Apparently you haven't had enough coffee today......they presumably tested it with their Airport Extreme base stations, and yet some people having problems are using those presumably tested routers.
Are you kidding, I haven't had any coffee in weeks. But seriously, I've got a friend who has an iPad and an Airport Extreme base station and his setup works fine. There's just to little info so far to make any determinations. Perhaps the reality distortion field is having and effect on the WiFi signals in those instances.
I'm sure it exists. WiFi issues exist with all products. From this limited information it sounds like a driver or OS issue, not HW. I'd curious about the 3G version with the plastic stripe. I stated last week that I would expect a little better WiFI with that model.
Damn, beaten to it. I was about to say something similar, thinking that the all-aluminum iPad would have worse signal reception than the 3G iPad with that plastic strip.
It appears that not all of the people are having the problem but enough are to lead one to suspect that some of the iPads could have problems with their Wi-Fi units. Does any one have any knowledge whether the iPad's Wi-Fi unit and components were all from the same supplier/manufacturer? If there are different suppliers, then Apple needs to determine which of the supplier's units that are causing the problem. We know that Apple's screen manufacturer had problems delivering the quota that Apple needed to get the iPad out on schedule. If there was only one manufacturer using the same components then there could be something in the way it was put together.
Also curious whether the problems are with only with the 16 or 32 or 63 GB models or is random across the spectrum? To be sure those having problems should be talking to Apple and let us know what's up.
We know that Apple's screen manufacturer had problems delivering the quota that Apple needed to get the iPad out on schedule.
I wasn't aware that this was ever confirmed.
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Also curious whether the problems are with only with the 16 or 32 or 63 GB models or is random across the spectrum? To be sure those having problems should be talking to Apple and let us know what's up.
By the way, is it true or bot that a jail broken phone with 3G fooler that makes 3G think it's wifi or with teethering, that you could, in theory, connect a wifi ipad via you iPhone?
Damn, beaten to it. I was about to say something similar, thinking that the all-aluminum iPad would have worse signal reception than the 3G iPad with that plastic strip.
Can we have a volunteer to test out this hypothesis--Dremel tool please and a plastic strip
If it were a design flaw such as this, you'd expect that most all of the iPads would be having the problem.
Not quite the confirmation I was thinking. I saw these articles as well and they didn't seem quite definitive enough (not that we would get anything more definitive than this).
I bet of these "problems" are networks with MAC address protection on them. The internet is always full of people that no idea about basic networking, wireless or wired. When you ask them about what security and frequency they are running, they have no idea.
To resolve the issue, Apple recommends creating separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band, such as adding G to the 802.11g network name, and N to the 802.11n network name.
There's a "no DUH" moment if I saw one. I have had no issues with my dual band extreme, an old g only UFO base station and about five other wifi networks in various other public places like restaurants.
Also until reading the iFixit article I didn't realize the apple logo was plastic and where the wifi antennas are. I wonder how many have cases on their ipad thad have metal near the apple logo...
Do you believe that the problem is nonexistent, or that it is restricted to certain iPads, with others (like yours) working properly?
I believe that wireless is a pretty complicated technology with numerous factors that can affect it and that without a lot more detail than "my wifi cuts out" speculation about the root cause and whether it's a systemic design issue, user error or something in between is pretty fruitless.
Having said that it won't stop such speculation, nor the inevitable apple is stupid/apple is doomed comments. It's the way of the Internet
Hmm - no obvious way to get a copyright symbol on the virtual keyboard. I did discover some other interesting symbols as I held various keys down while looking.
Good to see they've released yet another product without doing adequate testing...
There is never "adequate testing" when users are involved. The technology is way complex with thousands of permutations.
Not that I'm calling anyone a fool, but it is best exemplified by the old saying "the problem with making things foolproof is fools are so darned ingenious!"
Not quite the confirmation I was thinking. I saw these articles as well and they didn't seem quite definitive enough (not that we would get anything more definitive than this).
I noticed the demo iPad in my local Apple Store would drop to 1 bar of wifi signal frequently.
Hmm - I wonder if some units could have something as simple as the antenna wire for the wifi off or loose. It's been seen as an issue with the bluetooth module in some Mac Pro's and antennas have been hooked up wrong in the dual band airport extremes (excellent article about that on smallnetbuilder.com)
I guess the bottom line is such performance is not normal so make an appointment and take it in!
I don't suggest they open every box. I'm saying if there is a design flaw in this device that causes it to not work as well as it could/should, then the device functionality/design should have been tested before it was produced, boxed, and shipped to stores
Isn't it a little premature (day three for crying out loud!) to be going down the "design flaw" path? Too many (myself included) have had NO issues for it to be a systemic design flaw.
