excuse me, but why the heck do these photos of a mockup iPad case continue to be considered a reliable predictor of the next-gen ipad? Anybody can whip up a prototype of what they THINK something will look like. These photos have been floating around for months, and nothing about them screams "legitimate leak."
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
Sorry I'm just reading this different, have to disagree about TB, ignoring the political gibberish that he added, his response to the original op didn't seem to jive. IMO light peak is more for highend uses and fast large file transfer(think hd movies)
For everyday uses(the original ops issue), like making presentations, airplay, wifi etc is much preferred. Yes it's not every where... Yet. Wires is so 'computing' yesterday.
Since your manners are so atrocious, you are either a child who has yet to learn any, or you are older but childlike in your ways. Either way, thanks for proving my point that iPad is mainly for children.
Yes for children with great common sense than a moronic adult like you.
Maybe your kid has been castigating you for not exercising common sense in buying a tech device. [double smiley]
Moral lesson: Just because you are an adult doesn't mean that the children can't teach you things you ought to already know as an adult.
iPads are being used for many different professional applications. I'll be getting an iPad2 because of a whole slew of reasons, but one of the main reasons is to use it as a remote control for my DAW (Logic).
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
Thunderbolt could very well turn out to be great or it could turn out to be the next firewire which has been dead for a while now. Its been dead to even Steve Jobs for a while now.
This is what I hope and would like to see as the multitasking implementation on the iPad rather than that stupid tray at the bottom. They're bringing iOS features to OSX but it's time to bring OSX features to iOS.
Thunderbolt could very well turn out to be great or it could turn out to be the next firewire which has been dead for a while now. Its been dead to even Steve Jobs for a while now.
I don?t think that is improbable. It?s backwards compatible with other protocols, it?s hella fast, it offers more power than USB (though not as much as FireWire), and the port interface is completely free.
The problem with FireWire was the excessive and ridiculous tariff Apple placed on the technology. That simply isn?t the case with Thunderbolt. It?s also copper which makes it much more cost effective and useful for cheaper electronics than optical would have been, not to mention the cost of having to use a convertor from optical to copper to attach devices that only have electtical-based connectors, regardless of the protocol used.
Someone on this forum mentioned a rumour that the USB-IF told Intel they could not use the USB port interface for Light Peak. If this is true I think it will cause an accelerated switch from USB to Thunderbolt while also pushing mDP over both DP and DVI connectors.
I've been using iPads on films & TV shoots since they came out. I've made sure most of the crew has them. I have my storyboard, script and shot list on it, as well as a feed (depending on the situation). Most of the costume, production design and continuity people have them. The DP's take notes on them. Etc., etc. I even finished a first draft of a recent novel on one. Oddly, I've never been able to do any of those things on my son's DSi, or his Wii or his XBox 360, etc.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
The iPad being a "toy" displaces a lot of high-end devices in the market. Isn't that amazing?
Wait till Apple "gets serious" and releases a device that's more than a toy. I guess it will displace not only devices, but people like you out of the work force.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
That is very unfair. Not being fundamental to your job doesn?t mean it isn?t useful for business for others. In fact, I know of a few teachers that have moved from the school?s computers to iPads for their presentations as it gives them a lot more control, even allowing them to interact with some elements in real time in 3D (though I?m not sure how). I know others that are waiting for the iWork updates that will allow them to untether from the VGA cable so they can stream wirelessly to the projector.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
There is nothing bad about the iPad being used for pleasure consumption (games, movies, news and mass media viewing, etc., etc.)
Are you concluding that just because you and the other poster you seem to be defending, fing the iPad simply a toy or a pleasure device, other people, organizations, institutions and companies cannot find productive, serious, and work-related uses for the iPad (and other tablets):
Restaurants are buying iPads to give their low-paid waiters/waitresses something to play with when there are no clients, and to give their customers something to play with while waiting for services.
