It (Apples iPad2) almost has to with an Cortex A9 derived SoC. Otherwise Apples investment in PA Semi and Intrisity won't be paying off. Not that I've ever thought that the designing of your own SoC is easy or even makes sense in this market.
Hopefully the performance jump is as big as was seem in the MBP. Actually a bigger jump would be better.
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
You are clearly ignorant.
iPads are being used for many different professional applications. I'll be getting an iPad2 because of a whole slew of reasons, but one of the main reasons is to use it as a remote control for my DAW (Logic).
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
I don't know why they didn't change their name from Apple Computer Inc to Apple Toy Co, Inc.
Did you type that on your Dell laptop, lol
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Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Certainly at the big family get-together at Christmas, while the kids/teenagers were glued to their Touches and iPads, with the exception of one woman, all the other adults had laptops and BlackBerries.
Weird Family.
In first class on the way back from Singapore to LA, 85%+ of the passengers had iPads. Did not see anyone pull out a laptop. They were all adults. Most of them even seemed to be doing pretty well for themselves.
You seem to not understand a couple of things:
1. Adults consume a lot more content than kids. (Not even close)
2. The iPad can be used for creating all kinds of content and it can do it well.
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Shades of 1984! You DO realize that that's how long ago they first used the term "toy" to describe a revolutionary Apple product? In that case, the product was the Macintosh.
I think you're making a classic mistake here in thinking that because *you* really want feature x, that of course everyone wants feature x.
The idea of attaching a wire to your mobile device so you can send signals over it to your TV set is just not something that the majority of folks care about. Of those that do, most are happier with the wireless option already provided. You're just thinking "old fashioned" here.
No actually he is looking to the future here. TB offers a real world alternative to slow USB ports which are already an alternative to wireless tech. Your position is a bit twisted as nobody really wants a completely wireless device. Wireless puts you at the mercy of the infrastructure.
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Just yesterday I had to work an event where people were presenting media with their iPads and there were no airplay devices available.
That was pretty stupid wasnt it? This is a perfect example of somebody adopting a new tech and then blaming somebody else when all the required hardware isn't at an event. It makes me wonder how many people where at this event assuming that all the facilities where there for wireless presentations. This want some Democratic convention of entitlement seakers was it?
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We had to use (shudder), wires and it was awful. You have a four inch dongle stuck to the bottom with a 15 foot VGA cable doing it's best to drag the dongle out of the 30 pin port. Then you need an audio plug jacked in the top that connects through a similar length of audio cable using an adapter at the projector end. You need both hands to hold the iPad, and have to keep the cables bunched up in the other hand to ensure they don't slip out.
Yep sounds exactly like a bunch of Democrats complaining about their missing entitlements.
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It's almost impossible to do any kind of walking presentation and the iPads ended up being taped to an old podium just to keep it manageable at all. As soon as there is an alternative, (and guess what there already is), wires are history.
For this sort of use that may be the case! What you seem to not realize is that wires are a very good solution to a number of communications issues. It's not that I'm reccomending a reduction in iPads automity but but rather that if such a device is to have a port it really needs to be fast. There is nothing wrong with wireless when the infrastructure is there as long as it is an alternative and not a replacement.
What gets me is that the Wintards still swear that Windows tablets will be more appealing and more useful to consumers than the iPad and I can't figure out why. Windows tablets have been around for a long time and they've never caught on with consumers. What has changed from 2009 (just before the iPad was introduced) until now. Current Windows tablets still use the same bloated desktop OS which requires much more hardware to run decently and returns a short battery life. Doesn't Windows have all that legacy code crap that Microsoft feels necessary to support that merely serves to slow down the OS? I doubt if corporations are even asking for legacy support on tablets. I'm sure tablet-using employees just want an OS that's easy to use and runs quickly and gives long battery life. Why would a consumer prefer a tablet that's heavier than the rest of the tablets that are on the market for the same display size? Why would consumers want to be running desktop Windows applications that aren't even optimized for tablets?