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Apparently you haven't had enough coffee today......they presumably tested it with their Airport Extreme base stations, and yet some people having problems are using those presumably tested routers.
Are you kidding, I haven't had any coffee in weeks.
I'm sure it exists. WiFi issues exist with all products. From this limited information it sounds like a driver or OS issue, not HW. I'd curious about the 3G version with the plastic stripe. I stated last week that I would expect a little better WiFI with that model.
Damn, beaten to it. I was about to say something similar, thinking that the all-aluminum iPad would have worse signal reception than the 3G iPad with that plastic strip.
Also curious whether the problems are with only with the 16 or 32 or 63 GB models or is random across the spectrum? To be sure those having problems should be talking to Apple and let us know what's up.
We know that Apple's screen manufacturer had problems delivering the quota that Apple needed to get the iPad out on schedule.
I wasn't aware that this was ever confirmed.
Also curious whether the problems are with only with the 16 or 32 or 63 GB models or is random across the spectrum? To be sure those having problems should be talking to Apple and let us know what's up.
Cool, a 63 GB model.
Thanks.
I wasn't aware that this was ever confirmed.
Delays Cause Apple to Switch iPad Touch-Panel Orders@
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...to_wintek.html
Samsung $240M Deal@
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._displays.html
Cool, a 63 GB model.
Dropped 1GB somewhere on the floor.
Damn, beaten to it. I was about to say something similar, thinking that the all-aluminum iPad would have worse signal reception than the 3G iPad with that plastic strip.
Can we have a volunteer to test out this hypothesis--Dremel tool please and a plastic strip
If it were a design flaw such as this, you'd expect that most all of the iPads would be having the problem.
Delays Cause Apple to Switch iPad Touch-Panel Orders@
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles...to_wintek.html
Samsung $240M Deal@
http://www.appleinsider.com/articles..._displays.html
Not quite the confirmation I was thinking. I saw these articles as well and they didn't seem quite definitive enough (not that we would get anything more definitive than this).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeDalRBjyJo
To resolve the issue, Apple recommends creating separate Wi-Fi network names to identify each band, such as adding G to the 802.11g network name, and N to the 802.11n network name.
There's a "no DUH" moment if I saw one. I have had no issues with my dual band extreme, an old g only UFO base station and about five other wifi networks in various other public places like restaurants.
Also until reading the iFixit article I didn't realize the apple logo was plastic and where the wifi antennas are. I wonder how many have cases on their ipad thad have metal near the apple logo...
Do you believe that the problem is nonexistent, or that it is restricted to certain iPads, with others (like yours) working properly?
I believe that wireless is a pretty complicated technology with numerous factors that can affect it and that without a lot more detail than "my wifi cuts out" speculation about the root cause and whether it's a systemic design issue, user error or something in between is pretty fruitless.
Having said that it won't stop such speculation, nor the inevitable apple is stupid/apple is doomed comments. It's the way of the Internet
Hmm - no obvious way to get a copyright symbol on the virtual keyboard. I did discover some other interesting symbols as I held various keys down while looking.
Good to see they've released yet another product without doing adequate testing...
There is never "adequate testing" when users are involved. The technology is way complex with thousands of permutations.
Not that I'm calling anyone a fool, but it is best exemplified by the old saying "the problem with making things foolproof is fools are so darned ingenious!"
Not quite the confirmation I was thinking. I saw these articles as well and they didn't seem quite definitive enough (not that we would get anything more definitive than this).
Try DigiTimes @ http://www.digitimes.com/tag/tpk_tou...s/0016201.html
Not a paid subscriber so good luck.
I noticed the demo iPad in my local Apple Store would drop to 1 bar of wifi signal frequently.
Hmm - I wonder if some units could have something as simple as the antenna wire for the wifi off or loose. It's been seen as an issue with the bluetooth module in some Mac Pro's and antennas have been hooked up wrong in the dual band airport extremes (excellent article about that on smallnetbuilder.com)
I guess the bottom line is such performance is not normal so make an appointment and take it in!
I don't suggest they open every box. I'm saying if there is a design flaw in this device that causes it to not work as well as it could/should, then the device functionality/design should have been tested before it was produced, boxed, and shipped to stores
Isn't it a little premature (day three for crying out loud!) to be going down the "design flaw" path? Too many (myself included) have had NO issues for it to be a systemic design flaw.
smart-ass.
Indeed
Sheesh! Reading some of the comments here! As far as I'm concerned it's a minor miracle that any of these things work at all....
Agreed, good post. Besides, it'd be something else if the glitches were known defects that the mfg. tries to hide.
smart-ass.
Yeah. Well, solipsism is rather smart.
But the second part? That's all you.