It's like California saying only Chevrolets can drive on thier roads, isn't it?
Is your auto spell working? Just kidding, been some comments on auto spell, please take no offense. Sometimes a bit of levity will help ease the tensions that can build up in some of these threads--so far this one has been great. Thanks
I have a BB Tour and don't like it. They shrunk the keys down so much on this model that it becomes very hard to type.
Separately, I tried a BB Storm 2 and its virtual keyboard was nowhere as good or useful as the one on the iPhone I tried. Unfortunately, our company is Verizonwireless-only.
I figured that would be your response. No real reason other than "it looks like Windows so it's automatically bad!!!!". You can do better than that.
Does OS X not multitask as well? A BB multitasks as well and it has the best security for a consumer smartphone (minus any of those government/military models).
Multitasking is on the rock-bottom of having to do with whether or not a device can get a virus.
Is your auto spell working? Just kidding, been some comments on auto spell, please take no offense. Sometimes a bit of levity will help ease the tensions that can build up in some of these threads--so far this one has been great. Thanks
Actually, my wife and I have had some laugh-out-loud moments thanks to the auto-spell feature of the iPhone. Occasionally, the corrections can be somewhat comical, especially if you don't catch them in time.
We already have gone. Enjoy your Googley-Google "phone".
Uh, why is the word phone in parentheses? Is it because it drops calls or has difficulty to receive calls due to poor signal like the i"phone" on the AT&T network?
Uh, why is the word phone in parentheses? Is it because it drops calls or has difficulty to receive calls due to poor signal like the i"phone" on the AT&T network?
Ooooooo, nice very first post. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
Why is everyone who doesn't like AT&T or the iPhone a troll? iPhones vs other smart Phones or AT&T vs Verizon orTMobil is like the 50's clash of Chevy's vs Fords. Some people are just happier with one over the other -- their choice.
I'm sorry... 39% does NOT amount to "nearly half." (If you insist on using terms like that, it would be more correct to say "just over one third.")
That being said. I am satisfied with my iPhone, but as long as they are strictly AT&T, I will not get another. I will hold on to this one until the iPhone is available on other carriers. Then this one will become a glorified iPod Touch. (Glorified, because it will still be able to call 911.)
Survey Says: In a recent survey conducted here, there are at lease 5 post in this thread that mention that they do not like AT&T. Although this is based upon a small sample size--if we extrapolate that data to the real word we can infer that there are at least five people who don't like AT&T.
Agreed, Apple definitely needs to open the iPhone up to Verizon or Sprint. Seems like win win to me.
If only it were that simple.
AT&T uses GSM, which is by far the most common technology for mobile devices in the world. I think something like 80 percent of mobile networks run on GSM worldwide. That's why Apple can sell the iPhone all over the planet. T-Mobile also uses GSM, so in theory you could get your iPhone to work on the T-Mobile network with the right SIM chip.
Verizon and Sprint, by contrast, use CDMA. That's a totally different technology. An iPhone cannot work on the Verizon network no matter what you do, because it would need totally different radio guts.
If Apple wants to put the iPhone on the Verizon network after AT&T's exclusivity deal expires, they're going to have to do one of two things. Either they'll have to have two different iPhones ? a GSM one for the world, and a CDMA one just for Verizon and Sprint ? or they'll have to have one iPhone with both GSM and CDMA hardware in it.
Both options suck. Right now, supporting both GSM and CDMA is impractical, because you'd have to physically cram more guts into the iPhone. There've been rumors of dual-standard chips and antennas from chip makers like Qualcomm, but they're just rumors right now; I don't think there are any shipping dual-standard chips for Apple to use.
On the other hand, having a CDMA iPhone and a GSM iPhone would be doable, but inefficient. Say you buy a CDMA iPhone tomorrow and sign up with Verizon. Later you decide to move to London. You can't just transfer your mobile service to O2 and go on with your life. You either have to buy a separate GSM iPhone, or go through a "side-grade" process with Apple if one is in place. Even if the side-grade is just going to an Apple store and handing in your one-standard iPhone and walking out with an other-standard iPhone, it's still overhead for Apple. It stinks.
The right answer, of course, is a dual-standard iPhone. One model, with one set of guts, that can be sold and will work anywhere in the world, on either GSM or CDMA. This makes business sense not just in the US, where AT&T and Verizon split the lion's share of mobile subscribers almost 50/50, but even more so in China where CDMA is going strong and the market is much, much larger overall.
But the technology's just not there yet.
I'm no wireless expert, by far. But if you made me place a bet, I'd say the odds are 60 percent there will be a new iPhone in late June/early July, but that it will still be GSM-only. It may be carrier unlocked, so it can work on T-Mobile and the thousand and one regional GSM networks in the US, but it won't be dual-standard. I give it a 40 percent chance that Apple will break their three-year tradition and not release a new iPhone this summer at all, just new software for all iPhones.
But I'd say the odds are very high ? virtually certain ? that there will be a dual-standard iPhone in 2011, maybe as early as the first quarter. Apple just has to wait for the chip manufacturers to get their technology working and shipping on a large scale.
But what do I know. I'm just a guy on the Internet.
No physical keyboard, no tethering and stuck with AT&T?
Baloney. I have an iPhone and I'm not getting another one. No matter how much koolaid I ingest, I can't justify a smart phone that can't make phone calls.
I'll be first in line when apple partners with a provider that has coverage where I live and work.
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NO AT&T, hell no, we won't go to ATT&T!
We already have gone. Enjoy your Googley-Google "phone".
