Native iPad app library passes 10,000 milestone

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  • Reply 21 of 141
    ochymingochyming Posts: 474member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    The vast majority of ipad apps are sad.



    I think most developers want quick money?

    I wonder how many first attempt developers are in the boat?





    Perhaps it mirrors your society.
  • Reply 22 of 141
    eyez73eyez73 Posts: 4member
    Can anyone recommend any good websites to find the best ones? As people have said before iTunes is a waste of time look for good stuff.



    Thanks !
  • Reply 23 of 141
    reganregan Posts: 474member
    I'm really loving my 3G iPad. It really is so much more enjoyable to surf the web on compared to an iPhone or iPod touch. I only use the 3G in emergencies, but it does come in handy in a pinch, and is so much easier to carry than lugging around my laptop.



    I also love the environmental aspects of using it to read books on. I'll never buy another paperback again. It's truly a pleasure to read on. Being an artist, I've also begun to use my iPad in place of a sketchbook, and so far it too has worked out beautifully for me. Sketching digitally takes some getting used to, but with a stylus pen, the learning curve is not long. Plus it saves a lot of money and trees!



    Having said all that, I am surprised that some of the big iPhone/touch apps have not been optimized for the iPad yet. Using iPhone versions blown up 2X is just not the same.



    Where is the native Skype and yahoo messenger for the iPad? Come on guys! Chop. Chop.



    Speaking of yahoo messenger, when the heck are they gonna add voice in and voice out on their iPhone and touch apps? Hopefully in the eventual iPad app.



    Anyway, there are so many more apps that need to be ported to the iPad asap. Too numerous to mention. But so far, I am digging my iPad tremendously. It's not just a toy or status thing...it's fast becoming my favorite tool to use on the road to stay connected with, and YES, even create with.



    I do agree with one of the posters who said charging moor for the iPad apps is kinda lame from some of the vendors....but I think as more apps become available, and the competition for eyeballs and dollars increases, the prices will come down. There ain't no reason to charge twice as much for an iPad app just because it's bigger.



    Peace out.
  • Reply 24 of 141
    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    The vast majority of ipad apps are sad.



    I would have to agree but begrudgingly. This is the first generation of apps. They will get better. There are a few high quality apps like Omnigraffle but I wonder where are the Mac dev apps?



    Where is PDFpen, Acorn, Pixelmator, Transmit, Picturesque, Skitch, Notebook, etc.? Hopefully these are actively being developed. I would also expect an iMovie for iPad and GarageBand (though Apple may have to allow full access to the iPod app).
  • Reply 25 of 141
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rickogorman View Post


    Sorry Daniel, I don't think you can draw such a conclusion on a comparison between as narrow a difference as 3% between 78% and 75%, nor can I believe that developers have been able to suss the preferences of iPad users versus iPhone users in the space of a couple of months. I'd say either it's a statistical bump or assumptions on the part of developers.



    I agree, 3-5% is too small a difference to claim people are willing to pay more. Now if you found that the average amount spent per iPad was significantly higher than the average amount per iPhone/iPod, you may have a case. But again, your numbers have to be larger.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post


    Where are the trollers' comments about what percentage of the 10K apps are fart apps? On a related note, I wonder how an iPad native version of a fart app would improve it.



    Louder, stereo sounds, and a larger image of the offending buttocks (animated in HD!).
  • Reply 26 of 141
    reganregan Posts: 474member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by str1f3 View Post


    I would have to agree but begrudgingly. This is the first generation of apps. They will get better. There are a few high quality apps like Omnigraffle but I wonder where are the Mac dev apps?



    Where is PDFpen, Acorn, Pixelmator, Picturesque, Notebook, etc.? Hopefully these are actively being developed. I would also expect an iMovie for iPad and GarageBand (though Apple may have to allow full access to the iPod app).