The Wintards still say that the iPad is a useless toy and yet it is definitely being deployed by small and larger businesses alike. So, how is it a useless toy? I do agree that there has to be some niche for Windows tablets for tech users or users that just like using Windows and require some portability. However, I think that would be only a very small number of users. I truly believe that light tablets will require a light and simplified OS to be favorable to consumers. Right now, ARM processors are the only way to go. Intel may eventually come out with some low-power processors or Microsoft will allow Windows to run on ARM processors. I'm willing to bet that Windows tablets will not sell in quantity to consumers in 2011.
No actually he is looking to the future here. TB offers a real world alternative to slow USB ports which are already an alternative to wireless tech. Your position is a bit twisted as nobody really wants a completely wireless device. Wireless puts you at the mercy of the infrastructure.
That was pretty stupid wasnt it? This is a perfect example of somebody adopting a new tech and then blaming somebody else when all the required hardware isn't at an event. It makes me wonder how many people where at this event assuming that all the facilities where there for wireless presentations. This want some Democratic convention of entitlement seakers was it?
Yep sounds exactly like a bunch of Democrats complaining about their missing entitlements.
For this sort of use that may be the case! What you seem to not realize is that wires are a very good solution to a number of communications issues. It's not that I'm reccomending a reduction in iPads automity but but rather that if such a device is to have a port it really needs to be fast. There is nothing wrong with wireless when the infrastructure is there as long as it is an alternative and not a replacement.
Hey Dave,
Good post!
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Certainly at the big family get-together at Christmas, while the kids/teenagers were glued to their Touches and iPads, with the exception of one woman, all the other adults had laptops and BlackBerries.
Wow. Just...wow.
You do realize Apple hasn't discontinued their macbooks, imac, mac minis, mac pros, etc etc.
Nobody is forcing you to buy the damn thing, but apparently tens of millions have, and tens of millions more will. But I guess Apple should say no to billions in sales and an insanely well received product because some angry nerds don't want a 'toy'.
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
Since your manners are so atrocious, you are either a child who has yet to learn any, or you are older but childlike in your ways. Either way, thanks for proving my point that iPad is mainly for children.
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Hopefully the performance jump is as big as was seem in the MBP. Actually a bigger jump would be better.
I cant wait.
all the other adults had laptops and BlackBerries.
Further cementing "dinosaur" status with their kids.
What's the surprise here?
Did any of the adults yell "get off my computing experience" too?
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
You are clearly ignorant.
iPads are being used for many different professional applications. I'll be getting an iPad2 because of a whole slew of reasons, but one of the main reasons is to use it as a remote control for my DAW (Logic).
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
Surprise! Your toy is ready early.
I don't know why they didn't change their name from Apple Computer Inc to Apple Toy Co, Inc.
Did you type that on your Dell laptop, lol
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Certainly at the big family get-together at Christmas, while the kids/teenagers were glued to their Touches and iPads, with the exception of one woman, all the other adults had laptops and BlackBerries.
Weird Family.
In first class on the way back from Singapore to LA, 85%+ of the passengers had iPads. Did not see anyone pull out a laptop. They were all adults. Most of them even seemed to be doing pretty well for themselves.
You seem to not understand a couple of things:
1. Adults consume a lot more content than kids. (Not even close)
2. The iPad can be used for creating all kinds of content and it can do it well.
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Shades of 1984! You DO realize that that's how long ago they first used the term "toy" to describe a revolutionary Apple product? In that case, the product was the Macintosh.
In the words of Bugs Bunny, "Eh, what a maroon".
I think you're making a classic mistake here in thinking that because *you* really want feature x, that of course everyone wants feature x.
The idea of attaching a wire to your mobile device so you can send signals over it to your TV set is just not something that the majority of folks care about. Of those that do, most are happier with the wireless option already provided. You're just thinking "old fashioned" here.
No actually he is looking to the future here. TB offers a real world alternative to slow USB ports which are already an alternative to wireless tech. Your position is a bit twisted as nobody really wants a completely wireless device. Wireless puts you at the mercy of the infrastructure.
Just yesterday I had to work an event where people were presenting media with their iPads and there were no airplay devices available.
That was pretty stupid wasnt it? This is a perfect example of somebody adopting a new tech and then blaming somebody else when all the required hardware isn't at an event. It makes me wonder how many people where at this event assuming that all the facilities where there for wireless presentations. This want some Democratic convention of entitlement seakers was it?
