AT&T caps new iPhone, iPad data plans at 2GB, announces tethering

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  • Reply 61 of 359
    wurm5150wurm5150 Posts: 763member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mountaingrub View Post


    These aren't knee-jerk reactions TenoBell. People put up with AT$T's garbage phone service so that they can get one positive thing, and that is unlimited data. Stop being an apologist. As someone who has spent tens of thousands or more on Apple products and media since the late 80's this sure does piss me off. I don't believe Apple thinks they can jerk around their customers like this. And yeah I do use way more than 2GB a month, I am sure of that, I download tons of stuff over 3G. It is bad enough that they are charging for tethering when it was free at one point in previous firmware, now they are tacking on all types of different fees, and of course this won't help with the multitude of dropped calls. Go ahead and defend Apple and ATT - you are alone on this one.



    Dude, he's not alone on this.. 98% of smartphone users use less than 2GB. So you should say there's only 2% of you who are pissed off (is a more appropriate statement).
  • Reply 62 of 359
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    You get to keep your unlimited data plan.



    I don't understand why you are on 3G that much. WiFi is everywhere.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mountaingrub View Post


    These aren't knee-jerk reactions TenoBell. People put up with AT$T's garbage phone service so that they can get one positive thing, and that is unlimited data. Stop being an apologist. As someone who has spent tens of thousands or more on Apple products and media since the late 80's this sure does piss me off. I don't believe Apple thinks they can jerk around their customers like this. And yeah I do use way more than 2GB a month, I am sure of that, I download tons of stuff over 3G. It is bad enough that they are charging for tethering when it was free at one point in previous firmware, now they are tacking on all types of different fees, and of course this won't help with the multitude of dropped calls. Go ahead and defend Apple and ATT - you are alone on this one.



  • Reply 63 of 359
    walshbjwalshbj Posts: 864member
    I just posted a poll, asking how much bandwidth y'all use. Obviously AppleInsider readers aren't the same as the general population, but I'm still interested.



    Here's a link to the poll.
  • Reply 64 of 359
    jetlawjetlaw Posts: 156member
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    I don't understand why so many people are bent out of shape about this. If the new plans aren't for you then stay with what you have. If you're a light user, switch. My wife uses 350mb a month, I use about 1.5gb. I'm not switching but I might switch her to 2gb.





    At&t has been promising that "tethering is coming." Now that tethering has been announced, it is accompanied by a reduction in allowable usage that will seriously undermine the utility of the service.



    The comment that 65% of customers will benefit from this is illusory because 100% of customers will have to pay more if they want to tether, and 100% of those customers that are paying more are now encumbered with a new limitation on their service.



    It does not appear to me from the OP that there is an option to stay with the current $30/month plan and add tethering. If I am reading that wrong then I guess it could be worse, but it is still bullshit, because if at&t is distinguishing their price plans based on bandwidth usage, then device selection should be irrelevant.



    How hard would it be to simply have a per megabyte or per gigabyte option? That would completely obviate the need to distinguish between direct usage and usage by tethered devices.



    Paying more to get less = customers getting "bent out of shape."
  • Reply 65 of 359
    wurm5150wurm5150 Posts: 763member
    AT&T has replied on their Facebook page indicating that current customers may keep the $30/month unlimited plan even when they upgrade to a new iPhone:



    "The good news for current customers who love their unlimited plan is this: they are not required to switch, even when it's time to upgrade to a new phone. So you are welcome to keep your unlimited plan "



    SO THERE YOU GO! You can stop b!tching now.



    FOR iPAD 3G USERS.. Sorry!
  • Reply 66 of 359
    ghostface147ghostface147 Posts: 1,629member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mountaingrub View Post


    It is bad enough that they are charging for tethering when it was free at one point in previous firmware, now they are tacking on all types of different fees, and of course this won't help with the multitude of dropped calls. Go ahead and defend Apple and ATT - you are alone on this one.



    He's not alone. There are plenty of satisfied ATT/Apple users. If you bothered to read, there are also others on these forums who are happy with their service. Also, when did ATT ever allow free tethering? Never. Previous firmwares and the current firmware allow it, but it's not free and was never enabled here in the US. Bottom line, you don't speak for anyone but yourself. Others may agree with your, others won't, but you don't speak for them. And no, I don't work for Apple or ATT. I work for a homebuilder. Wanna buy a home?
  • Reply 67 of 359
    tenobelltenobell Posts: 7,014member
    You know your complaint and implication were that AT&T was going to raise the price of unlimited data. Why would you complain about AT&T lowering the cost for 98% of it's customers?