    I just read that a lite version of iMovie for the iPhone(and I presume the touch and iPad too) is going to be coming out with the iPhone OiS 4 that is about to be released. Supposedly it will sell for $4.99. True, the iPad doesn't have a camera, but transferring HD video shot at 720p on the new iPhone(and upcoming touch with camera) can easily be transferred to the iPad via the cam kit. Plus editing on the iPad screen will be so much more enjoyable.



    I hope the entire sweet of iLife apps get lite versions that work on the iPad. That'd shut all those saying the iPad is not a laptop replacement up fo sho'. :-P
  • Reply 27 of 141
    myapplelovemyapplelove Posts: 1,515member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by eyez73 View Post


    Can anyone recommend any good websites to find the best ones? As people have said before iTunes is a waste of time look for good stuff.



    Thanks !



    I don't have any suggestions, but I second what you said.



    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dagamer34 View Post


    The problem is that having a large number of apps doesn't mean you have GREAT apps. I mean, the apps that really shine, that really show what the platform can do. This week, Reeder for iPad came out, even though there are probably 6-7 RSS iPad apps out there. Sure, the other ones technically did the job, and some even looked nice, but I'm pretty sure most people would agree with me in that Reeder was the first RSS app that really had a developer that took his/her time, thought about how a user would interact with the UI, and polished it into something uniquely iPad.



    The problem with a vast majority of iPad apps out there now is that they are either very cookie-cutter in terms of design or simply iPhone apps scaled up. It'll take months to years to get truly meaningful apps. And the iPad has a HUGE problem the iPhone doesn't have: a ton of space. And quite frankly, most developers aren't using that space effectively!



    I bought the daily edition and I am pretty satisfied with it, although it does need polishing, I wasn't aware of reeder.
  • Reply 28 of 141
    lochiaslochias Posts: 83member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bedouin View Post


    Despite being an Apple fan and always expressing joy at other companies' failures, I don't think this is very fair.



    This is kind of like saying, the Playstation 2 had more games than the Gamecube since it could play all the original Playstation's games. Okay, not exactly an identical comparison because these are supposedly 'iPad' versions, but let's be real. How many 'iPad' apps are simple rehashes of the iPhone versions that took some coder a half hour to whip up?



    And how many iPhone apps are much more than a $4.99 Dashboard widget? Don't declare victory over numbers. OS X vs. Windows is a perfect example of one platform with more apps than the other, but one with clearly superior offerings in key areas.



    Flooding the market with lots of shit and no quality control is what sparked the video game crash of the 80s. Despite having a submission process the app store is vulnerable to this. Think about that when you hear people bitching about not being able to submit anything they want.



    What post are you responding to?
  • Reply 29 of 141
    quinneyquinney Posts: 2,525member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    Google currently forbids Android tablet makers from putting Android Market on their non-smartphone devices



    Will someone please explain the rationale for this?
  • Reply 30 of 141
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,281member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    The vast majority of ipad apps are sad.



    Then write one that isn't so sad.
  • Reply 31 of 141
    quadra 610quadra 610 Posts: 6,744member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by TenoBell View Post


    For those who believe developers are running away from Apple and their app store policies.



    That's the bullshit being spread by the Windows advocates and tech-heads who are perpetually out of touch with the market and totally ignorant about what's actually good for the average user.
  • Reply 32 of 141
    alandailalandail Posts: 689member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Pooch View Post


    it seems to me that development costs for an ipad app wouldn't be much greater than for an iphone app (especially porting an app), and it would seem that the learning curve is far less for an ipad app than it would have been for an iphone app.



    observations?



    It depends. For some apps, all you really have to do is take advantage of the larger screen to show more content/detail. For something like this, a universal app that's the same price that the iPhone app is makes sense as there aren't significant incremental costs involved.



    For other apps, there are significant additional development costs involved as the developer is trying to get closer to a desktop app in functionality, thus would want to charge more. The other factor in price is there are currently about 50x as many iPhone sized devices as there are iPad devices.