We had to use (shudder), wires and it was awful. You have a four inch dongle stuck to the bottom with a 15 foot VGA cable doing it's best to drag the dongle out of the 30 pin port. Then you need an audio plug jacked in the top that connects through a similar length of audio cable using an adapter at the projector end. You need both hands to hold the iPad, and have to keep the cables bunched up in the other hand to ensure they don't slip out.
Yep sounds exactly like a bunch of Democrats complaining about their missing entitlements.
It's almost impossible to do any kind of walking presentation and the iPads ended up being taped to an old podium just to keep it manageable at all. As soon as there is an alternative, (and guess what there already is), wires are history.
For this sort of use that may be the case! What you seem to not realize is that wires are a very good solution to a number of communications issues. It's not that I'm reccomending a reduction in iPads automity but but rather that if such a device is to have a port it really needs to be fast. There is nothing wrong with wireless when the infrastructure is there as long as it is an alternative and not a replacement.
Surprise! Your toy is ready early.
I don't know why they didn't change their name from Apple Computer Inc to Apple Toy Co, Inc.
This, from someone who calls themselves 'ascii'? Apparently 'DOS Rules' was already taken.
The Wintards still say that the iPad is a useless toy and yet it is definitely being deployed by small and larger businesses alike. So, how is it a useless toy? I do agree that there has to be some niche for Windows tablets for tech users or users that just like using Windows and require some portability. However, I think that would be only a very small number of users. I truly believe that light tablets will require a light and simplified OS to be favorable to consumers. Right now, ARM processors are the only way to go. Intel may eventually come out with some low-power processors or Microsoft will allow Windows to run on ARM processors. I'm willing to bet that Windows tablets will not sell in quantity to consumers in 2011.
No actually he is looking to the future here. TB offers a real world alternative to slow USB ports which are already an alternative to wireless tech. Your position is a bit twisted as nobody really wants a completely wireless device. Wireless puts you at the mercy of the infrastructure.
That was pretty stupid wasnt it? This is a perfect example of somebody adopting a new tech and then blaming somebody else when all the required hardware isn't at an event. It makes me wonder how many people where at this event assuming that all the facilities where there for wireless presentations. This want some Democratic convention of entitlement seakers was it?
Yep sounds exactly like a bunch of Democrats complaining about their missing entitlements.
For this sort of use that may be the case! What you seem to not realize is that wires are a very good solution to a number of communications issues. It's not that I'm reccomending a reduction in iPads automity but but rather that if such a device is to have a port it really needs to be fast. There is nothing wrong with wireless when the infrastructure is there as long as it is an alternative and not a replacement.
Hey Dave,
Good post!
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
If Motorola fails on Xoom, they'd rather have their name changed to McDonalds where customers are aplenty.
If I see that pink iPad case photo in one more AI article, I think I'm gonna puke.
Ditto
Grown ups create things, they don't spend all day consuming content and playing games. Since the iPad is primarily designed for the later, it is not for adults and therefore a toy.
Certainly at the big family get-together at Christmas, while the kids/teenagers were glued to their Touches and iPads, with the exception of one woman, all the other adults had laptops and BlackBerries.
Wow. Just...wow.
You do realize Apple hasn't discontinued their macbooks, imac, mac minis, mac pros, etc etc.
Nobody is forcing you to buy the damn thing, but apparently tens of millions have, and tens of millions more will. But I guess Apple should say no to billions in sales and an insanely well received product because some angry nerds don't want a 'toy'.
You're a moron.
Ditto
I want to see some more of those FUgly graph flowchart Keynote slides that show everything emanates from Apple (and BSD, QT, Integer BASIC, etc.).
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
Since your manners are so atrocious, you are either a child who has yet to learn any, or you are older but childlike in your ways. Either way, thanks for proving my point that iPad is mainly for children.
I predict iPad 2 will have Thunderbolt and that Apple eventually phases out the 30 pin connector. Let it be written, let it be done.
Isn't thunderbolt( I like lightpeak better) an intel controller? Would it have to be integrated with the ipad(not intel) chip set?