Thanks but why would that be better than a MacBook 13" that runs flawlessly, no need for Kaspersky et al and all the associated problems? Is it simply price? Two inches hardly matters (no jokes please). If it is price you can get great MacBooks second hand that still run Leopard and some Snow Leopard. Heck I still have a base model iBook G4 12" that runs Leopard fine.
Nobody ever said that would be better than a Macbook 13. What the heck?
Its far less then ideal and its a safe bet that next to no one uses these devices as standalone. I thought buying an Apple product was to make your life easier yet to try and prove your false point you want to go around the world to make life harder.
Someone is going to spend money on music, software, Apps, ebooks and not back them up? Are you serious?
Sheesh, what a bunch of maroons. (i) If making a call was so darn important, why the heck couldn't/didn't they wait for the 3G version? (They can still return the wifi only). (ii) If Flash was so darn important, why the heck did they buy an iPad in the first place!? Did they they think that somehow, it would magically be Flash-enabled upon purchase?
An interesting point: What defines a netbook? Is it a display size smaller than x inches, less than a standard sized keyboard, running an Atom CPU or something else altogether.
The marketing department at each manufacturer defines "netbook". The category is fuzzy, without clear demarcation.
That is one big reason why making blanket statements about generic "netbooks" is just plain foolish.
Yes, laptops have full sized keyboards. And better netbooks have good keyboards.
Am I missing your point? Do you have a point? Or are you just Trolling?
The term netbook is a fairly general term these days. They have changed a good bit since they came out a few years ago.
These days you can get a "netbook" with up to an 11 inch screen, 250gb harddrive a 1.83 ghz processor running a full version of Windows 7.
So I am not sure netbooks are really just netbooks anymore they have simply moved into lower price notebooks. With some netbooks the only real weak point is the GPU if they start to upgrade the GPU you really have just a lower priced notebook. The gap is certainly closing.
Netbooks are also getting more expensive. You can now pay 400.00 for one if someone wanted one like I listed above. So its a fast changing catagory which is often the case with technology.
I can't comment on the Dell units but I can categorically say that the Asus unit I have is a stinking pile of sh*t - the device is basically unusable other than for browsing the web or simple emails - if I happen to browse to a web page with flash you can literally see the damn thing crawl to a halt and the battery drain.
Too bad you made a poor choice. Many modern netbooks are very nice.
Come on fanboy live up to your definition. Instead of changing the subject tell me why Apple lists other hardware as a requirement for the iPad if its a standalone device. If you can't then simply go away.
Come on fanboy live up to your definition. Instead of changing the subject tell me why Apple lists other hardware as a requirement for the iPad if its a standalone device. If you can't then simply go away.
You claimed it can't be used as a standalone device. You are clearly wrong. There's no possibility of arguing your way out of that.
It's unrealistic, but if you carry any kind of briefcase, backpack, purse (man or otherwise) or whatever, and use a BT headset, it could work pretty well as a phone. Some headsets work pretty well with iPhones, I could walk two rooms away and still have a conversation or listen to music as clearly as standing next to it. The problem is that I couldn't find one without a major drawback, one didn't want to charge consistently, another didn't fit well, one worked great as a phone headset but poorly on A2DP, one did great on A2DP but poorly as a headset, etc.
It is true because you need another system to use an iPad. Its not a standalone device. Like the iPods, Touch and iPhone the iPad needs to work with iTunes. The first thing you need to do with any of these devices when you turn them on for the first time is connect them with iTunes.
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Its far less then ideal and its a safe bet that next to no one uses these devices as standalone. I thought buying an Apple product was to make your life easier yet to try and prove your false point you want to go around the world to make life harder. .
You really would be far better off if you learned something about the iPad before commenting on it.
Lots of people use their iPhones without syncing it with a computer; the iPad will work the same way. I don't know the percentage, but it's clearly quite possible. In fact, when you read about some of the stories of people who purchased an iPad as their first (and only) computer, it's very real.
You can do a great deal with the iPad without every syncing it with a computer:
- Internet acces
- eMail
- Transfer photos from a digital camera
- Edit photos
- Create and share documents (word processing, spreadsheet, presentations)
- Purchase and listen to music via the iTunes store
- Purchase and watch TV shows and movies
- Purchase and read e-books
There is absolutely no reason why that wouldn't meet the needs of a lot of people. Just as important, it clearly disproves your continued assertions that a separate computer is necessary.
You claimed it can't be used as a standalone device. You are clearly wrong. There's no possibility of arguing your way out of that.
If he had just stated that you need to plug it into a PC the first time you start it up or that Apple has designed it as an accessory device to people's PCs the way netbooks are typically utilized, though not required to be utilized, it would have made sense. Instead he's just spinning hyperbole and BS and picking fights with the decent posters here just to later claim he was picked on when he gets his ass schooled. I suggest just add him to your ignore list. It seems the only way to deal with these asshats is to ignore them, as inelegant as a solution as it is.