Banks. car makers and other sales-oriented companies do not want their sales force to get bored and need a toy for consumption while on the field. or to entertain their customers and clients
Medical schools and other college and university departments are providing their students iPads as enticing fancy toy because they could not fill up their incoming student quota
The US Defense Department (as well as those in the UK) are creating toy Apps because soldiers get bored while on the field in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other areas of combats
More than 80% of the Top 100 Fortune companies are creating toy Apps specially for the iPad because they don't want their bored staff to use company computers while playing at work
Hospitals and other biomedical institutions are creating special entertainment Apps for the operating room because they don't want their surgeons to sleep while operating on patients, or they want their nurses, physicians and other medical staff to have something to distract themselves rather than listen to pathetic complaints of patients
Artists buy iPads just because they would rather play games, watch movies, read books, etc. than create digital arts
Many executives prefer to bring their iPad (instead of their laptop) during travels simply because they want nothing but pleasure and consumption while on trip
Other companies (Microsoft, Motorola, HP, Google and Android manufacturers, etc.) are investing so much time creating "iPad killers" because they finallly discovered a gadget that many people will buy simply for consumption, and love toy products.
I could go on with more examples, of how people, companies, organizations, institutions buy the iPad because the iPad is indeed a toy. and for the first time more than 15 million bought IPads because they finally found a toy that they can enjoy or entertain their staff. And, they just got tired of their iPhones, iPods and iPod touch as toys coming from the "Apple Toy Company".
About right? Or, if you want to be more informed just go out in the field, talk to people, read papers, magazines including in the biomedical field to find what people do with their iPad, instead of viewing the world from your cubicle/office in IBM.
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram
Perhaps that is an IBM issue rather than an iPad issue.
That's not exactly accurate, IBM is one of the companies trying the IPhone and the IPad, for use in the company. I doubt a tech company, as serious as IBM would even spend time doing so, if indeed as extremeskater suggested, that there is nothing in IBM that can use the iPad.
I am sure even a stodgy IBM executive would know that it is not practical to bring one of their main computers (like the Jeopardy winner) when their salesforce meet with clients. And, a savvy sales person would know that it is easier to use a tablet to provide impromptu "show and tell" to prospective clients,
All those "iPad killer" manufacturers suddenly found the potential of tablets, after Apple showed them the way -- and they want to have a piece of the pie.
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Originally Posted by ascii
Ahh.. a cartoon reference. Another guy proving my point
And how do you think other people infer of you, from your responses? The sage of the Apple Insider forum, perhaps?
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
Mmmm... either you or your employer are on the wrong page...
IBM Supports Enterprise iPad Adoption with Lotus Notes Traveler for iPad
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
I already pointed out how I get lots of work done, as do others on my shoots. It's all across the industry.
Details get on the way of a black and white view of the world, when one can make "conclusions"and "deep insights" simply from personal experience.
"If it does not work for me, why would others have any use for it?" Quite more logical, ain't it? And, it is definitely faster to sum up things.
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Originally Posted by ascii
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
And being the serious person that you are, you have done extensive study on this? Visited sites, talked to people, etc., since the IPad came out? Travelled to other parts of the world to see how other cultures are using the iPad?
In all seriousness, you being the only serious person here, why so much fuzz by all those companies placing so much money, and resources, trying to create tablets, after the iPad came out?
Did all those companies suddenly have a collective epiphany:
"Yeah, creating more toys is the future of our company!"
Just for the record, it is only you who seem to think that a device can either be "serious" or a "toy". What a great discovery.
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Further cementing "dinosaur" status with their kids.
Yes, I guess hard work is old fashioned these days. I take it you are thoroughly modern?
In the words of Bugs Bunny, "Eh, what a maroon".
Ahh.. a cartoon reference. Another guy proving my point.
Hey Dave,
Good post!
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
Sorry I'm just reading this different, have to disagree about TB, ignoring the political gibberish that he added, his response to the original op didn't seem to jive. IMO light peak is more for highend uses and fast large file transfer(think hd movies)
For everyday uses(the original ops issue), like making presentations, airplay, wifi etc is much preferred. Yes it's not every where... Yet. Wires is so 'computing' yesterday.
Ahh.. a cartoon reference. Another guy proving my point.
Well, your response proved everyone elses... You're hilarious, keep posting, its a nice break from the serious posts.
