numbers of folks telling one or two folks to STFU over multiple pages then you need to take action beyond saying "use the ignore feature". Which is an epic fail because of ALL THE FOLKS TELLING THESE IDIOTS TO STFU OVER MULTIPLE PAGES.



    iGenius, DaHarder and Extremeskater have been trolling the forum for months. The mods complete inability to deal with Tekstud have spurred them on to being far more blatant about trolling. After all, they can always come back as DAHARDER for a month or two before getting banned again and then start over with a new handle.



    The best defense is for the AI community to ignore these people altogether. When you respond to their post, you only encourage them. Try the ignore list--helps but is not perfect. Read my other post just above. Agreed that those listed seem to be the worst, but then you will find some who will defend some of those whom you mentioned.
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  • Reply 197 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by JeffDM View Post


    No, but given the relatively short time period between remark and product countering remark, I'd be surprised if they weren't developing said product at the time. As solipsism said, it was probably a fair share of misdirection. And I've seen fans take that misdirection as the truth.



    It's certainly possibly, but there was no evidence that people were interested in watching video on a small handheld device at the time. There were a lot of them out there, and even though some looked good, they didn't sell.



    Quote:

    I know what you mean, I read the qualification, he was carefully using statistics to give the wrong impression of how things were.



    The book industry wouldn't have disagreed with him privately, even though they weren't happy about it being said so publicly. Book sales had been going down for years. The feeling at the major book fairs over the past few years was a sense of desperation.
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  • Reply 198 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by vinea View Post


    This is the problem with mods "having an opinion" and discussing in the same forums they post. There is always the assumption that they are biased. In this case, it seems justified. Of course that just makes me a fanboi and can't think for myself.



    Frankly, given the negativity toward the iPad and in some cases to Apple in general as espoused by some of the mods it's not surprising that the forums have become a haven for trollers. Besides, what are you guys really doing? Tekstud flaunted his ban for so long it became a joke.



    Any forum where mods posted "opinion" in those same forums became a cesspit. Either they agreed with the trouble makers and let them continue their antics to the detriment of the forums or they felt they had to go easy on them to appear unbiased and let them continue their antics to the detriment to the forums.



    This is AppleInsider and the community is pro-Apple. A curmudgeon with a moderately low post count is fine, even beneficial or healthy. Someone like iGenius is not. Negativity is fine. Trolling is not.



    When you have large numbers of folks telling one or two folks to STFU over multiple pages then you need to take action beyond saying "use the ignore feature". Which is an epic fail because of ALL THE FOLKS TELLING THESE IDIOTS TO STFU OVER MULTIPLE PAGES.



    iGenius, DaHarder and Extremeskater have been trolling the forum for months. The mods complete inability to deal with Tekstud have spurred them on to being far more blatant about trolling. After all, they can always come back as DAHARDER for a month or two before getting banned again and then start over with a new handle.



    If you go to sites such as Ars Technica, you'll find admins such as Caesar, mods, writers, etc, participating as well. The have also modded the same forums as they were in. They've kept a lower profile more recently than in the past though.



    It isn't an inability to deal with these people, it's a reluctance to exhibit a dampening effect upon the debate. You think it's a simple solution because you have no responsibility to execute it.



    Here, most, or possibly, all the mods were members first.



    If you became a mod, how would you handle it? And don't answer saying that you wouldn't do it, it's just a case of curiosity.
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  • Reply 199 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post


    Have a SSD in my MBP-best investment I've made. Fast and MBP seems to run cooler than HDD equipped MBP. Only hope that Apple will support SSD's more and add a TRIM command in the OS. Long term use of SSD nearing capacity, speeds decrease. TRIM command will address this issue.



    Don't look for SSD prices not to drop soon as there seems to be a shortage of NAND and Apple has a big appetite for NAND see on AI:



    http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...ash_deals.html



    How are you dealing with the slowdown?



    It's not when the SSD begins to fill up that it begins to slowdown. It's extended use. You can have your drive 25% full constantly, adding and removing files, but it will begin to slowdown seriously anyway because of the way SSD's work.
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  • Reply 200 of 222
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,713member
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    Originally Posted by FineTunes View Post


    That's one of the reasons for the ignore list (IL). The choice is up to each user whom to ignore. (By the way, none of the people referencing my quote are on my IL.)



    One problem with the IL is that you are still left to read the ignored when someone responds to their post. Is there some way when you choose to have someone on your ignore list, where AI can also have the responses to the ignored are also not viewed?



    Not that I know of.
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