    The other part of your speculation AT&T did not follow Verizon on this move. Verizon will follow AT&T.





    Quote:
    Originally Posted by trumptman View Post


    Someday when I decide I actually want to try drugs, I want to buy them from whoever is selling them to you.



    Funny, but I don't read the word unlimited in there even once.....I said they would raise data rates, and they have.



    In the meantime, hook people up with whoever is selling you such good crap.



  • Reply 68 of 359
    ghostface147ghostface147 Posts: 1,629member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    AT&T has replied on their Facebook page indicating that current customers may keep the $30/month unlimited plan even when they upgrade to a new iPhone:



    "The good news for current customers who love their unlimited plan is this: they are not required to switch, even when it's time to upgrade to a new phone. So you are welcome to keep your unlimited plan "



    SO THERE YOU GO! You can stop b!tching now.



    FOR iPAD 3G USERS.. Sorry!



    UNLESS, you want tethering. Then you must change plans.
  • Reply 69 of 359
    walshbjwalshbj Posts: 864member
    I wonder how much bandwidth the typical iAd will require...
  • Reply 70 of 359
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    The point really shouldn't be how much data you use now because as always, the technology drives the data use. How much data did you all use before the introduction of the 3G or 3GS?



    Sure many of you might have been using say, 1 gig of data before, but those were on phones that didn't have video chat, that didn't allow backgrounding of Pandora, etc.



    The reality is that when all the folks on here were using Palms, or Razrs, or whatever they had before the iPhone, they were probably lucky if they used 50 MB of data a month let alone 500 MB. The iPhone changed that past use and it is likely the new one will change it yet again. Now Apple is going to intro a new phone with many new cloud and data intensive features and the plans that allowed best use of it are going to be gone and in their place will be much more expensive plans per gigabyte.
  • Reply 71 of 359
    svnippsvnipp Posts: 430member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post


    So even if you pay the extra money for tethering you are STILL limited to 2 GB? The extra $20/month should get me more bandwidth, too!!



    So let's see all the ATT apologetics who complained about Verizon's 5 GB cap chime in. 2 GB is crap, especially if you are downloading apps or media. And everyone who said the iPad data plan pricing was evidence of Apple sticking with ATT as the sole provider (due to it's low pricing), how long did that last?



    I understand a lot of the complaints, but are you seriously downloading apps and media via 3G? I listen to streaming radio all the time, and in fact that's why as of right now I'm at 800MB on day 14 of the month on my service. ATT limits app download size to 20MB anyway, I very rarely download any apps unless I'm on Wifi and the data plan is specific to 3G. Even if it were possible, I definitely wouldn't want to download any large apps on 3G.
  • Reply 72 of 359
    jerseymacjerseymac Posts: 408member
    I keep missing he point. The iPhone's killer app is supposed to be making calls and that is what it is the worst at. The iPad's killer app is the internet and it can't see a large portion of the internet that uses the evil Flash.



    Now AT&T is charging extra for data and tethering at a time when, according to Apple, the world is moving from the desktop to cloud computing and everything is going to be on the internet.



    Okay, actually I do get the point. AT&T is positioning itself to make a lot of money. What I don't get is why this is a good thing for consumers. \
  • Reply 73 of 359
    masternavmasternav Posts: 442member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 1966goat View Post


    You know, its funny. My kindle still has free internet access wherever I go....



    Cool! say, can you flip me that last doc you created on your Kindle?



    Wait...what?? You didn't and you can't?



    OK - well, never mind then.
  • Reply 74 of 359
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wurm5150 View Post


    Dude, he's not alone on this.. 98% of smartphone users use less than 2GB. So you should say there's only 2% of you who are pissed off (is a more appropriate statement).



    And some subset of the other 98% is pissed off at the 2%, because they are the reason that tethering has taken so long to show up. Let's face it, the only way we were ever going to get iPhone tethering was if there were data plan limits. As Teh Steve said last night on the Rupert Murdock Show (er, I mean, D8), AT&T pumps way more data traffic across their 3G network than the other wireless carriers combined.