Since your manners are so atrocious, you are either a child who has yet to learn any, or you are older but childlike in your ways. Either way, thanks for proving my point that iPad is mainly for children.
Yes for children with great common sense than a moronic adult like you.
Maybe your kid has been castigating you for not exercising common sense in buying a tech device. [double smiley]
Moral lesson: Just because you are an adult doesn't mean that the children can't teach you things you ought to already know as an adult.
You are clearly ignorant.
iPads are being used for many different professional applications. I'll be getting an iPad2 because of a whole slew of reasons, but one of the main reasons is to use it as a remote control for my DAW (Logic).
I already own various Mac desktops and Mac laptops. The iPad is in a different category. Good luck with your shortsightedness, your ignorance and your general cluelessness.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
Hey Dave,
Good post!
We may have a situation where the stars are aligned and Apple can leapfrog technology (hardware and software) and deliver the solution that dominates te next decade of information access -- "computing" is so last century,
Seriously, TB, iOS and iPad are wha's happenin' baby!
Thunderbolt could very well turn out to be great or it could turn out to be the next firewire which has been dead for a while now. Its been dead to even Steve Jobs for a while now.
Thunderbolt could very well turn out to be great or it could turn out to be the next firewire which has been dead for a while now. Its been dead to even Steve Jobs for a while now.
I don?t think that is improbable. It?s backwards compatible with other protocols, it?s hella fast, it offers more power than USB (though not as much as FireWire), and the port interface is completely free.
The problem with FireWire was the excessive and ridiculous tariff Apple placed on the technology. That simply isn?t the case with Thunderbolt. It?s also copper which makes it much more cost effective and useful for cheaper electronics than optical would have been, not to mention the cost of having to use a convertor from optical to copper to attach devices that only have electtical-based connectors, regardless of the protocol used.
Someone on this forum mentioned a rumour that the USB-IF told Intel they could not use the USB port interface for Light Peak. If this is true I think it will cause an accelerated switch from USB to Thunderbolt while also pushing mDP over both DP and DVI connectors.
For me, it's hardly a toy.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
The iPad being a "toy" displaces a lot of high-end devices in the market. Isn't that amazing?
Wait till Apple "gets serious" and releases a device that's more than a toy. I guess it will displace not only devices, but people like you out of the work force.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
That is very unfair. Not being fundamental to your job doesn?t mean it isn?t useful for business for others. In fact, I know of a few teachers that have moved from the school?s computers to iPads for their presentations as it gives them a lot more control, even allowing them to interact with some elements in real time in 3D (though I?m not sure how). I know others that are waiting for the iWork updates that will allow them to untether from the VGA cable so they can stream wirelessly to the projector.
Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad.
Perhaps that is an IBM issue rather than an iPad issue.
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
There is nothing bad about the iPad being used for pleasure consumption (games, movies, news and mass media viewing, etc., etc.)
Are you concluding that just because you and the other poster you seem to be defending, fing the iPad simply a toy or a pleasure device, other people, organizations, institutions and companies cannot find productive, serious, and work-related uses for the iPad (and other tablets):
- Restaurants are buying iPads to give their low-paid waiters/waitresses something to play with when there are no clients, and to give their customers something to play with while waiting for services.
- Banks. car makers and other sales-oriented companies do not want their sales force to get bored and need a toy for consumption while on the field. or to entertain their customers and clients
- Medical schools and other college and university departments are providing their students iPads as enticing fancy toy because they could not fill up their incoming student quota
- The US Defense Department (as well as those in the UK) are creating toy Apps because soldiers get bored while on the field in Iraq, Afghanistan, and other areas of combats
- More than 80% of the Top 100 Fortune companies are creating toy Apps specially for the iPad because they don't want their bored staff to use company computers while playing at work
- Hospitals and other biomedical institutions are creating special entertainment Apps for the operating room because they don't want their surgeons to sleep while operating on patients, or they want their nurses, physicians and other medical staff to have something to distract themselves rather than listen to pathetic complaints of patients
- Artists buy iPads just because they would rather play games, watch movies, read books, etc. than create digital arts
- Many executives prefer to bring their iPad (instead of their laptop) during travels simply because they want nothing but pleasure and consumption while on trip
- Other companies (Microsoft, Motorola, HP, Google and Android manufacturers, etc.) are investing so much time creating "iPad killers" because they finallly discovered a gadget that many people will buy simply for consumption, and love toy products.
