Ack! That would be pretty disgusting if the zoning ordinance required Apple to build 500-1000 parking spaces for a facility that's going to employ only 300 people. It would make sense if it was a shopping mall or sports arena—they have to have enough parking spaces to accommodate employees and customers. The data center presumably is not going to be hosting hundreds of customers on a daily basis, so I really hope they're not forced to waste space for that sort of thing.
Don't be surprised! Thanks, Apple for at least building it here and not in Vietnam, China, Mexico or India!
This is what Fareed Zakaria is taking about on this week's cover of Time Magazine. Technology is not creating a lot of jobs.
It's likely painted white to reflect sunlight so the sun doesn't heat the building so much. Something tells me that they won't need additional heating.
Indeed.
Holder Construction
"Holder Construction Company is the industry leader in Data Center construction. Holder has maintained the #1 ranking on ENR's Top 10 Data Center Contractors list for the past three years. Holder's reputation for delivering the highest level of service on mission critical data center facilities is second to none.
* Experience on over 100 data center projects in last 10 years
* Over 7 million square feet of space
* Over 3.5 million square feet of raised floor
* Over 50 new construction projects
* Majority of facilities have a fault tolerant, concurrently maintainable design
* Experience in data center construction in 21 states and 2 foreign countries
"The Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Green Building Rating System? encourages and accelerates global adoption of sustainable green building and development practices through the creation and implementation of universally understood and accepted tools and performance criteria."
"Site Magazine" continues with some other interesting notes:
"Marin believes the Foothills region is poised to become a major data center cluster.
"We've seen it happen over the years and we've heard references to the area as the next Quincy, Washington," Marin says, referring to a region that attracted Microsoft and Yahoo server farms a few years ago. "After the first two or three in, there's a herd to follow. There's a herd mentality for a number of reasons. By the time the third or fourth guy goes there, there's such an infrastructure from the power and vendor standpoint that you do see a data center cluster."
Marin says some megatrends ? such as cloud computing, applications on personal devices and music and video storage ? are driving data center demand.
"Apple is a great example. The success of their products has driven data center demand. They did not think they would need this much data space."
Marin says Duke Energy has been "fantastic" in the development of North Carolina's data center infrastructure. Power availability, the cost of that power, and the source of its generation are key considerations in siting a data center, and Duke delivers on all counts, he says.
"Duke delivers the first substation on site at no cost to the user," he explains, "and for these big projects where you need a 45- or 100-megawatt substation, Duke will deliver it on site."
Don't be surprised! Thanks, Apple for at least building it here and not in Vietnam, China, Mexico or India!
Um. I'm actually in India. Hate to say it though ? as much as I'd like to see a greater Apple presence (or maybe just an Apple presence, period!) in India (Apple Stores PLEASE!!!), building a high-tech server farm here would not be such a wise idea. At least not until we vastly improve our infrastructure.
I don't think the decision to keep the server farm in the US was motivated by any kind of nationalistic sentiment ("BE AMERICAN! BUY AMERICAN!!!"). Most likely had more to do with infrastructure, hardware, real estate, logistics, etc. Being that the facility will only likely employ three hundred people, and, according to the article, only 50 of those will wear Apple badges, there wouldn't be a whole lot of money to be saved by "outsourcing".
The 'link' to Cloud/Planet is just down the road (not too far from Goober's place) via the 'connection' near Reston VA, the original (D)ARPA/CIA 'main hub' when the Internet was 'invented' - and yes, Al Gore did have a hand in it; as a Senator 30 odd years ago he was one of the few who knew/saw the potential and pushed for funding to expand Internet beyond just the Mil/Gov/Edu foundations.
Since then, while standing on the shoulders of those like A.C. Clarke, M. McLuhan, et al - Steve/Woz and few others have been dreaming of this for a long time.
Damn - let's hook up the Whole Village.
And now that Day is almost upon us.
Thankfully, all this time - Billy G. and Ape Boy were busy counting their $$ as they sold cash registers and adding machines to the like minded. So they've about taken themselves out of the Game as it moves into the Future.
But for those who "Think Different" ?
Sheet Mon - we're finally ready to get started.
.
Oh yea, and that roof ?
Will double as a Landing iPad for ... well, whatever may want to land there
Ack! That would be pretty disgusting if the zoning ordinance required Apple to build 500-1000 parking spaces for a facility that's going to employ only 300 people. It would make sense if it was a shopping mall or sports arena?they have to have enough parking spaces to accommodate employees and customers. The data center presumably is not going to be hosting hundreds of customers on a daily basis, so I really hope they're not forced to waste space for that sort of thing.
I did say "reserve area for" as opposed to "build." Most jurisdictions would probably allow a lot of that area to remain set aside unpaved for as long as Apple used the property for a data center. Zoning ordinances try to be forward-looking and to anticipate possible future uses for the building. Not that American cities aren't vastly over-parked and over-paved, but that's a function of how much we drive, and how much we resent being made to hunt for a parking space at our destinations.
With all the arial photos of this thing, can't someone use the size of the cars/trucks/parking spaces to do a rough calculation on the square footage? They should put a big Apple logo on top.
With all the arial photos of this thing, can't someone use the size of the cars/trucks/parking spaces to do a rough calculation on the square footage? They should put a big Apple logo on top.
