Some iPhone 4 launch units lose signal when held with left hand

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    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
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    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nikon133 View Post


    Interesting.



    I am leftie but I I still pick up phone with my left hand when calling or answering calls. I usually use left thumb to operate while holding phone in left hand, though I will switch it to right hand once in a while - when typing long or multiple txts, which I find easier to do with left index finger (or both hands in landscape).



    Lefties generally favor more heavily their left hands as opposed to righties. I am a lefty and it is the same way with me.









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    This. Is. Disgraceful.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/a...re-holding-th/





    If this email is true then Apple and Jobs should be ashamed of themselves. It's an insult to tell someone they're holding it the wrong way especially considering all of those iPhone commercials holding the phone in the exact same way.



    It also appears they were aware of this and the bumper case was the solution.
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  • Reply 303 of 445
    Apple's hasty response to this is straight up Applegeddon. The only thing that can save Apple now is by adding "Until we get you your new phone!"
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  • Reply 304 of 445
    Ok, after waiting in line at my Apple store for almost four hours, I have my new 4G iPhone...and sure enough, I can reproduce the same issue mentioned. Holding the phone as has been described, I drop bars. Then it moves from 3G down to EDGE and then "Searching". Started a call without holding the phone (4bars), then picked it up in my left hand and within about 20-30 seconds, lost all bars and the call was dropped...this is on the standard 3G network...



    Now here is something interesting...I also have an AT&T microcell. Once I got home, my phone connected to it with no problems. Picking up the phone in my left hand, I get no loss in bars or any dropped calls. Tried four different calls and no issues whatsoever.



    I need to do some more testing but can someone else who also uses the AT&T microcell confirm the same thing? On 3G, you loose bars and then eventually the signal, on the microcell, no issues at all...
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    mikep123mikep123 Posts: 31member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    This. Is. Disgraceful.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/a...re-holding-th/



    I wonder if this will turn out to be prank. Love him or hate him, SJ is not stupid. With all of the press this is getting I can't imagine him tersely telling someone to hold their phone differently. It reminds me of the old joke where the patient says to the doctor "My arm hurts when I do this..." and the doctor responds "Then don't do it.". If this is true then it's much worse than a bad joke and I'd hope most people would loose some respect for him.
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  • Reply 306 of 445
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    oh duh, everyone's just HOLDING THEIR PHONE WRONG.



    yeah that's it. everyone knows how to hold a phone right? how can anyone not know that!
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    hands sandonhands sandon Posts: 5,270member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post


    This. Is. Disgraceful.



    http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/24/a...re-holding-th/



    There are going to be a lot of dropped iPhone 4's given you can't rest it on the palm of your hand like any sensible person does, in part to prevent it sliding out of your hand. Bumpers needed indeed.
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  • Reply 308 of 445
    chronsterchronster Posts: 1,894member
    who else thinks steve is just stressing out and responding too hastily?



    I have a feeling his guts have been churning ever since the fiasco with purchases online, and the white iphone having a production issue. Maybe he just needs to get some sleep.
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    str1f3str1f3 Posts: 573member
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    who else thinks steve is just stressing out and responding too hastily?



    I have a feeling his guts have been churning ever since the fiasco with purchases online, and the white iphone having a production issue. Maybe he just needs to get some sleep.



    I'm sure someone at Apple had a good night sleep. The email has been confirmed as coming from Apple and the statement sounds like PR speak.
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  • Reply 310 of 445
    So, I thought I bought an iPhone 4.....but I guess I really bought an iPod Touch 4.



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    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
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    Originally Posted by nht View Post


    If that works maybe clear nail polish might also work. I'd probably just cover the entire lower antenna...very carefully.



    Electrical tape?
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    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jdsonice View Post


    So you are saying that the millions of phone manufactured by Apple will have to be fixed or dumped?



    If that happens then that will be the buying opportunity of a lifetime to buy apple stock.