If he said it can't be used as a hammer, his statement would be equally wrong.
And your quibbles would be equally trivial.
Not equal at all.
It is implausible that one would use an iPad as a hammer. It is quite plausible that one would buy an iPad as their sole computer and not sync it with another computer. Read some of the early reviews - quite a few people talked about buying an iPad as their first (and only) computer.
If he said it can't be used as a hammer, his statement would be equally wrong.
And your quibbles would be equally trivial.
It's nice to see the trolls back each other up, bonding and all that. Very sweet of you.
However, since using it as a hammer would, for example, damage it and using it as a standalone device would not, your assertion that he'd be equally wrong is mistaken.
If he had just stated that you need to plug it into a PC the first time you start it up or that Apple has designed it as an accessory device to people's PCs the way netbooks are typically utilized, though not required to be utilized, it would have made sense. Instead he's just spinning hyperbole and BS and picking fights with the decent posters here just to later claim he was picked on when he gets his ass schooled. I suggest just add him to your ignore list. It seems the only way to deal with these asshats is to ignore them, as inelegant as a solution as it is.
I suggest that the conversation be limited to the topic at hand, rather than being an insult-fest directed towards people you disagree with.
Yes, laptops have full sized keyboards. And better netbooks have good keyboards.
Am I missing your point? Do you have a point? Or are you just Trolling?
Troll? Hell no... fanboy, maybe.
Seriously, You said something like "NetBooks with keyboards 93% normal size and even bigger", And my reply is "What is the point of a NetBook if it's not that smaller? What makes it so different from a Laptop?"
The answer is, IMHO, is that a keyboard too big is not portable and a keyboard too small is no good to use. Then, One Day, someone decided to innovate and do away with the keyboard altogether, or at least have it occasionally share space with the screen.
That is my point. And that's the point of many people NOT getting a netbook and getting either a Laptop OR an iPad, each having its pros and not being something "just in between".
In any case I think you overreacted to a simple joke. Go get your netBook and be happy.
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Thanks but why would that be better than a MacBook 13" that runs flawlessly, no need for Kaspersky et al and all the associated problems? Is it simply price? Two inches hardly matters (no jokes please). If it is price you can get great MacBooks second hand that still run Leopard and some Snow Leopard. Heck I still have a base model iBook G4 12" that runs Leopard fine.
Nobody ever said that would be better than a Macbook 13. What the heck?
We Know. They're called "LAPTOPS"
What sort of a silly Troll is this?
Yes, laptops have full sized keyboards. And better netbooks have good keyboards.
Am I missing your point? Do you have a point? Or are you just Trolling?
Its far less then ideal and its a safe bet that next to no one uses these devices as standalone. I thought buying an Apple product was to make your life easier yet to try and prove your false point you want to go around the world to make life harder.
Someone is going to spend money on music, software, Apps, ebooks and not back them up? Are you serious?
Here lets end this one and for all.
Directly from Apple.
iPad system requirements
Mac system requirements
Mac computer with USB 2.0 port
Mac OS X v10.5.8 or later
iTunes 9.1 or later (free download from www.itunes.com/download)
iTunes Store account
Internet access
PC with USB 2.0 port Windows 7; Windows Vista; or Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 3 or later
iTunes 9.1 or later (free download from www.itunes.com/download)
iTunes Store account
Internet access
Clearly Apple "you know the iPad vendor" does not see the iPad as a standalone device.
Type all you want, but you're still wrong to say it can't be used as such.
Here this should be good enough. Like all technology take note of the term 'rapidly evolving".
Sort of like your arguments.
Twits.
An interesting point: What defines a netbook? Is it a display size smaller than x inches, less than a standard sized keyboard, running an Atom CPU or something else altogether.
The marketing department at each manufacturer defines "netbook". The category is fuzzy, without clear demarcation.
That is one big reason why making blanket statements about generic "netbooks" is just plain foolish.
What sort of a silly Troll is this?
Yes, laptops have full sized keyboards. And better netbooks have good keyboards.
Am I missing your point? Do you have a point? Or are you just Trolling?
The term netbook is a fairly general term these days. They have changed a good bit since they came out a few years ago.
These days you can get a "netbook" with up to an 11 inch screen, 250gb harddrive a 1.83 ghz processor running a full version of Windows 7.
So I am not sure netbooks are really just netbooks anymore they have simply moved into lower price notebooks. With some netbooks the only real weak point is the GPU if they start to upgrade the GPU you really have just a lower priced notebook. The gap is certainly closing.
Netbooks are also getting more expensive. You can now pay 400.00 for one if someone wanted one like I listed above. So its a fast changing catagory which is often the case with technology.
