I don't think this is going to happen. Contrary to the wild claims by some that this is the first step in turning Mac OS X into a walled garden, I think this is more a move on Apple's part to make using Mac OS X as simple as possible, particularly for new users. Existing users are used to obtaining software from multiple sources, and integrating existing purchases from all software vendors into the store is simply too complicated, especially when software vendors have different upgrade policies, and quite probably incomplete customer lists. But, for users new to the platform, getting up and running with the software they need will now be extremely simple, making the choice to switch even easier than it was before.
Stop making sense! You'll scare away all the anti-apple trolls.
Yes, you have to invest a whole $27 to get Snow Leopard.
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
Stop making sense! You'll scare away all the anti-apple trolls.
Funny...
I may be stating the obvious here but it's "one-stop" shopping! Remember in the early days of the internet website stores...how people used to say, customers "window shop" at the brick and morter stores at the mall and then go home and buy it from a website.
Apple has taken it one step further now you can "browse" with out going to, say, CompUSA, err Circuit City....I mean Walmart!
In fact you don't even have to use the "evil" Google anymore! Love it!
I initially installed Ubuntu 6.06 for 0 USD, and I've upgraded through every release up 'till now, without paying a cent. Apple makes plenty on hardware and the software sold through the App Store to let people at the very least upgrade their OS for free.
Why should they? They are a for profit company, just like Red Hat. They aren't allowed to charge for the OS there, but they charge for everything else.
It costs Apple hundreds of millions to develop the OS every two years or so. They should get paid. Apple doesn't even charge that much when you compare the price to Windows. So we are getting a discount considering that. In addition, unlike with Ubuntu, there is a place to go to for proper technical support.
Seems pretty good so far, and such an obvious step it's amazing Apple didn't do it years ago.
Obviously missing are all of the serious productivity apps, I assume because Autodesk, Adobe, and Microsoft would be rather less than happy to hand over 30% to Apple. Does make the graphics section rather odd though to see Photoshop, Maya, and Mudbox all missing.
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
That's the fault of those manufacturers, not Apple. You should get on their asses. I've seen worse things happen.
So any answer to how this affects previously installed iWork and iLife? People that bought before today are SOL?
It depends. I have a personal copy of iLife that was recognized as installed. I have an institutional license for iWork and it didn't recognize it. However, another site posted that the Mac App Store can detect a license when you try to buy something you already have. I didn't want to try it with iWork, but supposedly if you purchased an app and then try to purchase it from the Mac App Store, it warns you that you already have it. So you would have to delete the app and then buy it, but that would be stupid.
I've just bought Aperture for $80. That alone was worth it for me. Thanks Apple!
I've been using Steam since it came out. I've been using Direct2Drive for at least a few years, and have bought from Digital River since 2004. I think Apple's store is off to a very good start, and the buy once, install anywhere model is terrific. I realize not everyone has a giant pipe and downloading software over and over again is a problem, but for those of us fortunate enough to have good bandwidth, the digital download is a godsend.
My biggest gripe is no demos available on the store. You need to look elsewhere for them. . .
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
I started to put "you say potato, I say potato" but realized that wouldn't make much sense in writing
But my machine is a university computer and I don't really know where the licenses come from nor do I want to know, the whole plausible deniability thing and all.
So how much has this completely coincidental release of the MAS affected tech news about CES?
I read the report in this morning's WSJ about CES and they seem to spend more time reporting on a rather lack luster showing from MS and Google. Mostly, about products that may or may not come...failed products like the iSmell...it emits a smell when you go on certain websites-failure!
Also, the 90" Mittsubishi flat screen tv looked pretty cool...but it's 3D and that has not proven to be the big seller they thought it would be. I did like the thinness and size though.
Apple needs to be at the CES and have Stevo give the keynote...but Apple should drop the word "computer" from the corporate name first!
Depends where you look. Seems every time I turn around I find another charter school in the States or a government overseas standardizing on Linux.
Just look at the numbers there. While Linux was a very small percentage ahead of the Mac at the beginning of the tracking (0.1%), they're 50% ahead of them now. That's a MUCH slower growth rate for Linux. I would imagine that Apple will be much further ahead in years to come.
But what this doesn't show is current buying, just totals. Apple has a much bigger percentage of recent purchasing.
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Agreed, and why I feel Ubuntu and Mac are perfect compliments: if you can afford a Mac, get one and enjoy it. And if not, Ubuntu is priced at $0.00 and runs on nearly any computer made in the last several years.
With Mac nibbling at the top and Ubuntu at the bottom, together they can eat away the majority of Microsoft's market share.
I've tried new versions of Linux on a Mac almost every year since the first version for the PPC came out. I've always found it to be much more annoying in every way. I still do. The biggest problem for non tech people is service. Where does the typical consumer, or school district go for prompt, accurate service? It's tough. For many years I was heavily involved in the NYC school system as a technical advisor. Even here, with all the resources, we have had problems keeping up with service. Even for Macs, there aren't enough techs. For Windows, forget it!
If we moved to Linux, it would be a disaster! Computer teachers are expected to be the first line of service personnel. They do the primary work on the school's servers and computers. Windows baffles them, and OS X isn't perfect either. Linux would be much worse.
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Careful there. The owners of this site make their living pimping for Adobe on their front page.