It would. With all the wild guessing going on, I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to check with the local permitting authorities. It's cheaper and more accurate than flying a helicopter over the site and guessing, though not as much fun...
FWIW, I ended up doing a bit of sleuthing and posted the findings in this thread (post #43 and others onward)
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Ack! That would be pretty disgusting if the zoning ordinance required Apple to build 500-1000 parking spaces for a facility that's going to employ only 300 people. It would make sense if it was a shopping mall or sports arena—they have to have enough parking spaces to accommodate employees and customers. The data center presumably is not going to be hosting hundreds of customers on a daily basis, so I really hope they're not forced to waste space for that sort of thing.
Don't be surprised! Thanks, Apple for at least building it here and not in Vietnam, China, Mexico or India!
This is what Fareed Zakaria is taking about on this week's cover of Time Magazine. Technology is not creating a lot of jobs.
It's likely painted white to reflect sunlight so the sun doesn't heat the building so much. Something tells me that they won't need additional heating.
Indeed.
Holder Construction
"Holder Construction Company is the industry leader in Data Center construction. Holder has maintained the #1 ranking on ENR's Top 10 Data Center Contractors list for the past three years. Holder's reputation for delivering the highest level of service on mission critical data center facilities is second to none.
* Experience on over 100 data center projects in last 10 years
* Over 7 million square feet of space
* Over 3.5 million square feet of raised floor
* Over 50 new construction projects
* Majority of facilities have a fault tolerant, concurrently maintainable design
* Experience in data center construction in 21 states and 2 foreign countries
* Leader of LEED data center construction "
http://www.holderconstruction.com/pr...echnology.aspx
LEED
"The Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) Green Building Rating System? encourages and accelerates global adoption of sustainable green building and development practices through the creation and implementation of universally understood and accepted tools and performance criteria."
http://www.cagbc.org/leed/what/index.php
Why don't they just store in the "cloud" like everyone else? Why to they have to have a big, white building?
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Which is why Apple isn't blabbing about what this facility is for.
And, there must be other facilities. Don't want all your apples in one basket. How do they do mobileme etc now?
Don't be surprised! Thanks, Apple for at least building it here and not in Vietnam, China, Mexico or India!
Um. I'm actually in India.
I don't think the decision to keep the server farm in the US was motivated by any kind of nationalistic sentiment ("BE AMERICAN! BUY AMERICAN!!!"). Most likely had more to do with infrastructure, hardware, real estate, logistics, etc. Being that the facility will only likely employ three hundred people, and, according to the article, only 50 of those will wear Apple badges, there wouldn't be a whole lot of money to be saved by "outsourcing".
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Just a co-incidence ?
Yea, right ...
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The 'link' to Cloud/Planet is just down the road (not too far from Goober's place) via the 'connection' near Reston VA, the original (D)ARPA/CIA 'main hub' when the Internet was 'invented' - and yes, Al Gore did have a hand in it; as a Senator 30 odd years ago he was one of the few who knew/saw the potential and pushed for funding to expand Internet beyond just the Mil/Gov/Edu foundations.
Since then, while standing on the shoulders of those like A.C. Clarke, M. McLuhan, et al - Steve/Woz and few others have been dreaming of this for a long time.
Damn - let's hook up the Whole Village.
And now that Day is almost upon us.
Thankfully, all this time - Billy G. and Ape Boy were busy counting their $$ as they sold cash registers and adding machines to the like minded. So they've about taken themselves out of the Game as it moves into the Future.
But for those who "Think Different" ?
Sheet Mon - we're finally ready to get started.
.
Oh yea, and that roof ?
Will double as a Landing iPad for ... well, whatever may want to land there
.
Ack! That would be pretty disgusting if the zoning ordinance required Apple to build 500-1000 parking spaces for a facility that's going to employ only 300 people. It would make sense if it was a shopping mall or sports arena?they have to have enough parking spaces to accommodate employees and customers. The data center presumably is not going to be hosting hundreds of customers on a daily basis, so I really hope they're not forced to waste space for that sort of thing.
I did say "reserve area for" as opposed to "build." Most jurisdictions would probably allow a lot of that area to remain set aside unpaved for as long as Apple used the property for a data center. Zoning ordinances try to be forward-looking and to anticipate possible future uses for the building. Not that American cities aren't vastly over-parked and over-paved, but that's a function of how much we drive, and how much we resent being made to hunt for a parking space at our destinations.
With all the arial photos of this thing, can't someone use the size of the cars/trucks/parking spaces to do a rough calculation on the square footage? They should put a big Apple logo on top.
Done already (the calculations, not the logo):
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/25/...ng-at-nc-site/
It seems the building now nearing completion is 500,000 square feet.
It would. With all the wild guessing going on, I'm surprised that nobody has bothered to check with the local permitting authorities. It's cheaper and more accurate than flying a helicopter over the site and guessing, though not as much fun...
FWIW, I ended up doing a bit of sleuthing and posted the findings in this thread (post #43 and others onward)
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showt...=114139&page=2
Done already (the calculations, not the logo):
http://www.macrumors.com/2010/10/25/...ng-at-nc-site/
It seems the building now nearing completion is 500,000 square feet.
Thank you, that I wanted to know.