Android 3.0 Honeycomb more akin to Tablet PC than iPad

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  • Reply 141 of 282
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    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    No, without GMail or Google Maps you have only an Android device withouth those programs, nothing less, nothing more.



    And what do you have without Android apps or the Android Marketplace?



    OPhone (OMS) and Tapas are much much less Android than Ubuntu is Debian.
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  • Reply 142 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    Okay... so tell me this...



    Can you install Android 2.2 or any other Android os other than Tapas on a Tapas phone?



    Ein? If there are drivers yes, but this porting doesn't mean nothing about OMS or Tapas being Android or not.
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  • Reply 143 of 282
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    You're in the wrong place. Try MacRumors or MacWorld.



    This is a ridiculous comment. MacRumours in particular is a fan-boy shouting match. AppleInsider is one of the least biased rumour sites out there, and I've visited most of them daily for many years now.



    Also, even though it's likely no one will believe it, Daniel's articles (arguably the most editorial on the site and therefore potentially the most biased), are actually not that biased at all. He has been caught in direct mistakes perhaps twice in the whole time he's been writing for Apple Insider, and while he does editorialise, he only really gently exaggerates a few things here and there, and usually by omission.



    Try it yourself. Go through his articles either here or on his own site and try to disprove the things he says. While you might find a lot of slightly misleading stuff, he hardly ever directly lies or makes a mistake and overall the accuracy of his predictions is quite high. He also has a great historical insight and is able to "place" topics within that history so they are more understandable.



    People are fond of dumping on him, but if you check the facts the story looks a bit different. It's just that the average Internet troll or fandroid doesn't have the intellectual capacity, and isn't willing to spend the time to check the details out, they just scream "fanboy!" and run away.



    Writing detailed insightful articles and making sense is actually a lot harder than most trolls assume it is.
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  • Reply 144 of 282
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    Ein? If there are drivers yes, but this porting doesn't mean nothing about OMS or Tapas being Android or not.



    It would make it a separate os if you can't port any other Android system to a Tapas phone... wouldn't it?
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  • Reply 145 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post


    He has been caught in direct mistakes perhaps twice in the whole time he's been writing for Apple Insider, and while he does editorialise, he only really gently exaggerates a few things here and there, and usually by omission.





    Really? Only on this article there is a bunch of mistakes and omissions.
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  • Reply 146 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    It would make it a separate os if you can't port any other Android system to a Tapas phone... wouldn't it?



    No, it only means that you doesn't have all the drivers for this hardware
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  • Reply 147 of 282
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    No, it only means that you doesn't have all the drivers for this hardware



    Are you absolutely positive about this?
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  • Reply 148 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    Are you absolutely positive about this?



    Yes, you can port Android to HTC H2 or iPhone 3GS but it doesn't mean they are Android phones.



    You can't port now Android 2.3 to Galaxy S but it doesn't mean it's not Android
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  • Reply 149 of 282
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    Yes, you can port Android to HTC H2 or iPhone 3GS but it doesn't mean they are Android phones.



    You can't port now Android 2.3 to Galaxy S but it doesn't mean it's not Android



    Okay... so this really supports the fragmentation argument and backs up somewhat what Anonymouse is trying to say... without the Android/Google ecosystem these phones become less and less like Android phones and more like some other animal... regardless of the fact that they are android variants.



    At least that's how I see it... and I'm your typical iOS user... smart (I know that's in question but at least my iq is above average) but can't be bothered with all the technical wizardry.
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  • Reply 150 of 282
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    Yes, you can port Android to HTC H2 or iPhone 3GS but it doesn't mean they are Android phones.



    You can't port now Android 2.3 to Galaxy S but it doesn't mean it's not Android



    Interesting. Can you tell us exactly what makes a phone an Android phone?
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  • Reply 151 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    Interesting. Can you tell us exactly what makes a phone an Android phone?



    One which is sold with an Android OS?
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  • Reply 152 of 282
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    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    One which is sold with an Android OS?



    So not Tapas...
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  • Reply 153 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    At least that's how I see it... and I'm your typical iOS user... smart (I know that's in question but at least my iq is above average) but can't be bothered with all the technical wizardry.



    I haven't questioned intelligence of anyone. People who question intelligence for using some phone (Android, iOS, etc) defines themselves.



    Ah, my wife doesn't bother about technical wizardry and she has a Nexus One and hasn't spent time learning how to use it.
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  • Reply 154 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by island hermit View Post


    So not Tapas...



    Tapas is an Android variant.
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  • Reply 155 of 282
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    Originally Posted by graxspoo View Post


    Doesn't look appealing to me, but then, I think the iPad is dumb also. Who wants a laptop with no keyboard? Who wants a cellphone you can't fit in your pocket. Ok, all those iPad sales say I'm wrong. I guess people have more money than brains.



    Not at all. A lot of very smart folks get iPads for a number of reasons. All related to what it can do, rather than what it can't. The larger size, no requirement for a physical keyboard or pen are part of the appeal.



    Even tv has picked up the tablet game and more and more shows, especially crime stuff, are showing folks flipping through digital crime scene photo collections etc. And yes many are using iPads not faked out devices.



    The problem with many of these other boys is that they are designing based on what the iPad is not. It is not something that fits in the pocket, we'll make our small enough that it does. It is not supporting Flash, ours does (forget that mobile Flash rather sucks at the moment). It does not make phone call, well ours does. In the end those things don't win over the masses. Just as this new OS likely won't. Time will tell if it wins enough of the geeks etc to be a challenger in those worlds.
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  • Reply 156 of 282
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    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    Tapas is an Android variant.



    a fragmentation, if you will...



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  • Reply 157 of 282
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    One which is sold with an Android OS?



    So, you aren't sure?
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  • Reply 158 of 282
    gwydiongwydion Posts: 1,101member
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    Originally Posted by anonymouse View Post


    So, you aren't sure?



    I'm sure, the interrogation is a expression form only
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  • Reply 159 of 282
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    Originally Posted by jamrolu View Post


    I didn't say that. An iPhone user can't browse iTunes on the computer and have it automatically load to the phone. That was my point.



    What is the real difference between the Google way and just using the phone itself to buy stuff (without needing a computer at all). For most folks the difference is none.



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    You are right, but again, that's a different point altogether. The point the author made was about iTunes accounts and credit cards, not worldwide presence.



    so can I link my paypal to my Google account. Can I grab a gift card paid with cash at the grocery store and apply it to my Google account. On my device even. For much of the public this is a big deal cause they are paranoid about putting credit cards and bank links online
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  • Reply 160 of 282
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    Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post


    I'm sure, the interrogation is a expression form only



    I see. So, what defines an OS as an Android OS?
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