It's like California saying only Chevrolets can drive on thier roads, isn't it?
Is your auto spell working? Just kidding, been some comments on auto spell, please take no offense. Sometimes a bit of levity will help ease the tensions that can build up in some of these threads--so far this one has been great. Thanks
Separately, I tried a BB Storm 2 and its virtual keyboard was nowhere as good or useful as the one on the iPhone I tried. Unfortunately, our company is Verizonwireless-only.
It is like Windows.
I figured that would be your response. No real reason other than "it looks like Windows so it's automatically bad!!!!". You can do better than that.
Does OS X not multitask as well? A BB multitasks as well and it has the best security for a consumer smartphone (minus any of those government/military models).
Multitasking is on the rock-bottom of having to do with whether or not a device can get a virus.
It is like Windows.
What?
Is your auto spell working? Just kidding, been some comments on auto spell, please take no offense. Sometimes a bit of levity will help ease the tensions that can build up in some of these threads--so far this one has been great. Thanks
Actually, my wife and I have had some laugh-out-loud moments thanks to the auto-spell feature of the iPhone. Occasionally, the corrections can be somewhat comical, especially if you don't catch them in time.
It is like Windows.
I fail to connect the dots. Where does multitasking=viruses=Windows??
If it wasn't on the AT&T network.
Ooooooo, nice very first post. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
We already have gone. Enjoy your Googley-Google "phone".
Uh, why is the word phone in parentheses? Is it because it drops calls or has difficulty to receive calls due to poor signal like the i"phone" on the AT&T network?
Uh, why is the word phone in parentheses? Is it because it drops calls or has difficulty to receive calls due to poor signal like the i"phone" on the AT&T network?
They're quotation marks, not parentheses.
We already have gone. Enjoy your Googley-Google "phone".
You sure have gone...
Off the deep end.
Ooooooo, nice very first post. Now run along and troll somewhere else.
Why is everyone who doesn't like AT&T or the iPhone a troll? iPhones vs other smart Phones or AT&T vs Verizon orTMobil is like the 50's clash of Chevy's vs Fords. Some people are just happier with one over the other -- their choice.
That being said. I am satisfied with my iPhone, but as long as they are strictly AT&T, I will not get another. I will hold on to this one until the iPhone is available on other carriers. Then this one will become a glorified iPod Touch. (Glorified, because it will still be able to call 911.)
They're quotation marks, not parentheses.
His/Hers auto spell wasn't working
They're quotation marks, not parentheses.
Haha, you got me.
Haha, you got me.
Sorry, I couldn't resist. Just pokin' a little fun. No offense meant.
So much for surveys.
Agreed, Apple definitely needs to open the iPhone up to Verizon or Sprint. Seems like win win to me.
If only it were that simple.
AT&T uses GSM, which is by far the most common technology for mobile devices in the world. I think something like 80 percent of mobile networks run on GSM worldwide. That's why Apple can sell the iPhone all over the planet. T-Mobile also uses GSM, so in theory you could get your iPhone to work on the T-Mobile network with the right SIM chip.
Verizon and Sprint, by contrast, use CDMA. That's a totally different technology. An iPhone cannot work on the Verizon network no matter what you do, because it would need totally different radio guts.
If Apple wants to put the iPhone on the Verizon network after AT&T's exclusivity deal expires, they're going to have to do one of two things. Either they'll have to have two different iPhones ? a GSM one for the world, and a CDMA one just for Verizon and Sprint ? or they'll have to have one iPhone with both GSM and CDMA hardware in it.
Both options suck. Right now, supporting both GSM and CDMA is impractical, because you'd have to physically cram more guts into the iPhone. There've been rumors of dual-standard chips and antennas from chip makers like Qualcomm, but they're just rumors right now; I don't think there are any shipping dual-standard chips for Apple to use.
On the other hand, having a CDMA iPhone and a GSM iPhone would be doable, but inefficient. Say you buy a CDMA iPhone tomorrow and sign up with Verizon. Later you decide to move to London. You can't just transfer your mobile service to O2 and go on with your life. You either have to buy a separate GSM iPhone, or go through a "side-grade" process with Apple if one is in place. Even if the side-grade is just going to an Apple store and handing in your one-standard iPhone and walking out with an other-standard iPhone, it's still overhead for Apple. It stinks.
The right answer, of course, is a dual-standard iPhone. One model, with one set of guts, that can be sold and will work anywhere in the world, on either GSM or CDMA. This makes business sense not just in the US, where AT&T and Verizon split the lion's share of mobile subscribers almost 50/50, but even more so in China where CDMA is going strong and the market is much, much larger overall.
But the technology's just not there yet.
I'm no wireless expert, by far. But if you made me place a bet, I'd say the odds are 60 percent there will be a new iPhone in late June/early July, but that it will still be GSM-only. It may be carrier unlocked, so it can work on T-Mobile and the thousand and one regional GSM networks in the US, but it won't be dual-standard. I give it a 40 percent chance that Apple will break their three-year tradition and not release a new iPhone this summer at all, just new software for all iPhones.
But I'd say the odds are very high ? virtually certain ? that there will be a dual-standard iPhone in 2011, maybe as early as the first quarter. Apple just has to wait for the chip manufacturers to get their technology working and shipping on a large scale.
But what do I know. I'm just a guy on the Internet.
Baloney. I have an iPhone and I'm not getting another one. No matter how much koolaid I ingest, I can't justify a smart phone that can't make phone calls.
I'll be first in line when apple partners with a provider that has coverage where I live and work.