    You got that right. This could be the biggest screw-up in Apple history when something as fundamental as antenna signal interference caused by normal customer use was not thoroughly thought through...!!! Oh, dear. This is really dumb.
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  • Reply 313 of 445
    grkinggrking Posts: 533member
    Quote:
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    You got that right. This could be the biggest screw-up in Apple history when something as fundamental as antenna signal interference caused by normal customer use was not thoroughly thought through...!!! Oh, dear. This is really dumb.



    But SJ says this is not an issue, so it is, by definition, not an issue. Remember, the yellow screens on the 27" iMacs were not an issue, and MacPros playing mp3's at 100% CPU useage was not an issue.



    Besides, remember, "normal use" is what SJ says it is, not what you are I, or any number of other customers, say it is. End of story. So, hold the phone differently, buy a case, buy a different phone, or talk to your orthopedic surgeon to have your hand reconstructed so it is not an issue.
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  • Reply 314 of 445
    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


    You got that right. This could be the biggest screw-up in Apple history when something as fundamental as antenna signal interference caused by normal customer use was not thoroughly thought through...!!! Oh, dear. This is really dumb.



    I know, and they are trying to tell us to hold the fucking things differently. Today I'm ashamed to be an iPhone owner and Mac user. Steve needs to wake up if he thinks he can tell people they are holding their phones wrong. It's like emailing him and saying: "every time I press the return key the computer loses Wifi." And his response is to not press the return key.



    I'm disgusted.
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    hands sandonhands sandon Posts: 5,270member
    It's interesting to see this video that someone posted over at macrumors. I get the same thing happening very frequently but just by gently cupping the phone with my hand- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMuBMfA7Zw
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    irelandireland Posts: 17,801member
    Quote:
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    It's interesting to see this video that someone posted over at macrumors. I get the same thing happening very frequently but just by gently cupping the phone with my hand- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMuBMfA7Zw



    It doesn't help matters when you hold the phone in a weird way, it makes the nay sayers say nobody holds a phone like that. You could have gently cradled it like you usually do while using the device and you'd still get the issue.
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  • Reply 317 of 445
    hands sandonhands sandon Posts: 5,270member
    Thinking about Apple's response got me thinking back to a program I heard on the radio a few months ago that said the US government wanted phones to be kept at least half an inch or so away from the body due to the high levels of radiation they give off that causes medical problems. I wonder if Apple are pushing for having cases so that you keep it away from you because of possible new regulations that will enforce that? It's seems sort of daft, I know, but maybe not completely out of the question.
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  • Reply 318 of 445
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    who else thinks steve is just stressing out and responding too hastily?



    Dude, the guy almost died. Of pancreatic cancer - close to zero survivability rate. And it's cancer, not the flu. It's a long, difficult process, and the chance of recurrence is always present. It would be surprising if he were not medicated almost daily even now.



    He says he's all better, but when he first left he said it was nothing serious. Steve says a lot of things, and considers his health a very private matter.



    I have no doubt the near-death experience and ongoing fears are driving a lot of the more erratic behaviors that are making new enemies across multiple industries every week...
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    guinnessguinness Posts: 473member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hands Sandon View Post


    Thinking about Apple's response got me thinking back to a program I heard on the radio a few months ago that said the US government wanted phones to be kept at least half an inch or so away from the body due to the high levels of radiation they give off that causes medical problems. I wonder if Apple are pushing for having cases so that you keep it away from you because of possible new regulations that will enforce that? It's seems sort of daft, I know, but maybe not completely out of the question.



    Sounds like some poo-pooing of (perhaps) poor engineering...
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    gchristegchriste Posts: 43member
    I am calling fake on the email. Maybe I am wrong, and a sad day it would be if that was the response, but on the assumption I am not wrong, people need to get a grip on reality. If it is a manufacturing process, it will get resolved.



    For the people saying apple field tested them in cases so never realised this is a problem, get real. They would have tested them in apple, outside apple, at home, in the air, everywhere they could. It is totally absurd and unrealistic to insinuate an industrial design/manufacture company would not test a product unless it had a case on. Come on people.



    Ireland you really need to take some pills to calm down and just wait til things get resolved. You appear to be having a major stress attack over this, and it can't be good for your health!
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