    There is always the other option for tethering, which is the Sprint 3G/4G Overdrive but their unlimited data plan only applies to 4G data access (which is nowhere to be found except in a few key cities).
  • Reply 75 of 359
    benroethigbenroethig Posts: 2,782member
    A couple thoughts



    Tethering: Lets see here let's the better deal, $20 for tethering and sharing your iPhone's 2G or $25+ a couple bucks in tax to let your Macbook have its own data plan?



    $15 data plus plan: Its a really crappy deal with for what they're charging (500mb would be more acceptable) but think of it this way, users who were put off by the $30 data plan might be more inclined to bite at $15.
  • Reply 76 of 359
    hezetationhezetation Posts: 674member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wiggin View Post


    So even if you pay the extra money for tethering you are STILL limited to 2 GB? The extra $20/month should get me more bandwidth, too!!



    So let's see all the ATT apologetics who complained about Verizon's 5 GB cap chime in. 2 GB is crap, especially if you are downloading apps or media. And everyone who said the iPad data plan pricing was evidence of Apple sticking with ATT as the sole provider (due to it's low pricing), how long did that last?



    Now more than ever we need another carrier in the US to get the iPhone and iPad to provide some competition (and relieve the strain on ATTs network).



    "For customers who exceed the cap, an extra 1GB in the DataPro plan costs $10, and an extra 200MB in the DataPlus plan runs $15."



    Are you freakin' kidding me! That's borderline blackmail to get you to go for the more expensive plan. Verizon's $60/month mifi card is looking pretty attractive right now. Too bad you can't get an iPhone without a data plan. Maybe pair the mifi with a touch and dump ATT altogether.



    Agreed, if the $20 doesn't give me additional data then what is AT&T providing me? Allowing me to share my phone's data is a hardware solution only if it doesn't come with additional data.
  • Reply 77 of 359
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    Couple of Points:



    1. What kind of tethering? If it's only USB/Bluetooth then it's worthless. WiFi tethering is the only worthwhile way to go, and I have no plans to stop my iPhone from doing so.



    2. $15/200 mb is good, but not good enough. For people new to iPhone, who are leery about the extreme cost (given that they barely use data at all), this 200 mb a month should be FREE. That's right it should. Free. If you exceed the first 200 mb, then AT&T can charge you $15 for 200 more for the month. THIS would be useful for attracting all those 50 and 60 year olds who would love a phone they could actually see (nothing compares to iPhone) and could actually justify the cost.



    3. 2 gb/$25 is extortion, borderline criminal. This is going backwards, and its the worst news we have ever received in the life of the iPhone.



    4. Thank God AT&T is not going to screw existing customers out of their Unlimited plans (at least not this year, be prepared for it to happen though!).
  • Reply 78 of 359
    trumptmantrumptman Posts: 16,464member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    You know your complaint and implication were that AT&T was going to raise the price of unlimited data. Why would you complain about AT&T lowering the cost for 98% of it's customers?



    The other part of your speculation AT&T did not follow Verizon on this move. Verizon will follow AT&T.



    I know exactly what I meant and that was that via some means, the new iPhone would be less affordable than the current one. I didn't claim to have the ONE answer, just validity in speculating. You on the other hand did claim to have the one answer, and declared AT&T would change nothing before the arrival of LTE.



    A point on which you were completely and totally wrong I should add.



    So whether it was tiered data, more expensive unlimited data, or an add on fee for video chat, my point was that I wanted to wait and see what AT&T would do before the iPhone drops because based off the rising ETF fee, it is clear their direction was changing.



    Some here are noting their current use. Others are catching on though and realizing, video chat, iAds, networked gaming, etc. it is all multiplying use and now that use is going to be more expensive.
  • Reply 79 of 359
    I'll be saving a lot of money for the 3 iPhones on my account.



    Let the data hogs pay for what they use.



    Why is everyone complaining? These are all OPTIONs! Options are good.
  • Reply 80 of 359
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Lemmywinks View Post


    I don't understand why so many people are bent out of shape about this. If the new plans aren't for you then stay with what you have. If you're a light user, switch. My wife uses 350mb a month, I use about 1.5gb. I'm not switching but I might switch her to 2gb.



    because people WANT tethering. I switched to sprint for 4G with tethering all for cheaper than my current AT&T bill. Screw AT&T. Always ALWAYS hated them.
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