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I don't think this is going to happen. Contrary to the wild claims by some that this is the first step in turning Mac OS X into a walled garden, I think this is more a move on Apple's part to make using Mac OS X as simple as possible, particularly for new users. Existing users are used to obtaining software from multiple sources, and integrating existing purchases from all software vendors into the store is simply too complicated, especially when software vendors have different upgrade policies, and quite probably incomplete customer lists. But, for users new to the platform, getting up and running with the software they need will now be extremely simple, making the choice to switch even easier than it was before.
Stop making sense! You'll scare away all the anti-apple trolls.
Of course: W3Schools
Interesting, assuming it's accurate. Linux growth is slowing down though. Their marketshare increase is coming from Windows.
Yes, you have to invest a whole $27 to get Snow Leopard.
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
Stop making sense! You'll scare away all the anti-apple trolls.
I may be stating the obvious here but it's "one-stop" shopping! Remember in the early days of the internet website stores...how people used to say, customers "window shop" at the brick and morter stores at the mall and then go home and buy it from a website.
Apple has taken it one step further now you can "browse" with out going to, say, CompUSA, err Circuit City....I mean Walmart!
In fact you don't even have to use the "evil" Google anymore! Love it!
I initially installed Ubuntu 6.06 for 0 USD, and I've upgraded through every release up 'till now, without paying a cent. Apple makes plenty on hardware and the software sold through the App Store to let people at the very least upgrade their OS for free.
Why should they? They are a for profit company, just like Red Hat. They aren't allowed to charge for the OS there, but they charge for everything else.
It costs Apple hundreds of millions to develop the OS every two years or so. They should get paid. Apple doesn't even charge that much when you compare the price to Windows. So we are getting a discount considering that. In addition, unlike with Ubuntu, there is a place to go to for proper technical support.
Seems pretty good so far, and such an obvious step it's amazing Apple didn't do it years ago.
Obviously missing are all of the serious productivity apps, I assume because Autodesk, Adobe, and Microsoft would be rather less than happy to hand over 30% to Apple. Does make the graphics section rather odd though to see Photoshop, Maya, and Mudbox all missing.
It's also the first day.
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
That's the fault of those manufacturers, not Apple. You should get on their asses. I've seen worse things happen.
So any answer to how this affects previously installed iWork and iLife? People that bought before today are SOL?
It depends. I have a personal copy of iLife that was recognized as installed. I have an institutional license for iWork and it didn't recognize it. However, another site posted that the Mac App Store can detect a license when you try to buy something you already have. I didn't want to try it with iWork, but supposedly if you purchased an app and then try to purchase it from the Mac App Store, it warns you that you already have it. So you would have to delete the app and then buy it, but that would be stupid.
I've been using Steam since it came out. I've been using Direct2Drive for at least a few years, and have bought from Digital River since 2004. I think Apple's store is off to a very good start, and the buy once, install anywhere model is terrific. I realize not everyone has a giant pipe and downloading software over and over again is a problem, but for those of us fortunate enough to have good bandwidth, the digital download is a godsend.
My biggest gripe is no demos available on the store. You need to look elsewhere for them. . .
yes, we would have to invest a whole $27 per station, get rid of our Imagerunner C5185 [that doesn't have RELIABLE 10.6 drivers], our DesignJet T1120ps [same driver issue], and upgrade our server.
Sounds like terrible planning.
It depends. I have a personal copy of iLife that was recognized as installed. I have an institutional license for iWork and it didn't recognize it.
Lol, you mean pirated serial?
Lol, you mean pirated serial?
I started to put "you say potato, I say potato" but realized that wouldn't make much sense in writing
But my machine is a university computer and I don't really know where the licenses come from nor do I want to know, the whole plausible deniability thing and all.
So how much has this completely coincidental release of the MAS affected tech news about CES?
I read the report in this morning's WSJ about CES and they seem to spend more time reporting on a rather lack luster showing from MS and Google. Mostly, about products that may or may not come...failed products like the iSmell...it emits a smell when you go on certain websites-failure!
Also, the 90" Mittsubishi flat screen tv looked pretty cool...but it's 3D and that has not proven to be the big seller they thought it would be. I did like the thinness and size though.
Apple needs to be at the CES and have Stevo give the keynote...but Apple should drop the word "computer" from the corporate name first!
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Depends where you look. Seems every time I turn around I find another charter school in the States or a government overseas standardizing on Linux.
Just look at the numbers there. While Linux was a very small percentage ahead of the Mac at the beginning of the tracking (0.1%), they're 50% ahead of them now. That's a MUCH slower growth rate for Linux. I would imagine that Apple will be much further ahead in years to come.
But what this doesn't show is current buying, just totals. Apple has a much bigger percentage of recent purchasing.
Agreed, and why I feel Ubuntu and Mac are perfect compliments: if you can afford a Mac, get one and enjoy it. And if not, Ubuntu is priced at $0.00 and runs on nearly any computer made in the last several years.
With Mac nibbling at the top and Ubuntu at the bottom, together they can eat away the majority of Microsoft's market share.
I've tried new versions of Linux on a Mac almost every year since the first version for the PPC came out. I've always found it to be much more annoying in every way. I still do. The biggest problem for non tech people is service. Where does the typical consumer, or school district go for prompt, accurate service? It's tough. For many years I was heavily involved in the NYC school system as a technical advisor. Even here, with all the resources, we have had problems keeping up with service. Even for Macs, there aren't enough techs. For Windows, forget it!
If we moved to Linux, it would be a disaster! Computer teachers are expected to be the first line of service personnel. They do the primary work on the school's servers and computers. Windows baffles them, and OS X isn't perfect either. Linux would be much worse.