63% of people will stay because they don't want to pay an ETF. Remove the ETF and that number goes down to 20-30%.
How do I know? Look at all the iPhone people unsatisfied with AT&T. People are not staying because they like AT&T, they are staying because they have no choice.
So much for the "Once the iPhone goes to Verizon, AT&T is doomed!"
What are you, some kinda ATT fanboy?
A lot (deliberately vague) of people want Verizon to get the iPhone. It's not about ATT vs Verizon and "who's number one", it's about everyone getting the iPhone and increasing the value of Apple's stock. And that will happen when the iPhone is opened up to multiple carriers in the USA. Not because ATT is "better" but because no carrier is everywhere.
63% of people will stay because they don't want to pay an ETF. Remove the ETF and that number goes down to 20-30%.
How do I know? Look at all the iPhone people unsatisfied with AT&T. People are not staying because they like AT&T, they are staying because they have no choice.
I’m more satisfied with AT&T than any other carrier I’ve ever been with. I have issues, but I don’t think it’s anymore — and probably less — than other carriers in the US.
In the areas i travel I get great upload and download speeds and the use of voice and data at the same times (which is the only way I seem to make a phone call) so I won’t be switching from AT&T. Even if Verizon could retrofit simultaneous voice and data and AT&T said they would forgo the ETF fee (laugh) I still wouldn’t switch as there is no way Verizon could match AT&T’s 3G speeds.
A lot (deliberately vague) of people want Verizon to get the iPhone. It's not about ATT vs Verizon and "who's number one", it's about everyone getting the iPhone and increasing the value of Apple's stock. And that will happen when the iPhone is opened up to multiple carriers in the USA. Not because ATT is "better" but because no carrier is everywhere.
So put down the pom poms, okay?
Exactly. Why does someone/something need to be doomed? A multi carrier iPhone in the U.S. will be only a good thing for Apple but it will most certainly not mean the demise of ATT, Android, etc?
Your post got me off the sidelines. Thanks for that.
After reading the linked articles, I find your (and the articles you link to) claim to be suspect. Both articles are based on the same research report, which I cannot find on the ABIresearch site to review. And the first article includes a comment by ATT which seems to be a compelling rebuttal to the report's conclusions.
So it's true that there was 1 report written that stated Verizon and Sprint handle more data traffic than ATT. However, I'm not convinced based on this single claim.
Prophecy is false. Steve B can't possibly last until 2015.
Well actually, he could last longer than that. Because 2010 marks the 7th year that Microsoft has failed to do anything in the mobile segment, so it's likely that the board is stupid enough to let him keep going. Thing is though, revenues are up and so are profits. I'm guessing mostly because of increased sales of Office on the Mac and xBox
I'm not sure who would be able to turn that ship around after his departure though.
I've heard bad areas in NYC, but the DC area is just horrible. When you have service it's great! But what you may have one minute is gone the next. This is especially true when crossing any of the bridges or riding along the GW parkway. It's almost as if the Cell towers get confused on where I'm going. I'll have full bars, then none, then full bars again. This is the case with every single iPhone I've owned (3G on up to the 4). I purposely bought my iPhone 4 without renewing (paid full price - but I'll sell it when I switch) so that I could switch over to VZ as soon as possible when they get the iPhone. It's sad when my GF is talking on her 4 year old feature phone on VZ and doesn't have a single problem in the car, and I had 3 dropped calls during the same exact time.
Your post got me off the sidelines. Thanks for that.
After reading the linked articles, I find your (and the articles you link to) claim to be suspect. Both articles are based on the same research report, which I cannot find on the ABIresearch site to review. And the first article includes a comment by ATT which seems to be a compelling rebuttal to the report's conclusions.
So it's true that there was 1 report written that stated Verizon and Sprint handle more data traffic than ATT. However, I'm not convinced based on this single claim.
The first article only discussed smartphones but I think the second one has it right. Both VZW and Sprint sell a boatload of broadband cards and I would attribute that heavy data usage to those cards.