I could go on with more examples, of how people, companies, organizations, institutions buy the iPad because the iPad is indeed a toy. and for the first time more than 15 million bought IPads because they finally found a toy that they can enjoy or entertain their staff. And, they just got tired of their iPhones, iPods and iPod touch as toys coming from the "Apple Toy Company".About right? Or, if you want to be more informed just go out in the field, talk to people, read papers, magazines including in the biomedical field to find what people do with their iPad, instead of viewing the world from your cubicle/office in IBM.
Perhaps that is an IBM issue rather than an iPad issue.
That's not exactly accurate, IBM is one of the companies trying the IPhone and the IPad, for use in the company. I doubt a tech company, as serious as IBM would even spend time doing so, if indeed as extremeskater suggested, that there is nothing in IBM that can use the iPad.
I am sure even a stodgy IBM executive would know that it is not practical to bring one of their main computers (like the Jeopardy winner) when their salesforce meet with clients. And, a savvy sales person would know that it is easier to use a tablet to provide impromptu "show and tell" to prospective clients,
All those "iPad killer" manufacturers suddenly found the potential of tablets, after Apple showed them the way -- and they want to have a piece of the pie.
Originally Posted by ascii
Ahh.. a cartoon reference. Another guy proving my point
And how do you think other people infer of you, from your responses? The sage of the Apple Insider forum, perhaps?
CGC
I remember the late 1950s-1960s... Mainframe computers replaced legacy accounting machines. manual accounting systems.
I remember the late 1960s-1970s... Mini computers replaced legacy mainframe computers,
I remember the late 1970s-1980s... Personal computers replaced legacy mini computers,
I remember 2010-2011... iPads replaced legacy personal computers,
We still have legacy systems as vestiges of the past -- likely, we always will.
But the center of action has shifted -- the next several years belong to the iPad (and anything that can compete).
You can, resist, joke, demean them, call them toys... that's all happened before. by those with an investment in the status quo.
It ain't gonna' matter -- you can't harness the future -- only try to to keep pace...
Who amongst us doesn't know this -- Google, Sammy. Toshiba, Moto. RIM. MSFT, HP, LG. IBM, Adobe, Autodesk, Citrix...
Apple knows, & you and I know, too...
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I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
I have an iPad, I work for IBM. While I love my iPad make no mistake its a toy. Ther isn't any critical work I do at my job that can be done on my iPad. There is nothing wrong with a product being for pleasure.
Mmmm... either you or your employer are on the wrong page...
IBM Supports Enterprise iPad Adoption with Lotus Notes Traveler for iPad
http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterpri...r-for-ipad.php
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
I already pointed out how I get lots of work done, as do others on my shoots. It's all across the industry.
Mmmm... either you or your employer are on the wrong page...
IBM Supports Enterprise iPad Adoption with Lotus Notes Traveler for iPad
http://www.readwriteweb.com/enterpri...r-for-ipad.php
Details get on the way of a black and white view of the world, when one can make "conclusions"and "deep insights" simply from personal experience.
"If it does not work for me, why would others have any use for it?" Quite more logical, ain't it? And, it is definitely faster to sum up things.
Originally Posted by ascii
Thank you. I wonder how many people here who insist the iPad is a professional tool have actually tried to get work done on one. I grant there could be a few niches (such as education) but to call it a professional tool *in general* would be grossly misleading. In general it's a media consumption/light gaming device (which to any serious person means a toy).
And being the serious person that you are, you have done extensive study on this? Visited sites, talked to people, etc., since the IPad came out? Travelled to other parts of the world to see how other cultures are using the iPad?
In all seriousness, you being the only serious person here, why so much fuzz by all those companies placing so much money, and resources, trying to create tablets, after the iPad came out?
Did all those companies suddenly have a collective epiphany:
"Yeah, creating more toys is the future of our company!"
Just for the record, it is only you who seem to think that a device can either be "serious" or a "toy". What a great discovery.
CGC