    Even the "expensive" iPad apps are absurdly cheap compared to desktop apps.
  • Reply 33 of 141
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 7,149member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by bloggerblog View Post


    The vast majority of ipad apps are sad.



    It must suck to go through life never satisfied with anyone or anything. The Debbie Downers posting here are truly sad specters.
  • Reply 34 of 141
    campercamper Posts: 30member
    I'd much rather have more quality apps, and less quantity. Additionally, the means to sift through all those apps is pretty poor.
  • Reply 35 of 141
    solipsismsolipsism Posts: 25,726member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by alandail View Post


    I wasn't even going to read the link until you asked this question, but I see many things wrong with the article.



    1 - you can bump up from the 200 meg plan to the 2 gig plan mid cycle and then go back the next billing period, so it's unlikely that you pay more that $25 unless you go over 2 gigs. The article suggests you'd end up paying $150 for 2 gigs.



    2 - the article projects data usage patterns in 2014 and applies them to today's prices. Competition and faster networks will lower the per gig rates over time.



    3 - the article completely ignores wifi. Most people have wifi at work and at home, so a good deal of their data usage, even in 2014, won't be over 3G.



    I looked at my own data usage history with my iPhone and I've yet to top 400 megs of data in a given month. I see nothing wrong with having the 2% who are using excessive bandwidth paying $10 to $20 more/month.



    I do agree that the data tethering plan should include more bandwidth. Let the $20 charge there up the limit to 4 gigs/month. Most people aren't going to reach the limit anyway.



    I only skimmed that craptastic article, but he seems to ignore that current users can keep their Unlimited plans if they wish and that the average user's needs are low enough that many can save $5 to $15 month with these new plans.



    These AT&T plans are very, very good over all. My only two complaints are the aforementioned $20 to tether on a capped plan with no additional data and the dropping of the iPad 3G Unlimited plan for new buyers. Since it's contract-free, many bought the iPad 3G specifically for the occasional travel needs. They know exactly which devices on their network is an iPad so I'm surprised they did this only a few weeks after it went on sale.
  • Reply 36 of 141
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 2,469member
    Quote:

    Google currently forbids Android tablet makers from putting Android Market on their non-smartphone devices, so there is no official market for Android-based tablet software comparable to what Apple maintains for iPad users.



    That's one way to avoid market fragmentation!
  • Reply 37 of 141
    2 cents2 cents Posts: 307member
    Jeebus!!! How long has the ipad been out? Can we give it a half year? A year? If patience is a virtue...I don't even want go there.



    Relax, take a deep breath. If you are a technofile you have it pretty damn good with these iDevices right now. The Telecoms are another story.
  • Reply 38 of 141
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    10,000 apps and not one good way to sort through them...



    Also, I bet a lot of devs are waiting for a 4.0 sdk before launching any new ideas that aren't as complete without 4.0s APIs.
  • Reply 39 of 141
    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pmz View Post


    10,000 apps and not one good way to sort through them...



    Also, I bet a lot of devs are waiting for a 4.0 sdk before launching any new ideas that aren't as complete without 4.0s APIs.



    This not Apple's fault. How do you search for good music on iTunes? How about a music store? The answer is you can't. You go on word of mouth. When you're dealing with this much content, there are some that will get lost in the fold. It is up to the devs to promote their product.



    For me an example of this is Air Video. I found about this through an App of the Day website before most knew about this app. I follow many Mac sites and no one mentioned it. Then, all of a sudden, it blew up. To me, it is one of the top 10 apps on the App Store.
  • Reply 40 of 141
    mactelmactel Posts: 1,275member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post


    PadGadget notes that HP's Palm/webOS, RIM's BlackBerry App World, and Nokia's Symbian platform all boast fewer than 7,000 apps.



    That'll change. There's less junk on those app stores to choose from. I'm hopeful Blackberry OS 6.0 will usher in better performing and higher quality apps. I'm due for a new phone so I'm torn between sticking with RIM or going HTC EVO or iPhone 4.
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