Have been an AT&T customer for a few months now, switching because of the iPhone 4 (which I am totally satisfied with). My experience with AT&T has been great to now. Speeds are great, connection is top notch, service plans are very reasonable, ability to modify my plan on the fly... on and on.
I have nothing but good things to say about AT&T. YMMV. I suspect there are many out there like me who are happy to stay with a good carrier with great service and reasonable rates.
I am happy with AT&T. I will look at what Verizon does with their LTE service, since simultaneous voice and data is crucial for me, and how much it costs. Until then, no plans to switch.
Not entirely true. Assuming they keep the same pricing structure, it would be cheaper for me to cancel my existing contract and sign with Verizon than to upgrade on AT&T, since they want to charge me a rediculous extra $200 dollars since I missed their early upgrade program by a lousy 13 days.
How much would your ETF be? Would you still be upgrading the phone?
No, haven't you heard? Apple is Doomed? ... The phone wars are over, Apple and iOS lost, Android won. It's too little, too late. Apple missed the Verizon boat. Maybe their best hope is to ditch iOS and come out with Android phones and tablets, people are abandoning Apple and AT&T in droves.
And your proof is where exactly? What a loser fandroid. Just like the rest of the loser crowd
And your proof is where exactly? What a loser fandroid. Just like the rest of the loser crowd
His post was sarcastic.
PS: The Temherte slaqî really needs to get used more. How we can have internet forums without a sarcmark is beyond me. This type of mark will be common punctuation one day. It?s easy to use on on a Mac: Option+1 = ¡.
PS: The Temherte slaqî really needs to get used more. How we can have internet forums without a sarcmark is beyond me. This type of mark will be common punctuation one day. It?s easy to use on on a Mac: Option+1 = ¡.
Even if his comment wasn't sarcastic the personal attack is pathetic. Your last signature is sadly true, you can't have an educated debate on this forum without the personal attacks flying within three posts.
Every time another product or company makes the news on this forum we get three or four pages of people in panic mode trying to tell everyone how it isn't true or hyper sensitive about Apple.
I belong to many forums and I always find it interesting on this forum somehow thinks it has a ratio of 50% trolls. We have other members that most of of the time they post is simply to try and get another member banned.
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Steve Ballmer is fired.
Prophecy is false. Steve B can't possibly last until 2015.
How do I know? Look at all the iPhone people unsatisfied with AT&T. People are not staying because they like AT&T, they are staying because they have no choice.
Source?
http://erictric.com/2010/0:)4/13/ver...n-att-in-2009/
http://hothardware.com/News/Verizon-...-ABI-Research/
So much for the "Once the iPhone goes to Verizon, AT&T is doomed!"
What are you, some kinda ATT fanboy?
A lot (deliberately vague) of people want Verizon to get the iPhone. It's not about ATT vs Verizon and "who's number one", it's about everyone getting the iPhone and increasing the value of Apple's stock. And that will happen when the iPhone is opened up to multiple carriers in the USA. Not because ATT is "better" but because no carrier is everywhere.
So put down the pom poms, okay?
63% of people will stay because they don't want to pay an ETF. Remove the ETF and that number goes down to 20-30%.
How do I know? Look at all the iPhone people unsatisfied with AT&T. People are not staying because they like AT&T, they are staying because they have no choice.
I’m more satisfied with AT&T than any other carrier I’ve ever been with. I have issues, but I don’t think it’s anymore — and probably less — than other carriers in the US.
In the areas i travel I get great upload and download speeds and the use of voice and data at the same times (which is the only way I seem to make a phone call) so I won’t be switching from AT&T. Even if Verizon could retrofit simultaneous voice and data and AT&T said they would forgo the ETF fee (laugh) I still wouldn’t switch as there is no way Verizon could match AT&T’s 3G speeds.
What are you, some kinda ATT fanboy?
A lot (deliberately vague) of people want Verizon to get the iPhone. It's not about ATT vs Verizon and "who's number one", it's about everyone getting the iPhone and increasing the value of Apple's stock. And that will happen when the iPhone is opened up to multiple carriers in the USA. Not because ATT is "better" but because no carrier is everywhere.
So put down the pom poms, okay?