I can't comment on the Dell units but I can categorically say that the Asus unit I have is a stinking pile of sh*t - the device is basically unusable other than for browsing the web or simple emails - if I happen to browse to a web page with flash you can literally see the damn thing crawl to a halt and the battery drain.
Too bad you made a poor choice. Many modern netbooks are very nice.
Sort of like your arguments.
Come on fanboy live up to your definition. Instead of changing the subject tell me why Apple lists other hardware as a requirement for the iPad if its a standalone device. If you can't then simply go away.
Come on fanboy live up to your definition. Instead of changing the subject tell me why Apple lists other hardware as a requirement for the iPad if its a standalone device. If you can't then simply go away.
You claimed it can't be used as a standalone device. You are clearly wrong. There's no possibility of arguing your way out of that.
You claimed it can't be used as a standalone device. You are clearly wrong. There's no possibility of arguing your way out of that.
If he said it can't be used as a hammer, his statement would be equally wrong.
And your quibbles would be equally trivial.
It is true because you need another system to use an iPad. Its not a standalone device. Like the iPods, Touch and iPhone the iPad needs to work with iTunes. The first thing you need to do with any of these devices when you turn them on for the first time is connect them with iTunes.
Its far less then ideal and its a safe bet that next to no one uses these devices as standalone. I thought buying an Apple product was to make your life easier yet to try and prove your false point you want to go around the world to make life harder. .
You really would be far better off if you learned something about the iPad before commenting on it.
Lots of people use their iPhones without syncing it with a computer; the iPad will work the same way. I don't know the percentage, but it's clearly quite possible. In fact, when you read about some of the stories of people who purchased an iPad as their first (and only) computer, it's very real.
You can do a great deal with the iPad without every syncing it with a computer:
- Internet acces
- eMail
- Transfer photos from a digital camera
- Edit photos
- Create and share documents (word processing, spreadsheet, presentations)
- Purchase and listen to music via the iTunes store
- Purchase and watch TV shows and movies
- Purchase and read e-books
There is absolutely no reason why that wouldn't meet the needs of a lot of people. Just as important, it clearly disproves your continued assertions that a separate computer is necessary.
You claimed it can't be used as a standalone device. You are clearly wrong. There's no possibility of arguing your way out of that.
If he had just stated that you need to plug it into a PC the first time you start it up or that Apple has designed it as an accessory device to people's PCs the way netbooks are typically utilized, though not required to be utilized, it would have made sense. Instead he's just spinning hyperbole and BS and picking fights with the decent posters here just to later claim he was picked on when he gets his ass schooled. I suggest just add him to your ignore list. It seems the only way to deal with these asshats is to ignore them, as inelegant as a solution as it is.
If he said it can't be used as a hammer, his statement would be equally wrong.
And your quibbles would be equally trivial.
Not equal at all.
It is implausible that one would use an iPad as a hammer. It is quite plausible that one would buy an iPad as their sole computer and not sync it with another computer. Read some of the early reviews - quite a few people talked about buying an iPad as their first (and only) computer.
If he said it can't be used as a hammer, his statement would be equally wrong.
And your quibbles would be equally trivial.
It's nice to see the trolls back each other up, bonding and all that. Very sweet of you.
However, since using it as a hammer would, for example, damage it and using it as a standalone device would not, your assertion that he'd be equally wrong is mistaken.
And a netbook.
ummmm no. The iPad does NOT replace a netbook.
One of the reasons why it's not for me.
If he had just stated that you need to plug it into a PC the first time you start it up or that Apple has designed it as an accessory device to people's PCs the way netbooks are typically utilized, though not required to be utilized, it would have made sense. Instead he's just spinning hyperbole and BS and picking fights with the decent posters here just to later claim he was picked on when he gets his ass schooled. I suggest just add him to your ignore list. It seems the only way to deal with these asshats is to ignore them, as inelegant as a solution as it is.
I suggest that the conversation be limited to the topic at hand, rather than being an insult-fest directed towards people you disagree with.
What sort of a silly Troll is this?
Yes, laptops have full sized keyboards. And better netbooks have good keyboards.
Am I missing your point? Do you have a point? Or are you just Trolling?
Troll? Hell no...
Seriously, You said something like "NetBooks with keyboards 93% normal size and even bigger", And my reply is "What is the point of a NetBook if it's not that smaller? What makes it so different from a Laptop?"
The answer is, IMHO, is that a keyboard too big is not portable and a keyboard too small is no good to use. Then, One Day, someone decided to innovate and do away with the keyboard altogether, or at least have it occasionally share space with the screen.
That is my point. And that's the point of many people NOT getting a netbook and getting either a Laptop OR an iPad, each having its pros and not being something "just in between".
In any case I think you overreacted to a simple joke. Go get your netBook and be happy.
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