Exactly. Why does someone/something need to be doomed? A multi carrier iPhone in the U.S. will be only a good thing for Apple but it will most certainly not mean the demise of ATT, Android, etc?
http://erictric.com/2010/0:)4/13/ver...n-att-in-2009/
http://hothardware.com/News/Verizon-...-ABI-Research/
Your post got me off the sidelines. Thanks for that.
After reading the linked articles, I find your (and the articles you link to) claim to be suspect. Both articles are based on the same research report, which I cannot find on the ABIresearch site to review. And the first article includes a comment by ATT which seems to be a compelling rebuttal to the report's conclusions.
So it's true that there was 1 report written that stated Verizon and Sprint handle more data traffic than ATT. However, I'm not convinced based on this single claim.
Prophecy is false. Steve B can't possibly last until 2015.
Well actually, he could last longer than that. Because 2010 marks the 7th year that Microsoft has failed to do anything in the mobile segment, so it's likely that the board is stupid enough to let him keep going. Thing is though, revenues are up and so are profits. I'm guessing mostly because of increased sales of Office on the Mac and xBox
I'm not sure who would be able to turn that ship around after his departure though.
BTW, I love the new look on AppleInsider.
BTW, I love the new look on AppleInsider.
It looks like the all gray iTunes to me. I miss the old six color rainbow Apple look.
Your post got me off the sidelines. Thanks for that.
After reading the linked articles, I find your (and the articles you link to) claim to be suspect. Both articles are based on the same research report, which I cannot find on the ABIresearch site to review. And the first article includes a comment by ATT which seems to be a compelling rebuttal to the report's conclusions.
So it's true that there was 1 report written that stated Verizon and Sprint handle more data traffic than ATT. However, I'm not convinced based on this single claim.
Here's their website http://www.abiresearch.com/home.jsp.
The first article only discussed smartphones but I think the second one has it right. Both VZW and Sprint sell a boatload of broadband cards and I would attribute that heavy data usage to those cards.
I have nothing but good things to say about AT&T. YMMV. I suspect there are many out there like me who are happy to stay with a good carrier with great service and reasonable rates.
Not entirely true. Assuming they keep the same pricing structure, it would be cheaper for me to cancel my existing contract and sign with Verizon than to upgrade on AT&T, since they want to charge me a rediculous extra $200 dollars since I missed their early upgrade program by a lousy 13 days.
How much would your ETF be? Would you still be upgrading the phone?
Not at all, but it does undercut the argument that once the iPhone goes to Verizon Android is doomed.
Android may already be doomed. The latest "Android" phones aren't even Android phones.
How much would your ETF be? Would you still be upgrading the phone?
That would mean his ETF fee is:where x equals the number of full pay periods he’s had the contract. Either way it would be cheaper for him to to move to Verizon.
No, haven't you heard? Apple is Doomed? ... The phone wars are over, Apple and iOS lost, Android won. It's too little, too late. Apple missed the Verizon boat. Maybe their best hope is to ditch iOS and come out with Android phones and tablets, people are abandoning Apple and AT&T in droves.
And your proof is where exactly? What a loser fandroid. Just like the rest of the loser crowd
And your proof is where exactly? What a loser fandroid. Just like the rest of the loser crowd
His post was sarcastic.
PS: The Temherte slaqî really needs to get used more. How we can have internet forums without a sarcmark is beyond me. This type of mark will be common punctuation one day. It?s easy to use on on a Mac: Option+1 = ¡.
His post was sarcastic.
PS: The Temherte slaqî really needs to get used more. How we can have internet forums without a sarcmark is beyond me. This type of mark will be common punctuation one day. It?s easy to use on on a Mac: Option+1 = ¡.
Even if his comment wasn't sarcastic the personal attack is pathetic. Your last signature is sadly true, you can't have an educated debate on this forum without the personal attacks flying within three posts.
Every time another product or company makes the news on this forum we get three or four pages of people in panic mode trying to tell everyone how it isn't true or hyper sensitive about Apple.
I belong to many forums and I always find it interesting on this forum somehow thinks it has a ratio of 50% trolls. We have other members that most of of the time they post is simply to try and get another member banned.